[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: Persecuting Christians is Part of the War on Christmas.

My thoughts lean towards Obama and 'Big Negro' using this suspicious death of a mildly famous black man to inculcate our youth into thinking of an avuncular Nigra at Christmas time as being socially acceptable.

Clearly this is a plot to topple Jesus from His place at Christmas time.

Big Negro is getting more and more dominant in America and I don't doubt that Obama would not stop at nothing, even killing one of his lieutenants (Mandala) to achieve his aim of persecuting decent Republican Christians unto death.

You know, when you think about it, the Mandela people are so insensitive. It would not have hurt them on bit to have tossed Mandela in a freezer and announced his death after the Holy Christmas Day. Nothing would not have changed in their greiving and would have allowed us to celebrete our Christmas traditions.

We Christians just have to put up with so much, sometimes it's discouraging.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Persecuting Christians is Part of the War on Christmas.

I hate to be one of those conspiracy theorists, but I'm really suspicious of Nelson Mandela's death. That is, why did it happen, or, why was it announced just before Christmas?

It's clear he was not a Christian and since they chose to announce his death and dominate all news coverage with his funeral, there is no news about the birth of baby Jesus.

Some Christian leaders are trying to put forward news releases about Mandela's love of Communism and other Jesus hating things he did and said, but mostly they are talking to themselves.

Call me a crank or an odd ball, but I am convinced Mandela's death is part of the war on Christmas and the persecution of Christians.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/ne...stians-110395/

My thoughts lean towards Obama and 'Big Negro' using this suspicious death of a mildly famous black man to inculcate our youth into thinking of an avuncular Nigra at Christmas time as being socially acceptable.

Clearly this is a plot to topple Jesus from His place at Christmas time.

Big Negro is getting more and more dominant in America and I don't doubt that Obama would not stop at nothing, even killing one of his lieutenants (Mandala) to achieve his aim of persecuting decent Republican Christians unto death.

YIC

[Mark L. Snyde, PhD]

Re: Persecuting Christians is Part of the War on Christmas.

I hate to be one of those conspiracy theorists, but I'm really suspicious of Nelson Mandela's death. That is, why did it happen, or, why was it announced just before Christmas?

It's clear he was not a Christian and since they chose to announce his death and dominate all news coverage with his funeral, there is no news about the birth of baby Jesus.

Some Christian leaders are trying to put forward news releases about Mandela's love of Communism and other Jesus hating things he did and said, but mostly they are talking to themselves.

Call me a crank or an odd ball, but I am convinced Mandela's death is part of the war on Christmas and the persecution of Christians.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/ne...stians-110395/

What God-hating heathens would flippantly call a whacko conspiracy theory, I see as a very shrewd observation, Mr. Mayor.

I thank God for people like you with both the brains and the stones to call a spade a spade.

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: Persecuting Christians is Part of the War on Christmas.

I hate to be one of those conspiracy theorists, but I'm really suspicious of Nelson Mandela's death. That is, why did it happen, or, why was it announced just before Christmas?

It's clear he was not a Christian and since they chose to announce his death and dominate all news coverage with his funeral, there is no news about the birth of baby Jesus.

Some Christian leaders are trying to put forward news releases about Mandela's love of Communism and other Jesus hating things he did and said, but mostly they are talking to themselves.

Call me a crank or an odd ball, but I am convinced Mandela's death is part of the war on Christmas and the persecution of Christians.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/nelson-mandela-worth-commending-despite-ideological-differences-say-evangelical-and-conservative-christians-110395/

[Thomas Taylor]

Re: Persecuting Christians is Part of the War on Christmas.

Ah, here we have some reason. The problem that Saudi Arabia faces is that it has virtually NOTHING beyond oil extraction and selling it. Even the refining is mostly done in the buyer countries. A country without any real industry that produces anything of importance, like machinery, chemicals, cars or high tech goods to a relevant degree (relevant means more like the backbone of an economy, not some example here and there) is no developed country.

