Re: Christian martyred in Wisconsin while exterminating Sikh infestation
First of all Mr Reveran, your quoting from the bible, let me just remind you look at how many times the bible has been changed over the last 100's of years, it's not authentic.
Secondly Jesus Chris never wrote the bible, therefore the Bible is not the words of Jesus Chris, therefore the Bibles not authentic.
Thirdly - Jesus Chris wasn't the true man of God, as he didn't accept Gods will, as when he was crucified, his exact words were "My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?" As true man of god would have said, oh God what you are doing is sweet and in your sweet will.
When our 5th Guru was burnt alive, he said God your will is sweet, I beg for your naam.
Look at the difference yourself!! You people are worse that muslim extremists, you won't get no heaven, you will get hell.
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Re: Christian martyred in Wisconsin while exterminating Sikh infestation
Originally posted by THETRUTHSEEKER View PostSikhs are very hardworking and honest people and righteous we dont tend to do any injustice
heres the thing sikhs dont slander or put down or believe there is just one ultimate path.. there are many paths to the same god
John
14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
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Re: Christian martyred in Wisconsin while exterminating Sikh infestation
"Loving your enemies is to save them from hell. We need to tell them as Christian that they will burn in hell for all eternity, unless the convert to Christianity. This is what Jesus commands us to do. These sikh heathens does not believe in Him, so Jesus will throw them in hell. Turn or burn."
Fisrt of all.. I am Sikh.. I have no shame in stating this up front to you.. second of all.. I will not be angry or show any anger to you.. I will simply tell you the truth, to your questions, answers ,contradictions or accusations.
If you actually took some spare time to study Sikhi youll soon find out that instead of branding us or putting us in the same catagory as a Muslim... Youll find out we too have been at war with them SINCE our existance.. And not one of them.. Sikhi and Islam are not from the same cloth and are like chalk and cheese. Hindus are like to the sikhs how the Jews wanted to condemn Christ to death at that time. Sikhs can easily become your alliesits your choice and in your hands. But if your going to be ignorant to think all brown skin colour people from asia are "terrorists" and "muslims" then your very deluded and your letting your fear become the better of you and not your understanding and common sense.
Now as Christians im sure this is getting somewhere and strung a understanding straight away.. like I said if you want to slander me.. go ahead its your choice :
you see the quote at the time I kept YOU ARE VERY WRONG!! OF COURSE WE BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST!!
Brahm Giani is a Sikhi terms used to describe a highly enlightened individual who has obtained the ultimate blessings of Waheguru/GOD
Brahmgiani is the creator of all, immortal, dying never. Brahmgiani is the conferrer of the way of liberation, the perfect being, rewarder of deeds.
Brahmgiani is the succourer of the helpless;
Brahmgiani affords protection to all.
All creation is Brahmgiani’s image;
Brahmgiani himself is the Supreme Being.
Brahmgiani alone is deserving of his high repute;
Of all is Brahmgiani the overlord, sayeth Nanak.
(GG, 273-74)
Brahm giani looks on all beings equally and impartially—brahmgiani sada samdarsi (GG, 272). He showers the nectar of love and affection of all (GG, 373). An embodiment of compassion, he does good to others and helps those in distress. A model of piety and righteousness, he is the repository of all ethical virtues and a shunner of all vices and sins (GG, 272, 273). He is unaffected by the pleasures and enjoyments of the world just as the lotus-leaf remains untouched by water. He is fully in control of his mind and is pure and blemishless (GG. 272-73). He takes pleasure and pain, profit and loss alike. A Brahm giani leads others to the path of holiness and piety. He commands their spontaneous respect and reverence by virtue of his great glory and profound spiritual influence over them (GG, 273).
