[OnYourKnees]

Re: Muslim forced to marry goat!

Moon God, How do you know this?? Or do you just believe everything being said to you??

Apparently, you believe that your "allah" picked an illiterate out of the wilderness, and was unable to make him literate. Through this, "allah" "proved" that this illiterate was his true prophet. After all, an illiterate couldn't possibly compose poetry.

. . . or a few intelligent people got together, wrote a religion, and picked an illiterate (or maybe NOT illiterate, perhaps he was faking?) to run about declaring what he was told.

How do you know the difference? Because a book written by a handful of people quoting an illiterate pedophile says so?

Yeah, there's something to base one's life upon. Let's find another illiterate pedophile and start a religion!

Too bad Father Mo can read.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Muslim forced to marry goat!

Amen Brother SS! In my research I have uncovered THIS scholarly website, which proves beyond any doubt that allah (may piss be upon him) was nothing but a cult moon-god. Which of course means he is of satan.

The Archeology of The Middle East

The religion of Islam has as its focus of worship a deity by the name of "Allah." The Muslims claim that Allah in pre-Islamic times was the biblical God of the Patriarchs, prophets, and apostles. The issue is thus one of continuity. Was "Allah" the biblical God or a pagan god in Arabia during pre- Islamic times? The Muslim's claim of continuity is essential to their attempt to convert Jews and Christians for if "Allah" is part of the flow of divine revelation in Scripture, then it is the next step in biblical religion. Thus we should all become Muslims. But, on the other hand, if Allah was a pre- Islamic pagan deity, then its core claim is refuted. Religious claims often fall before the results of hard sciences such as archeology. We can endlessly speculate about the past or go and dig it up and see what the evidence reveals. This is the only way to find out the truth concerning the origins of Allah. As we shall see, the hard evidence demonstrates that the god Allah was a pagan deity. In fact, he was the Moon-god who was married to the sun goddess and the stars were his daughters.

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Muslim forced to marry goat!

Moon God, How do you know this?? Or do you just believe everything being said to you??

Moon worship was praticed in the arabic world thousands of years before Islam, and can you guess which was the symbol for this pagan belief?
A crescent moon.

The Kaba in Mecca was originally a place of pagan worship, where they worshipped a "god" named Hubal..
A moon god.

Muslims pray in Mecca around the Kaba and towards Mecca (the Kaba), and try to kiss or touch the stone:
EXACTLY THE SAME RITES as the pagans who worshipped Hubal did.

Hubal was, as all tribal "gods" in those days, usually referred to as al-ilah..
Does that sound familiar to something else?

Before Moohamhead, not a single person claimed that the Kaba belonged to anyone but Hubal, that is a moon god.

Ramadan, very important for you muslims, and has everything to do with the moon..
Even admitted so by you islamists themselves:
"The much-anticipated start of the month is based on a combination of physical sightings of the moon and astronomical calculations."

http://msa.union.rpi.edu/islamicresources/Islam/Ramadan/BasicsofRamadan.htm

You may say what you want, but hard fact & reality speaks against you.
Your religion originated in pagan moon worship and then Moohamhead simply reconstructed a few things, stole some Christian and jewish concepts..
And turned one of the tribal gods into a monethistic one.

[shert]

Re: Muslim forced to marry goat!

You have to read these verses in context. God's order was a test of faith - a test that Saul failed miserably. "How badly did Saul fail?", you ask. He failed so badly that God repented ever making Saul a king - even though the Bible tells us that God repenteth not. You can't fail more badly than that.

1 Samuel 15:11 It repenteth me that I have set up Saul to be king: for he is turned back from following me, and hath not performed my commandments. And it grieved Samuel; and he cried unto the LORD all night.

Still, your point eludes me. Don't you Muslims normally claim that your moon god is the same God as ours? How can you reproach us for following the same God that you (mistakenly) think you follow?

So, Islam was being reproached by Brother Temperance and I had to answer his reproach since I am a Muslim.

Brother Temperance said that Islam is barbaric because the prophet ordered to kill any sexually assaulted animal along with its assaulter because this animal might carry diseases. Brother Temperance said its barbaric because the animal did nothing wrong.
Then your God through 10 generations in Hell because one of their ancestors was a bastard. What wrong did the 10 generations do??