Whinger, Having worked in the petrochemical industry in the middle east for over 20 years, much of it in Saudi Arabia, I can categorically state that your statement is categorically wrong.

Just do a search and you will find an absolute plethora of downstream products which are produced in Saudi Arabia. Then there are steel plants and mills plus quite a few other heavy industries.

Please get your facts straight before you comment on a country about which you know absolutely nothing.

Now, on to more important things. Why do you hate God and Jesus so much that you spit in His face.

[Basilissa]

Re: Persecuting Christians is Part of the War on Christmas.

Ok, you got me there :-).

Well, the reason is that Europe had a pretty strong economy for a considerable amount of time, while not being united under one banner. Today we have got the Eurpoean Union, which still is no country of its own. Result: A lot of countries, none very big like the USA, but all very wealthy.

I'm guessing you haven't heard any news from Spain lately.

Ah, here we have some reason. The problem that Saudi Arabia faces is that it has virtually NOTHING beyond oil extraction and selling it.Even the refining is mostly done in the buyer countries. A country without any real industry that produces anything of importance, like machinery, chemicals, cars or high tech goods to a relevant degree (relevant means more like the backbone of an economy, not some example here and there) is no developed country.

I think you just relegated the Godly US to the status of a developing country (all you can find in stores here is made in China or Indonesia, even our cars are actually made in Mexico).

[winstonthewhiner]

Re: Persecuting Christians is Part of the War on Christmas.

We don't need a good education system because all the geniuses from the third world who got their education for free, end up working for us

Ok, you got me there :-).

Also, I did say that the list was a bit off.

Well, the reason is that Europe had a pretty strong economy for a considerable amount of time, while not being united under one banner. Today we have got the Eurpoean Union, which still is no country of its own. Result: A lot of countries, none very big like the USA, but all very wealthy. Any current list of developed countries will naturally encompass a lot of European countries. Nevertheless there is no excuse for your confusion.

Did you check under the "criticism" section?

We can go through it:

It assumes a desire to ‘develop’ along the traditional 'Western' model of economic development

All very nice, but it doesn't provide any reason to see Saudi Arabia as a developed country

The term 'developing' implies mobility and does not acknowledge that development may be in decline or static in some countries, particularly in southern African states worst affected by HIV/AIDS

Same here.

In general, development entails a modern infrastructure (both physical and institutional), and a move away from low value added sectors such as agriculture and natural resource extraction. Developed countries, in comparison, usually have economic systems based on continuous, self-sustaining economic growth in the tertiary sector of the economy and quaternary sector of the economy and high material standards of living. However, there are notable exceptions, as some countries considered developed have a significant component of primary industries in their national economies, e.g., Norway, Canada, Australia. The USA and Western Europe have a very important agricultural sector, and are major players in international agricultural markets. Also, natural resource extraction can be a very profitable industry (high value added), e.g., oil extraction.

Ah, here we have some reason. The problem that Saudi Arabia faces is that it has virtually NOTHING beyond oil extraction and selling it. Even the refining is mostly done in the buyer countries. A country without any real industry that produces anything of importance, like machinery, chemicals, cars or high tech goods to a relevant degree (relevant means more like the backbone of an economy, not some example here and there) is no developed country.

[Basilissa]

Re: Persecuting Christians is Part of the War on Christmas.

Oh, honey. If you are from the USA, this is a sad proof of the declining standards in the education system.

We don't need a good education system because all the geniuses from the third world who got their education for free, end up working for us We are awesome!

Also, I did say that the list was a bit off.

And yes, the criteria vary a bit, but if you look here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developing_country

and here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_country

Did you check under the "criticism" section?

[winstonthewhiner]

Re: Persecuting Christians is Part of the War on Christmas.