If you say to us.. Christ is only in it for christians only and looks down on us and thinks were scum and this n that and thats why he came to earth to spread this message (which i dont seem to find).. then why do we say Jesus is a BRAHM GIANI? This supreme being who blessed mankind at that time and still does with his presence clearly a man of god!? spoke the truth of god!?..
heres the thing sikhs dont slander or put down or believe there is just one ultimate path.. there are many paths to the same god.. god does not pick and chose his children does he :S?? since were all his creation?? and thats been said in all religions?.. and we have been blessed with these spiritual beings and respect there wisdom and spiritual knowledge which is from god himself!.. so if sikhs slander "other peoples religion" then surely it is slandering the truth of god from god himself!?.. JUST A THOUGHT!..
To answer your questions! WE ARE NOT TERRORISTS! WE ARE NOT MUSLIMS.. AND YES WE ACKNOWLEDGE JESUS..
Sikhs are very hardworking and honest people and righteous we dont tend to do any injustice.. because we know more than most people to feel injustice in the world.. please do not resort to slander.. killing people in a place of worship is wrong especially when they did no significant wrong to deserve to be killed in such a manner.. Im sorry if I have offended you in any way please forgive me if I have or for any mistakes i have done.
God bless you all.
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Re: Christian martyred in Wisconsin while exterminating Sikh infestation
Originally posted by Alphonse Alban View PostDo you seriously disagree on following the bible? If you do not follow the word of God, you are not a Christian.
(Deuteronomy 17:2-5) "If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant, And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel: Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die."
YiC,
Zech
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Re: Christian martyred in Wisconsin while exterminating Sikh infestation
Originally posted by JakeStandford View PostIm a born again Christian and I completely disagree with every single one of your views.
Originally posted by shelly taylor View PostHow can we hate people who we don't even know when we are told to love even our enemies. I have read the bible cover to cover and I have found no passage where Jesus told us to hate.
2 Timothy 4:1-2 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine .
Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Originally posted by shelly taylor View PostMatthew 7 clearly states:
Matthew 7:1-2 Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Leviticus 19:15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.
John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
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Re: Christian martyred in Wisconsin while exterminating Sikh infestation
Originally posted by WilliamJenningsBryan View PostSikh violence is everywhere (it's in their "tradition"), all you have to do is use Google. Minister Indira Ghandhi was assassinated by two of her Sikh bodyguards, and the violence hasn't stopped, and they want their children to attend public school wearing daggers.
Their silly religion was started by someone named "Nanak" (no doubt from another planet – just like the mormons), and they believe all revealed "truth" comes from him and his successors (sounds kind of like the cathylicks and their "pope"). Both the mooselimbs and the hindaloos hate the Sikhs – which is reason enough to distrust them. They should all just go back to Punjab.
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Re: Christian martyred in Wisconsin while exterminating Sikh infestation
Why do Christians preach hate?
Matthew 22:37-39
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
It doesn't say love your Christian neighbor.
Matthew 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
What happened to 1 Corinthians 13? Matthew 7?
1 John 2:9-11
9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.
10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
How can we hate people who we don't even know when we are told to love even our enemies. I have read the bible cover to cover and I have found no passage where Jesus told us to hate.
Matthew 7 clearly states:
Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
We have all fallen short.... and one sin is as great as any other (I trust you can find these scriptures yourself), so then should we all be exterminated? We are all sinners, that is why Jesus came and died.
Jesus did not exterminate anyone.
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Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View PostA True Christian™ would never disagree with another True Christian™ because both read the same words in the same way. Go ahead and see if you can find any examples of True Christians™ here disagreeing with each other. You won't find it because we all follow the Bible the way in which God intended.
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Re: Christian martyred in Wisconsin while exterminating Sikh infestation
Originally posted by sikhism21 View PostNo, our religion is not about Hatred. I pity you people. I'll pray for you, I hope you see the true light of the divine. Technically, you are white so I am not being racist. Race consists of an actual color.
Their silly religion was started by someone named "Nanak" (no doubt from another planet – just like the mormons), and they believe all revealed "truth" comes from him and his successors (sounds kind of like the cathylicks and their "pope"). Both the mooselimbs and the hindaloos hate the Sikhs – which is reason enough to distrust them. They should all just go back to Punjab.
