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  • #31
    Re: Why war on Christmass?

    I've got a book. Not the Bible.
    It was dictated by God using human scribes.
    And it God told me it is correct.
    And this book, it says you people are
    wrong. Completely wrong. It makes
    clear how the Bible is a holy book, which
    must be correctly interpreted, but
    can only be correctly read by smart
    people. The proof of this are the many
    contradictions. These are not 'heretic'
    traps, as you call them. God is perfect.
    He made everything.
    Read the book. It's called 'The knowledge book'.
    Unlike the Bible, it is straightforward in it's
    message, thus to avoid any more
    confusion.
    For your information, I did not betray Jesus. He requested it. Jesus said to me once: "Tolerance is everything. Remember this." To stop all this confusion, Jesus is NOT the son of God. He himself never EVER said this. He was just simply a very smart man. Live with it. "Women stand above men," as quoted by Jesus when he spoke to me in private, "because God gave them the power to give life."

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    • #32
      Re: Why war on Christmass?

      Originally posted by JudasReborn View Post
      I've got a book. Not the Bible. It was dictated by God using human scribes. And it God told me it is correct.
      And this book, it says you people are wrong. Completely wrong. It makes
      clear how the Bible is a holy book, which must be correctly interpreted, but
      can only be correctly read by smart people. The proof of this are the many
      contradictions. These are not 'heretic' traps, as you call them. God is perfect.
      He made everything. Read the book. It's called 'The knowledge book'.
      Unlike the Bible, it is straightforward in it's message, thus to avoid any more confusion.
      Friend, it sounds to me as though Satan has been speaking to you. Do not be deceived.
      O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



      God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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      • #33
        Re: Why war on Christmass?

        Originally posted by holymaster019 View Post
        too bad the movie wasnt shown on the news, but on the discovery channel.
        Not the movie, fool.
        The "discovery" itself was shown on the news.
        That oughta be as good, better even, as it hadn't been spun yet.
        Several scholars at the site said, almost immediately, that it was most likely NOT Jesus grave:
        Just a grave as any other.

        The only one who really claims that it MUST be Jesus grave (which it of course isn't) is a movie producer..

        and i never said id believe a person who claims he had a camera 2000 years ago...because a camera didnt exist. so yeah...thats dumb for you to even say that. thank you for proving how educated you really are.
        No, that's actually EXACTLY what you said..!
        Originally posted by You
        not an eye witness account from a thousand years ago saying he saw jesus walk on water. if he had a picture of it or a film on it, then yeah, itd be believeable.
        and how did i contradict myself with alexander the great?
        This is how you contradicted yourself:
        Originally posted by You
        yeah...eye witness accounts two thousand years ago, and for the old testament, even more thousands of years ago. not credible AT ALL!
        You claimed the eye-witness accounts of the Bible are unreliable due to their age. (about 2000 for the NT, and even more for the OT)

        You do not doubt the eyewitness-accounts of Alexander the Great however. BUT ALEXANDER LIVED 356BC - 323BC!
        Hello? That is well BEFORE the new testament, infact it is more than 300years before Jesus was born on this earth!

        THAT's how you are a complete - 100% no cut - HYPOCRITE!

        stop talking about him, we're talking about jesus right now, not a greek warrior.
        Then why do you not mind us talking about starwing jews?
        Because you know you just made a fool out of yourself.. that's why.

        however, pictures of jews starving in a camp arent photoshopped man. so really, youre either saying that YOU deny the holocaust, and think that its an overstatement when its said that 6 million jews lost their lives in camps.
        I'm saying exactly what I'm saying, because unlike you:
        I'm not in the habit of twisting the meaning of plain words.

        And what I'm saying is: Pictures can be faked.
        And that it's not the pictures that prove the holocaust, but the EYE-WITNESS ACCOUNTS.

        yeah, it could be a false statistic, but still, its pretty dang close considering how many missing people never showed up and considering the AMOUNT of camps were established during hitler's reign.

        im waiting for your rebuttal friend.
        You do know there was a war on, right?
        And you do know that people go missing during.. uhm, war?
        As for camps, no. All that remains is buildings that could have been used for many different purposes.

        The real evidence of the holocaust are those who were there to see it, the EYE-WITNESSES.
        You accept their eye-witness accounts, you accept the eye-witness accounts of Alexander..
        AND YET YOU DO NOT ACCEPT THE EYE-WITNESS ACCOUNTS OF JESUS.
        And that's how you are a hypocrite.