Sweetie, this is not a list of developed countries but a list of countries in Europe

Australia ... Canada ... Hong Kong ... Israel ... Japan ... New Zealand ... Singapore ... South Korea ... Taiwan ... United States

Oh, honey. If you are from the USA, this is a sad proof of the declining standards in the education system. And yes, the criteria vary a bit, but if you look here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developing_country

and here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_country

I am afraid you will find Saudi Arabia among the developing and not the developed countries and all of the developed countries to be stable democracies, granting religious freedom, which means Mr. Taylor and you should check
a) a wikipedia on the definition of developed vs developing country
b) the CIA homepage for a comprehensive list of which countries belong into which category
c) a world map to find out which countries are on which continent

[Basilissa]

Re: Persecuting Christians is Part of the War on Christmas.

here is a list of advanced economies: Australia Austria Belgium Canada Cyprus Czech Republic Denmark Estonia Finland France Germany Greece Hong Kong Iceland Ireland Israel Italy Japan Luxembourg Malta Netherlands New Zealand Norway Portugal San Marino Singapore Slovakia Slovenia South Korea Spain Sweden Switzerland Taiwan United Kingdom United States

Sweetie, this is not a list of developed countries but a list of countries in Europe (and it is a little bit off in this respect, too). If you really read that wickedpoedia link you provided, you will realize that there isn't really a one uniform list of developed countries, because the list depends on the criteria you use.

[winstonthewhiner]

Re: Persecuting Christians is Part of the War on Christmas.

Saudi Arabia. This is niether a first world or third world country, rather, it is a newly industrialsed country. The term Third World is often applied due to the mental development of the Saudi nationals.

Now, whiner, stick that in your crack pipe and smoke it!

here is a list of advanced economies: Australia Austria Belgium Canada Cyprus Czech Republic Denmark Estonia Finland France Germany Greece Hong Kong Iceland Ireland Israel Italy Japan Luxembourg Malta Netherlands New Zealand Norway Portugal San Marino Singapore Slovakia Slovenia South Korea Spain Sweden Switzerland Taiwan United Kingdom United States from here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_country Now, there is one candidate on the list that is only partly free, namely Singapore. And if you look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom...n_in_Singapore You will see that you can exercise your religion freely as long as you are not a total nutbag. Now, your precious example Saudi Arabia: They don't count as an industrialized country because they don't have any noteworthy industry. (That may be true for god's own country, too, but a t least there are some high tech branches). Saudi Arabia is living on its oil exports. Don't get me wrong, they are pretty rich, but not because their outstanding craftsmanship or technical knowhow. They are rich because the lord decided to give the oil actual real economies depend on to the Arabs. Now how does that make you feel?

[Thomas Taylor]

Re: Persecuting Christians is Part of the War on Christmas.

Name one that does. Industrialised countries are stable democracies which grant freedom of religion. No persecution.

Saudi Arabia. This is niether a first world or third world country, rather, it is a newly industrialsed country. The term Third World is often applied due to the mental development of the Saudi nationals.

Now, whiner, stick that in your crack pipe and smoke it!

[winstonthewhiner]

Re: Persecuting Christians is Part of the War on Christmas.

Ahem!!. No, they don't.

Name one that does. Industrialised countries are stable democracies which grant freedom of religion. No persecution.

[Thomas Taylor]

Re: Persecuting Christians is Part of the War on Christmas.

Besides all developped countries grant freedom of belief. Stop whining!

Ahem!!. No, they don't.

Now, instead of talking inane drivel and whinining like a little girl, pick up a copy of The Holy Bible (KJV 1611) and read it cover to cover and back to front. This would be a much better passtime for you than stabbing starfish.

Isaiah 1:17

Learne to doe well, seeke iudgement, relieue the oppressed, iudge the fatherlesse, plead for the widow

You have been judged and found lacking.

[winstonthewhiner]

Re: Persecuting Christians is Part of the War on Christmas.

Those of us here, members of the most persecuted religion in the world, need to fight back. We need to pray.

I was so encouraged by this pastor's idea of using the Christmas season to counter attack in the war against Christianity. He suggests an advent prayer written pricisely for this purpose:

http://www.christianpost.com/news/ad...iption-109651/

If you were legally entitled to it, you would persecute members of different beliefs as much as muslims do in some countries. Besides all developped countries grant freedom of belief. Stop whining!