Moon God, How do you know this?? Or do you just believe everything being said to you??

Yes, we believe the Allah is the God who sent Abraham, Mosses, Jesus and Mohammed.
We also believe that the Bible has been corrupted, so you are not following God after all. Thats why there is still a debate whether Christians should follow OT or just the NT. If Christians still debate whether what should be the bible and what shouldn't, what do you think others think??

[Pastor Rune Enoe]

Re: Muslim forced to marry goat!

I am saying if Islam, in your view, is considered Barbaric for killing a diseased animal. Then Christianity should also fall in the same view for mass killing animals because you think the animals worship Satan!

Also, you still haven't answered the question.

Don't you think mass killing animals, because you guys think that the animals are worshiping Satan, a bit Barbaric??

You have to read these verses in context. God's order was a test of faith - a test that Saul failed miserably. "How badly did Saul fail?", you ask. He failed so badly that God repented ever making Saul a king - even though the Bible tells us that God repenteth not. You can't fail more badly than that.

1 Samuel 15:11 It repenteth me that I have set up Saul to be king: for he is turned back from following me, and hath not performed my commandments. And it grieved Samuel; and he cried unto the LORD all night.

Still, your point eludes me. Don't you Muslims normally claim that your moon god is the same God as ours? How can you reproach us for following the same God that you (mistakenly) think you follow?

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Muslim forced to marry goat!

Also, where does it say that the animals were worshiping Satan?? When I read the verse:
3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.



The reason that a normal user get is destroying everything and not sparing anying including Men/Women/Infants/Suckling/Ox/Sheep/Camel/Ass.
You see, killing/destroying/not sparing anything, thats more like Barbarism.

Yes, we were ordered to smite Amalek because the Amalekites and their animals had provoked God's wrath by rejecting Him and worshipping false gods - that is to say, Satan. Clear?

[R-R-R]

Re: Muslim forced to marry goat!

Abu Hurairah reported Allah's Messenger (Pbuh) said: "Four types of people awake under Allah's anger and go to bed under Allah's displeasure." Those who were listening asked: "Who are they, Messenger of Allah?" He replied: Men who imitate women, women who imitate men, those who have sex with animals, and men who have sex with men."

Allah isn't very strict if he only inflicts his wrath upon crossdressers, homers and people who indulge themselves in beastiality...

[shert]

Re: Muslim forced to marry goat!

Which is exactly why our Godly troops are sending your people to hell each and every day in iraquistan. You people are barbarians, as commanded by your false moon God and your child-molesting false prophet, may piss be upon them both.

So you are saying that we are barbarians for getting slaughtered by your troops!

You see a normal intelligent human being would see the opposite.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Muslim forced to marry goat!

The reason that a normal user get is destroying everything and not sparing anying including Men/Women/Infants/Suckling/Ox/Sheep/Camel/Ass.
You see, killing/destroying/not sparing anything, thats more like Barbarism.

Which is exactly why our Godly troops are sending your people to hell each and every day in iraquistan. You people are barbarians, as commanded by your false moon God and your child-molesting false prophet, may piss be upon them both.

[shert]

Re: Muslim forced to marry goat!

Following the prophet is following Koran and Obeying God.

"O ye who believe! Obey God, and obey the Apostle, and those charged with authority among you. If ye differ in anything among yourselves, refer it to God and His Apostle, if ye do believe in God and the Last Day: That is best, and most suitable for final determination. (4:59)"


Brother Temperance:
Let me quote you here: "No, the animal does not make a choice to become diseased, so it has done nothing wrong. The Satan-worshipping animal has actively sinned."


You are saying above that the animal did nothing wrong and didn't have a choice to become diseased, therefore it would be barbaric to kill it.
What wrong did the bastard do to deserve to burn in Hell?? Or what choice did he/she have? The bastard didn't actively sin, like the Satan-worshiping Ox, ass, camel, and sheep!!


Killing the sexually assaulted animals is because it would be filthy if someone eats it, and the animal can get transmitted diseases from the person "especially if this person is in the habit of sexually assaulting animals".


Again:
Are there any Satan worshiping animals nowadays?? How do you identify them?? Do you eat them??



Also, where does it say that the animals were worshiping Satan?? When I read the verse:
3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.



