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  • #16
    Re: What Christians believe about Abortion

    Originally posted by Jeb Thurmond View Post
    What Christians believe about Abortion: *snip*
    I believe I already made a thread on this subject. The bible is more pro-abortion than against. And, there are more quotes saying that life begins with the first breath, and not conception.
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    • #17
      Re: What Christians believe about Abortion

      That is one thing I disagree with both you AND Landover on...

      How can they quote Jesus from the Old Testament? God the Father said everything, God the Son said nothing until the Gospels...And all the quotes about "keeping the old law" were made BEFORE the Passion...Think up some ones afterwards...
      ACTS 5:29
      But Peter and the apostles said in reply, "We must obey God rather than men."
      There you have it-so WHAT'S STOPPING YOU COWARDS?

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      • #18
        Re: What Christians believe about Abortion

        It's all fairytales to me, Fr Tom. You might as well ask me 'how could that awful wolf eat little red riding hood'?
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        • #19
          Re: What Christians believe about Abortion

          Originally posted by Seeker View Post
          I don't give a flying monkey of this political nonsense. I could never ever have an abortion. Okay, If i was raped, ya betcha, morning after pill. In a nano second... Something like (don't make me look it up now cuz it is past my bedtime)US military does it 24/7. how is it okay to kill grown adults "JUST WALKING IN THEIR Land.."











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          At least I would be in the ER in 3 seconds before anyone could bitch a human life. And then some. I would be the one for the responsibility in that sense.

          I am a way... leftie, but still... Yeah, abortion makes me sad.. But I realize the Rublicans that bitch are not willing to give up their Christian homes for it. (sad) They like to kill!!!




          What's the difference between a wanted Child for Christ and a Child conceived in rape? I see none, they two are still children, Shouldn't both be given their fair chance at life as you and I were. Abortion in any form is wrong and goes against the Bible "Be fruitful and multiply" If Christ wanted his children smited he would do it himself, Man (or woman) has NO RIGHT doing Christ's job for him and any man who pretends to be the Lord and smit a child born or unborn deserves to burn in hell for all eternity.

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          • #20
            Re: What Christians believe about Abortion

            Originally posted by DantesBbyGrl07 View Post
            What's the difference between a wanted Child for Christ and a Child conceived in rape? I see none, they two are still children, Shouldn't both be given their fair chance at life as you and I were. Abortion in any form is wrong and goes against the Bible "Be fruitful and multiply" If Christ wanted his children smited he would do it himself, Man (or woman) has NO RIGHT doing Christ's job for him and any man who pretends to be the Lord and smit a child born or unborn deserves to burn in hell for all eternity.
            Because if one was aborted - that would be a straight ticket to paradise. They would not have to endure free will.

            If the Lord leads you to it, he will get you through it.

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            • #21
              Re: What Christians believe about Abortion

              Originally posted by DantesBbyGrl07 View Post
              Abortion in any form is wrong and goes against the Bible "Be fruitful and multiply"
              Good point. I'm glad to see that you agree with us.
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              • #22
                Re: What Christians believe about Abortion

                Originally posted by Seeker View Post
                Because if one was aborted - that would be a straight ticket to paradise. They would not have to endure free will.
                Sorry, but no.
                Everyone who hasn't accepted Jesus, the unborn included, go to hell.
                If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: But if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it.
                A foolish woman is clamorous: She is simple, and knoweth nothing.
                Proverbs 9:12-13

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                • #23
                  Re: What Christians believe about Abortion

                  Originally posted by SalvationSeeker View Post
                  Sorry, but no.
                  Everyone who hasn't accepted Jesus, the unborn included, go to hell.
                  Amen, Brother SS. I do hope this Seeker child ain't advocating abortion, we have enough witches and harlots and liberals here who do that as it is!
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                  • #24
                    Re: What Christians believe about Abortion

                    Originally posted by Seeker View Post
                    I don't give a flying monkey of this political nonsense. I could never ever have an abortion. Okay, If i was raped, ya betcha, morning after pill. In a nano second... Something like (don't make me look it up now cuz it is past my bedtime)US military does it 24/7. how is it okay to kill grown adults "JUST WALKING IN THEIR Land.."
                    ...
                    I am a way... leftie, but still... Yeah, abortion makes me sad.. But I realize the Rublicans that bitch are not willing to give up their Christian homes for it. (sad) They like to kill!!!
                    Woman. No-one cares what you have to say. If we wanted your opinion, we'd ask you to bake an opinion-shaped pie.
                    Originally posted by Father Thomas Martin View Post
                    That is one thing I disagree with both you AND Landover on...

                    How can they quote Jesus from the Old Testament? God the Father said everything, God the Son said nothing until the Gospels...And all the quotes about "keeping the old law" were made BEFORE the Passion...Think up some ones afterwards...
                    Have you ever heard of this wacky conspiracy theory about the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost all being one? It's quite common among, um, Christians. And it's surprisingly hard trying to find quotes from Christ from AFTER He ascended up to Heaven, for some reason. Would you care to post any Bible verses, or would that go against your beliefs?
                    Originally posted by Seeker View Post
                    Because if one was aborted - that would be a straight ticket to paradise. They would not have to endure free will.
                    Are you seriously claiming that an unborn baby can repent of its sins and accept Christ? Because if not, I don't see how you can even begin to justify falsely claiming that the little critters aren't going straight to the flamepit.
                    O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



                    God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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                    • #25
                      Re: What Christians believe about Abortion

                      Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
                      Have you ever heard of this wacky conspiracy theory about the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost all being one? It's quite common among, um, Christians. And it's surprisingly hard trying to find quotes from Christ from AFTER He ascended up to Heaven, for some reason. Would you care to post any Bible verses, or would that go against your beliefs?
                      Yes,
                      The Father IS God.
                      The Son IS God.
                      The Holy Spirit IS God.