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Re: Christian martyred in Wisconsin while exterminating Sikh infestation
Originally posted by somebody123 View PostGod tells you to kill them? Okay. Too bad you'll never be able to demolish EVERY non-Christian on this earth. But at least for all of you who have killed there will be the punishment of death or prison, where you'll be miserable and confined in a small cell while hopefully getting raped up your sorry, ignorant ass.
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Re: Christian martyred in Wisconsin while exterminating Sikh infestation
Originally posted by sikhism21 View PostNo, our religion is not about Hatred. I pity you people.
Originally posted by sikhism21 View PostTechnically, you are white so I am not being racist. Race consists of an actual color.
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Originally posted by wongje View PostIf you argue that a group of HUMAN BEINGS (Homo sapien sapien)(23 pairs of chromosomes, just like you and me) should be murdered in the name of religion, than you are just as bad as any religious extremist or terrorist as you would like to call them, because guess what, what religious extremists do, like the islamic jihadists you continuously go on about kill in the name of religion. WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU PREACH THEREFORE MAKING YOU A TERRORIST BY YOUR DEFINITION. Furthermore, don't forgot Christianity's past, remember the CRUSADES? Sounds like a holy war to me.
Moreover, on the subject of Islam, allah means "the god" as in one and only, it does not mean, the god I believe in that is different than yours, just like the word "tree" is different in different languages but still means the same thing unless you want to argue that it doesn't for which I would call you uneducated and not worthy of my attention.
Furthermore, the feeding of the needy is called langar, the last time I went to a Christian church I was asked to give money (which I fine because I donate to all religions because I believe in the FIRST AMENDMENT OF THE U.S. CONSTITUTION) but when is the last time a majority of christian churches did something like langar on a daily basis? Please do me the courtesy of answering me that.
It is because of your ignorance that the world exists in perpetual war and famine. PEACE ON EARTH DOESN'T COME FROM THE DIVINE, IT COMES FROM PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND ME CARING FOR EACH OTHER NO MATTER WHAT OUR PETTY DIFFERENCES ARE.
PLEASE REMEMBER, WHEN YOU DIE OR A SIKH DIES, OR A MUSLIM DIES, YOU ALL DIE, CHRISTIANS DON'T DIE IN A BETTER WAY WE ALL DIE EQUALLY.
NOW I WILL FRAME MY ARGUMENT IN TERMS OF YOUR BELIEFS, IF ALL MEN AND WOMEN DESCENDED FROM ADAM AND EVE, AND ADAM AND EVE FROM GOD, THEN WHY DO WE ALL BELIEVE IN DIFFERENT GODS (AS YOU CLAIM)
THE ANSWER, GOD IS NOT A PERSON, IT IS AN ENTITY THAT TRANSCENDS ALL THINGS AND ALL OF THE UNIVERSE. WHAT PEOPLE CALL GOD IS IRRELEVANT, WHETHER IT BE GOD, JOHOVAH, ALLAH, IK ONKAR (ONE GOD IN PUNJABI, THE LANGUAGE SPOKEN BY MANY SIKHS), VISHNU, SHIVA, KAMI, ETC)
ALL THESE NAMES SIMPLY DESCRIBE THE ENTITY OF GOD, THEY DONT DESCRIBE DIFFERENT GODS, THEY ARE JUST DIFFERENT NAMES FOR GOD, JUST AS I DESCRIBED EARLIER, DIFFERENT LANGUAGES CALL TREE BY DIFFERENT NAMES.
TO GET YOU ONTO THE RIGHT PATH OF ACCEPTING EACH OTHER HERE IS A NICE PIECE OF INFO:
LV 11:7
And the swine, though it divides the hoof, and is cloven footed, yet it chews not the cud; it is unclean to you.
LV 11:8
Of their flesh shall you not eat, and their carcass shall you not touch; they are unclean to you.
SO IT SUMS UP AS, YOU CAN'T EAT PORK, GUESS WHAT! YOU CAN'T IN ISLAM EITHER ITS HARAM. IT SEEMS YOU DO HAVE SOMETHING IN COMMON.