The reason that a normal user get is destroying everything and not sparing anying including Men/Women/Infants/Suckling/Ox/Sheep/Camel/Ass.
You see, killing/destroying/not sparing anything, thats more like Barbarism.

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Muslim forced to marry goat!

This is dumb and wrong.

The guy should have been sentenced to death along with the goat.

Here is the proof:

Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas: "The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: If anyone has sexual intercourse with an animal, kill him and kill it along with him. I (Ikrimah) said: I asked him (Ibn Abbas): What offence can be attributed to the animal? He replied: I think he (the Prophet) disapproved of its flesh being eaten when such a thing had been done to it.


Abu Hurairah reported Allah's Messenger (Pbuh) said: "Four types of people awake under Allah's anger and go to bed under Allah's displeasure." Those who were listening asked: "Who are they, Messenger of Allah?" He replied: Men who imitate women, women who imitate men, those who have sex with animals, and men who have sex with men."

OnYourKnees:

I am saying if Islam, in your view, is considered Barbaric for killing a diseased animal. Then Christianity should also fall in the same view for mass killing animals because you think the animals worship Satan!

Also, you still haven't answered the question.

Don't you think mass killing animals, because you guys think that the animals are worshiping Satan, a bit Barbaric??

Who said anything about "diseased" animals?

Muslims kill animals which have been sexually assaulted by humans. That doesn't make the animals diseased.

You say Muslims kill animals based upon your (unreferenced) quote. I'm guessing it is coming from one of those "secondary, but completely unnecessary" books that is NOT the Koran. Whichever book it's in, your "commandment" is a commandment of Mohammed, not Allah. The quote states, "The Prophet said", not "The Prophet reports Allah said". As to the reasoning? There is mere speculation!

He replied: I think he (the Prophet) disapproved of its flesh being eaten when such a thing had been done to it.

God commanded the Israelites to slaughter the livestock of particular enemies. Directly commanded, the reason being BECAUSE HE SAID SO.

And yet again, your great defense of Islam is to say that "Christianity is barbaric, too!" I'm really moved to join up . . . where do I sign?

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Muslim forced to marry goat!

OnYourKnees:

I am saying if Islam, in your view, is considered Barbaric for killing a diseased animal. Then Christianity should also fall in the same view for mass killing animals because you think the animals worship Satan!

No, the animal does not make a choice to become diseased, so it has done nothing wrong. The Satan-worshipping animal has actively sinned.

[shert]

Re: Muslim forced to marry goat!

OnYourKnees:

I am saying if Islam, in your view, is considered Barbaric for killing a diseased animal. Then Christianity should also fall in the same view for mass killing animals because you think the animals worship Satan!

Also, you still haven't answered the question.

Don't you think mass killing animals, because you guys think that the animals are worshiping Satan, a bit Barbaric??

And how did you know that the animals were worshiping Satan?? What were the signs?? Do you check if the animal is worshiping Satan before you eat it?? Does the animal practice worshiping Satan by eating Grass, or feeding its kids??

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Muslim forced to marry goat!

Thats cool. I didn't know that animals worship Satan.

Then lets say Christians mass kill these ANIMALS because these ANIMALS worship Satan.

And Muslims kill ANIMALS because they are not edible or diseased, if someone has a sexual intercourse with an animal.

I wonder which one is viewed as Barbarism?? And don't give the "God told us to", because I can say the very same thing.

Maybe someone who doesn't believe in the bible and koran should answer the above question.

So are you trying to justify and/or promote your religion by saying that some aspect of Christianity is, in your view, "just as bad"?!

If that's the best defense you can come up with for Islam, that doesn't say much for Mohammedism!!

[shert]

Re: Muslim forced to marry goat!

Are you seriously trying to deny that oxen, sheep, camels and asses can worship Satan? That's not the view that God seems to take.

Thats cool. I didn't know that animals worship Satan.

Then lets say Christians mass kill these ANIMALS because these ANIMALS worship Satan.

And Muslims kill ANIMALS because they are not edible or diseased, if someone has a sexual intercourse with an animal.

I wonder which one is viewed as Barbarism?? And don't give the "God told us to", because I can say the very same thing.

Maybe someone who doesn't believe in the bible and koran should answer the above question.