        And why do you refuse to accept those eyewitness accounts?
        Because you've made up your mind that Jesus doesn't exist, or isn't God, already!
        That's ALL there is to it. You don't reject Jesus Christ out of "reason" or "logic" or some such:
        You reject Him out of your own personal non-reasonable, non-logical belief!
        If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: But if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it.
        A foolish woman is clamorous: She is simple, and knoweth nothing.
        Proverbs 9:12-13

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        • #34
          Re: Why war on Christmass?

          Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
          Friend, it sounds to me as though Satan has been speaking to you. Do not be deceived.
          If satan says things to me like "love one another", "be a kind and hlepful person", "don't kill other people", "tolerate each other's diffirences" and
          "believe in God", than I'd be happy to join him. But I do not even
          believe in the existance of Satan, so what's the point?
          For your information, I did not betray Jesus. He requested it. Jesus said to me once: "Tolerance is everything. Remember this." To stop all this confusion, Jesus is NOT the son of God. He himself never EVER said this. He was just simply a very smart man. Live with it. "Women stand above men," as quoted by Jesus when he spoke to me in private, "because God gave them the power to give life."

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          • #35
            Re: Why war on Christmass?

            Originally posted by JudasReborn View Post
            If satan says things to me like "love one another", "be a kind and hlepful person", "don't kill other people", "tolerate each other's diffirences" and
            "believe in God", than I'd be happy to join him. But I do not even
            believe in the existance of Satan, so what's the point?
            Well, there you have it: you'd choose Satan's message over God. Anything you say from now on is invalid, Satanist.
            O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



            God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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            • #36
              Re: Why war on Christmass?

              I say 'would' not 'do'. And Satan refuses to say
              these things, so good friend, I am no Satanist.
              Your lunatic counter-arguements don't convince me.
              Lol, kan't you people see it? Under this so called
              'truth' of yours, you're just a bunch of republikan,
              intolerant, naive, mormons.
              For your information, I did not betray Jesus. He requested it. Jesus said to me once: "Tolerance is everything. Remember this." To stop all this confusion, Jesus is NOT the son of God. He himself never EVER said this. He was just simply a very smart man. Live with it. "Women stand above men," as quoted by Jesus when he spoke to me in private, "because God gave them the power to give life."

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              • #37
                Re: Why war on Christmass?

                Originally posted by JudasReborn View Post
                And Satan refuses to say these things
                I challenge you to back this nonsense up with scripture.
                Satan will say almost whatever to ensnare you and lead you to eternal damnation.
                If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: But if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it.
                A foolish woman is clamorous: She is simple, and knoweth nothing.
                Proverbs 9:12-13

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                • #38
                  Re: Why war on Christmass?

                  How can Satan lead you to damnation if he says to do
                  good things? So you're saying Satan could say the EXACT same as
                  God, and if you follow that, you go to hell?
                  Ohhhh, the logic...

                  P.S. lol, good one. -> You're one too though.
                  For your information, I did not betray Jesus. He requested it. Jesus said to me once: "Tolerance is everything. Remember this." To stop all this confusion, Jesus is NOT the son of God. He himself never EVER said this. He was just simply a very smart man. Live with it. "Women stand above men," as quoted by Jesus when he spoke to me in private, "because God gave them the power to give life."

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                  • #39
                    Re: Why war on Christmass?

                    Originally posted by JudasReborn View Post
                    How can Satan lead you to damnation if he says to do
                    good things?
                    And just what exactly is a good thing?
                    That is not for us humans to know, and that's why you need the Bible to tell you what's good and evil.

                    Without God, one can NEVER be good. (Psalm 14:1)

                    So you're saying Satan could say the EXACT same as
                    God, and if you follow that, you go to hell?
                    Ohhhh, the logic...
                    Of course not, fool!
                    Satan CAN'T say exactly the same things as God, but almost the same however, yes.
                    Satan created Islam for instance, and they sure believe in "God" (although a false one) exactly like you.

                    Cause the things you CLAIM God says to you - simply isn't what God says.
                    Thus, it's satan (or you yourself) talking. So the flawed logic here is yours...
                    If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: But if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it.
                    A foolish woman is clamorous: She is simple, and knoweth nothing.
                    Proverbs 9:12-13

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                    • #40
                      Re: Why war on Christmass?

