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  • JennyD
    Honorary True Christian™
    Sweet Placid Sister
    Forum Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 9567

    #1

    Obama's Purpose-Driven Inauguration!

    I'm really not sure how to feel about this. After all, Rick Warren is rather liberal . . .

    Prominent liberal groups and gay rights proponents criticized President-elect Barack HUSSEIN Obama Wednesday for choosing evangelical pastor Rick Warren to deliver the invocation at the presidential inauguration next month.

    President-elect Barack HUSSEIN Obama has chosen pastor Rick Warren to deliver the invocation at his inauguration.

    Warren, one of the most influential religious leaders in the nation, has championed issues such as a reduction of global poverty, human rights abuses and the AIDS epidemic.

    But the founder of the Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California, has also adhered to socially conservative stances -- including his opposition to gay marriage and abortion rights that puts him at odds with many in the Democratic Party, especially the party's most liberal wing.

    "[It's] shrewd politics, but if anyone is under any illusion that Obama is interested in advancing gay equality, they should probably sober up now," Andrew Sullivan wrote on the Atlantic Web site Wednesday.

    People for the American Way President Kathryn Kolbert told CNN she is "deeply disappointed" with the choice of Warren and said the powerful platform at the inauguration should instead have been given to someone who has "consistent mainstream American values."

    "There is no substantive difference between Rick Warren and James Dobson," Kolbert said. "The only difference is tone. His tone is moderate, but his ideas are radical."

    Dobson, a social conservative leader, is founder and chairman of Focus on the Family.

    Linda Douglass, a spokeswoman for Obama, defended the choice of Warren, saying, "This is going to be the most inclusive, open, accessible inauguration in American history."

    "The president-elect certainly disagrees with him on [lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender] issues," Douglass said. "But it has always been his goal to find common ground with people with whom you may disagree on some issues."

    Douglass also noted that Obama and Warren agree on several issues, including advocating on behalf of the poor, the disadvantaged and people who suffer from HIV/AIDS.

    Warren's support of California's Proposition 8, a measure that outlaws same sex marriage in the state, sparked the ire of many gay rights proponents earlier this fall.

    Warren, who has made it a practice not to endorse candidates or political parties, wrote in October that the issue of gay marriage is not a political issue, but instead "a moral issue that God has spoken clearly about."

    "For 5,000 years, every culture and every religion -- not just Christianity -- has defined marriage as a contract between men and women," Warren wrote in a newsletter to his congregation. "There is no reason to change the universal, historical definition of marriage to appease 2 percent of our population."

    Warren also stirred controversy earlier this week when he told Beliefnet.com his grounds for opposing same-sex marriage laid primarily on his right of free speech.

    "There were all kinds of threats that if [Proposition 8] did not pass, then any pastor could be considered doing hate speech if he shared his views that he didn't think homosexuality was the most natural way for relationships, and that would be hate speech."

    Joe Solmonese, president of the Human Rights campaign, said Wednesday he feels a "deep level of disrespect" over the choice of Warren and is calling on Obama to reconsider the move.

    "By inviting Rick Warren to your inauguration, you have tarnished the view that gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender Americans have a place at your table," Solmonese said in an open letter to Obama that was released by his organization.

    In his recent interview with Beliefnet, Warren also sparked outrage among supporters of abortion rights for criticizing those who have said abortion would be "safe and rare."

    "Don't tell me it should be rare," he said in the interview. "That's like saying on the Holocaust, 'Well, maybe we could save 20 percent of the Jewish people in Poland and Germany and get them out and we should be satisfied with that -- I'm not satisfied with that. I want the Holocaust ended."

    But Warren, whose church attracts more than 20,000 people a week, has widely been recognized for his attempts to expand the evangelical movement beyond socially conservative issues.

    In the 2008 election, Warren hosted Obama and Sen. John McCain, the Republican presidential nominee, at a candidate forum held in his church.

    His book "The Purpose Driven Life" has sold more than 20 million copies since it was first published five years ago, and Time magazine named him one of the 25 most influential evangelicals in 2005.
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  • Pastor Ezekiel
    Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
     
    • Sep 2006
    • 78556

    #2
    Re: Obama's Purpose-Driven Inauguration!

    Dick Warren is a fag-enabler, a false Christian and a lousy golfer. Don't even get me started on his behavior at the Pastor's Conference in Bali last Winter.

    I was under the impression that our own Pastor Pistle had been asked to give the invocation. I'll bet Barack Obama took a page from that crooked Governor from his home state and auctioned it off to the highest bidder.

    Of course Pastor Pistle is above such skulduggery.
    Who Will Jesus Damn?

    Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

    Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

    Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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    • eliot mayfield
      God Squad
      True Christian™
      • Sep 2006
      • 9324

      #3
      Re: Obama's Purpose-Driven Inauguration!

      It could have been worse though.
      Matthew:
      5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
      5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled
      10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
      10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.