SO PLEASE, FOR THE SAKE OF HUMANITY, SHED YOUR IGNORANCE.
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Re: Christian martyred in Wisconsin while exterminating Sikh infestation
Originally posted by Zechariah Smyth View PostYour possum prayers won't do a thing.
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If you argue that a group of HUMAN BEINGS (Homo sapien sapien)(23 pairs of chromosomes, just like you and me) should be murdered in the name of religion, than you are just as bad as any religious extremist or terrorist as you would like to call them, because guess what, what religious extremists do, like the islamic jihadists you continuously go on about kill in the name of religion. WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU PREACH THEREFORE MAKING YOU A TERRORIST BY YOUR DEFINITION. Furthermore, don't forgot Christianity's past, remember the CRUSADES? Sounds like a holy war to me.
Moreover, on the subject of Islam, allah means "the god" as in one and only, it does not mean, the god I believe in that is different than yours, just like the word "tree" is different in different languages but still means the same thing unless you want to argue that it doesn't for which I would call you uneducated and not worthy of my attention.
Furthermore, the feeding of the needy is called langar, the last time I went to a Christian church I was asked to give money (which I fine because I donate to all religions because I believe in the FIRST AMENDMENT OF THE U.S. CONSTITUTION) but when is the last time a majority of christian churches did something like langar on a daily basis? Please do me the courtesy of answering me that.
It is because of your ignorance that the world exists in perpetual war and famine. PEACE ON EARTH DOESN'T COME FROM THE DIVINE, IT COMES FROM PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND ME CARING FOR EACH OTHER NO MATTER WHAT OUR PETTY DIFFERENCES ARE.
PLEASE REMEMBER, WHEN YOU DIE OR A SIKH DIES, OR A MUSLIM DIES, YOU ALL DIE, CHRISTIANS DON'T DIE IN A BETTER WAY WE ALL DIE EQUALLY.
NOW I WILL FRAME MY ARGUMENT IN TERMS OF YOUR BELIEFS, IF ALL MEN AND WOMEN DESCENDED FROM ADAM AND EVE, AND ADAM AND EVE FROM GOD, THEN WHY DO WE ALL BELIEVE IN DIFFERENT GODS (AS YOU CLAIM)
THE ANSWER, GOD IS NOT A PERSON, IT IS AN ENTITY THAT TRANSCENDS ALL THINGS AND ALL OF THE UNIVERSE. WHAT PEOPLE CALL GOD IS IRRELEVANT, WHETHER IT BE GOD, JOHOVAH, ALLAH, IK ONKAR (ONE GOD IN PUNJABI, THE LANGUAGE SPOKEN BY MANY SIKHS), VISHNU, SHIVA, KAMI, ETC)
ALL THESE NAMES SIMPLY DESCRIBE THE ENTITY OF GOD, THEY DONT DESCRIBE DIFFERENT GODS, THEY ARE JUST DIFFERENT NAMES FOR GOD, JUST AS I DESCRIBED EARLIER, DIFFERENT LANGUAGES CALL TREE BY DIFFERENT NAMES.
TO GET YOU ONTO THE RIGHT PATH OF ACCEPTING EACH OTHER HERE IS A NICE PIECE OF INFO:
LV 11:7
And the swine, though it divides the hoof, and is cloven footed, yet it chews not the cud; it is unclean to you.
LV 11:8
Of their flesh shall you not eat, and their carcass shall you not touch; they are unclean to you.
SO IT SUMS UP AS, YOU CAN'T EAT PORK, GUESS WHAT! YOU CAN'T IN ISLAM EITHER ITS HARAM. IT SEEMS YOU DO HAVE SOMETHING IN COMMON.
SO PLEASE, FOR THE SAKE OF HUMANITY, SHED YOUR IGNORANCE.
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Re: Christian martyred in Wisconsin while exterminating Sikh infestation
Originally posted by AndraM View PostHonestly! Discriminating because of weight as well? Ridiculous! I give up, you folks will not see the truth in love. Good Luck out there.....and seeing how this is all on the internet....GOOD LUCK
2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
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