                      BUT:

                      The Father is NOT the Son.
                      The Son is NOT the Holy Spirit.
                      The Father is NOT the Holy Spirit.

                      What you're proposing is the heresy of Modalism, saying God is one Person wearing three "masks," rather than three unique Persons in one same God, as TRUE CHRISTIANS believe!
                      ACTS 5:29
                      But Peter and the apostles said in reply, "We must obey God rather than men."
                      There you have it-so WHAT'S STOPPING YOU COWARDS?

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                      • #26
                        Re: What Christians believe about Abortion

                        Originally posted by Father Thomas Martin View Post
                        Yes,
                        The Father IS God.
                        The Son IS God.
                        The Holy Spirit IS God.

                        BUT:

                        The Father is NOT the Son.
                        The Son is NOT the Holy Spirit.
                        The Father is NOT the Holy Spirit.
                        No, you're wrong.
                        If you're confused on the trinity (of course you are, being an unrepentat papist you can't really see the nature of God)
                        Then here's an example.. Water comes in three forms: liquid, ice and steam/gas.
                        All those are water, yet in 3 very different forms. And they're inseparable as they're the same compound.
                        It's the same with God.

                        So when Jesus speaks, He speaks not of His own. He speaks for all 3.
                        The same goes for any other part of God. When the Father said it, the Son said it too, and so the Holy Spirit.

                        Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
                        If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
                        John 7:16-17

                        ^ Thus He is inseparable from the Father. Thus, when Jesus spoke, the Father did too:
                        So when the Father spoke, Jesus did too.

                        I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.
                        John 8:18

                        For He says bears witness of Himself.
                        But in John 5:31, He says that if He bears witness of Himself, His witness is not true.
                        So if He were separable from any other part of the God, how then could He bear witness of Himself without contradicting His previous sayings in John 5:31?
                        Are you saying Jesus Christ, savior of mankind, contradict Himself??

                        He can bear witness of Himself without contradicting Himself, as 'Himself' is one made out of three parts that can act individually, yet are inseparable.
                        Three who are one, even in Jesus Himself, who bears witness of Jesus.

                        For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word*, and the Holy Ghost:
                        And these three are one.
                        1 John 5:7

                        *Jesus is the Word, who is God and with God, the Creator of all.
                        See John 1:1-3, John 1:10 & John 1:14

                        Confused, papist scum? Well, as the Holy Bible says:
                        But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:
                        For they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
                        1 Corinthians 2:14

                        If you are, or/and if you reject this.
                        That's because you are a natural man, an unsaved man.. And so hellbound and without the Spirit.

                        What you're proposing is the heresy of Modalism, saying God is one Person wearing three "masks," rather than three unique Persons in one same God, as TRUE CHRISTIANS believe!
                        No, we're not. God is ONE entity made out of three inseparable and interchangeable parts that can act individually, and are all made out of the same 'essence'.
                        It's you who believe in THREE DIFFERENT GODS crammed in one body like siamese twins instead of ONE GOD!
                        REPENT HERETIC!
                        If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: But if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it.
                        A foolish woman is clamorous: She is simple, and knoweth nothing.
                        Proverbs 9:12-13

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                        • #27
                          Re: What Christians believe about Abortion

                          Originally posted by SalvationSeeker View Post
                          Sorry, but no.
                          Everyone who hasn't accepted Jesus, the unborn included, go to hell.
                          Well my bad because I have been taught a couple of different things.

                          One is that the age of accountabilty that is really not even in the bible, so to say. All children are innocent because they don't understand sin yet. So they get a 'free' ticket if they die before hand. Even though they are born in sin, thanks to Adam. It really boils down to it is your parents fault that they had sex and Boom you came along.

                          Another one is babtism but that has been debunked since we know the thief on the cross made it by the hair on his chiny chin chin..


                          So by your theory( I mean the word) are you saying that all children/babies are going to hell aborted or not because they are not able to understand Jesus at their time of death and life and they are SOL for living at that time? Reminds me of a ton of OT people.

                          Sweet.

                          If the Lord leads you to it, he will get you through it.

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                          • #28
                            Re: What Christians believe about Abortion

                            Woman. No-one cares what you have to say. If we wanted your opinion, we'd ask you to bake an opinion-shaped pie.
                            That would be cool. How can I do that?

                            If the Lord leads you to it, he will get you through it.

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                            • #29
                              Re: What Christians believe about Abortion

                              The bible not only condones abortion...it tell of ways to do an abortion in the Bible. Especially if your woman has slept with another man.

                              Oh yes....read up young serpents tongued ones. Abortion IS in the Bible.



                              "And when he hath made her drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people. And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed." (Numbers 5:27-28)

                              Jesus wonders if I am the only super christian on the planet....of course I am.

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                              • #30
                                Re: What Christians believe about Abortion

                                Originally posted by Father Skeptic View Post
                                The bible not only condones abortion...it tell of ways to do an abortion in the Bible. Especially if your woman has slept with another man.

                                Oh yes....read up young serpents tongued ones. Abortion IS in the Bible.



                                "And when he hath made her drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people. And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed." (Numbers 5:27-28)

                                Jesus wonders if I am the only super christian on the planet....of course I am.
                                They don't call you "Unsaved Trash" on this board for nothing!
                                ACTS 5:29
                                But Peter and the apostles said in reply, "We must obey God rather than men."
                                There you have it-so WHAT'S STOPPING YOU COWARDS?

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