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      • Pastor Al E Pistle
        Christ's Cōnsiliārius
         
        • Sep 2006
        • 9323

        #4
        Re: Obama's Purpose-Driven Inauguration!

        Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
        I was under the impression that our own Pastor Pistle had been asked to give the invocation.
        I don't know what happened. I am the logical and moral choice since I am in his home state and I even sent in a rough draft of the invocation so they could allot the time.

        Our Father who art in Heaven
        Harold be thy name.

        On this lovely day with only three inches of ice covering a million frigid women who walked through the snow to witness this great event, we thank Thee for the great blessing we received during the past eight years and the lesson that waterboarding is now a proper punishment instead of detention after school.

        Dear Lord, thank you for pulling this boy Obama and his picaninnies out of the grasp of that racist nigger Jeremiah Wright and the SATAN-worshiping Chicago coonskin church.

        And thank you Lord, for making a hundred million assault weapons available in time for Christmas at a price every American could afford. It seems that families are getting back to the true spirit of the early settlers by arming their entire families instead of reading to them from the fag-enabling books of Drs. Spock and Seuss.

        And thank you God for kicking down that dog Hitlery Klingon who wanted to be President but was bitch-slapped back into her place by this black boy right here. Now she can carry water as she is told.

        We thank you with all our hearts for melting down the economy of the world far enough to uncover the evil machinations of that JOO Bernie Madoff, even if it causes a new holocaust Jesus to return with the gift of Armageddon. And one last thing, Lord. Please never let my eyes gaze on Larry King in a hot tub with Jim Carrey ever again, because it maketh me throw up a little in my mouth.

        In Thy Divine name we pray
        Amen
        Emeritus Professor of the Christ Jesus Chair of Theology at Landover Baptist University.
        "God loves you. Let us arrange for you to meet Him".
        Break their teeth, O God, in their mouth.--Psalms 58:6


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        • Mr. Jingles
          Forum Member
          Forum Member
          • Aug 2007
          • 574

          #5
          Re: Obama's Purpose-Driven Inauguration!

          Boy, Pastor Pistle, that was inspirational. That prayer would make a fine Chick Tract, I believe.

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          • eliot mayfield
            God Squad
            True Christian™
            • Sep 2006
            • 9324

            #6
            Re: Obama's Purpose-Driven Inauguration!

            Pastor pistle is the best this side of Jesus!
            Matthew:
            5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
            5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled
            10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
            10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.


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            • SayvedByTheLord
              Sinner Who Has Found the Truth©
              True Christian™
              • May 2007
              • 3151

              #7
              Re: Obama's Purpose-Driven Inauguration!

              Pastor Al this brought me out of my prayer closet and into the Full Light of Jesus© GLORY!


              Leviticus 26:27-29

              27 And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me;
              28 Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.
              29 And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.

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              • Virginia Day Templeton
                Christ's Battle Axe
                 
                • Dec 2006
                • 2827

                #8
                Re: Obama's Purpose-Driven Inauguration!

                Obama may as well have picked Anton LaVey.

                Warren is just another filthy kike-kisser, groveling in his own feces before altar of the Almighty ZOG. He is not a Christian but a crypto-Jew. He has actively assisted Big Jewry in turning righteous people to their path of parasitism and Mammon-worship. Here is a shocking exposé of his crimes from our friends at the Museum of Idolatry.

                Rick Warren Councils Jewish Leaders On How to Recruit Congregants
                This story from the Christian Post is just mind boggling. It says:

                "Megachurch pastor Rick Warren attended a large Reform Jewish gathering last week to share tips on how to build a community....
                The “Purpose-Driven” pastor spoke to thousands of Jewish leaders Thursday night at the Union for Reform Judaism’s biennial convention in San Diego.

                With the holiday season in mind, Warren urged clergy to take advantage of crowded events to publicize other programs so people can get involved in the community through smaller groups.

                “There are some principles that apply regardless of our faith, if it’s Jewish or Christian,” he said at the convention....

                After Warren spoke a few minutes at the podium, he sat alongside two popular Southern California rabbis for a casual talk about strengthening congregational life."

                Are we missing something here? We've been working from the notion that Jesus Christ is the ONLY way of salvation and that we as the church are called to make disciples through the preaching of Christ Crucified for sinners. With that being the case, we don't see any freedom given by God in His Word for a Christian pastor to help Jewish synagogues recruit people.

                Have we completely missed the boat here? Are non-Christians now saved? Is the only thing that matters to God is that people go to "A" house of worship regardless of whether it is Christian, Jewish, Muslim or 'other'?

                How is what Rick Warren did NOT a complete betrayal of Jesus Christ?
                Indeed, brothers, indeed. Rick Warren needs a shower!
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                • Meek and Humble
                  Biblical Poet, Warrior and Scholar
                  Biblical Black Belt
                  Jr. Pastor
                  True Christian™
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 6197

                  #9
                  Re: Obama's Purpose-Driven Inauguration!

                  Rick Warren is Muslim?

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