                      Originally posted by superfly999 View Post
                      yes...we're arguing with Him, and YOU! and seriously, REPEL his argument. tell us we're wrong that christmas day isnt the real day of his birth. if you knew ANYTHING, jesus' real birth was around halloween actually, and i can just IMAGINE what you guys think of halloween.
                      YOU ARE WRONG!

                      PRAISE THE LORD!!!

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                      • #41
                        Re: Why war on Christmass?

                        Salvation, how do you know so sure that the God that
                        speaks to you IS the real one?
                        How are you so sure that the Bible IS God's book?
                        How are you so sure that the Bible isn't one of Satan's
                        traps? (and a very popular one at that)
                        HOW?
                        And since we're questioning the Bible, you can't use it
                        to back you up. Since we're questioning if your God is
                        or isn't Satan, you can't use him either. What is there left
                        you could possibly back you up with?
                        For your information, I did not betray Jesus. He requested it. Jesus said to me once: "Tolerance is everything. Remember this." To stop all this confusion, Jesus is NOT the son of God. He himself never EVER said this. He was just simply a very smart man. Live with it. "Women stand above men," as quoted by Jesus when he spoke to me in private, "because God gave them the power to give life."

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                        • #42
                          Re: Why war on Christmass?

                          Originally posted by JudasReborn View Post
                          Salvation, how do you know so sure that the God that
                          speaks to you IS the real one?
                          How are you so sure that the Bible IS God's book?
                          How are you so sure that the Bible isn't one of Satan's
                          traps? (and a very popular one at that)
                          HOW?
                          And since we're questioning the Bible, you can't use it
                          to back you up. Since we're questioning if your God is
                          or isn't Satan, you can't use him either. What is there left
                          you could possibly back you up with?
                          You silly boy, you finally understood.

                          If there was no GOD to back you up, if there was no KJV BIBLE for you to use, there would be NOTHING!

                          That's why you're so empty and bitter.

                          Accept JESUS as YOUR SAVIOUR, you don't have to feel like that.

                          I PRAY THAT JESUS GUIDES AND PROTECTS YOU!

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                          • #43
                            Re: Why war on Christmass?

                            Originally posted by JudasReborn View Post
                            I say 'would' not 'do'. And Satan refuses to say these things, so good friend, I am no Satanist.
                            You "don't kill other people" gave as an example of something Satan might say that you'd agree with. That is exactly what Satan's shock troops, the Quakers, say, so Satan does at least indirectly say some of those things.
                            Your lunatic counter-arguements don't convince me.
                            Lol, kan't you people see it? Under this so called
                            'truth' of yours, you're just a bunch of republikan,
                            intolerant, naive, mormons.
                            Do you really think calling us Republicans and intolerant will offend or shock us? We have never denied being Republican.
                            Originally posted by JudasReborn View Post
                            How can Satan lead you to damnation if he says to do good things?
                            Friend, if God tells you not to tolerate other people but to kill them instead, and Satan says to tolerate and not kill them, that most certainly would not be a good thing.

                            Originally posted by JudasReborn View Post
                            Salvation, how do you know so sure that the God that speaks to you IS the real one?
                            How are you so sure that the Bible IS God's book?
                            How are you so sure that the Bible isn't one of Satan's
                            traps? (and a very popular one at that) HOW?
                            And since we're questioning the Bible, you can't use it to back you up. Since we're questioning if your God is or isn't Satan, you can't use him either. What is there left you could possibly back you up with?
                            God. He is infinite, so we can't leave Him out of the argument. He wouldn't let Satan run around fooling good Christians.
                            O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



                            God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Why war on Christmass?

                              Blah, blah, blah.
                              For your information, I did not betray Jesus. He requested it. Jesus said to me once: "Tolerance is everything. Remember this." To stop all this confusion, Jesus is NOT the son of God. He himself never EVER said this. He was just simply a very smart man. Live with it. "Women stand above men," as quoted by Jesus when he spoke to me in private, "because God gave them the power to give life."

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                              • #45
                                Re: Why war on Christmass?

                                Originally posted by JudasReborn View Post
                                Blah, blah, blah.
                                agreed. you're reasoning is a bunch of right wing jibbery joo

                                *waits for the liberal and fag insults*

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