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  • Pastor Ezekiel
    Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
     
    • Sep 2006
    • 78556

    #1

    College Prof Fired For Lying About God

    Well Praise Jesus! It is about time those egghead college professors start being held accountable for spewing rabid hatred about Christ. THIS monkeyboy in Des Moines got his come-uppance, but it won't hold a candle to what awaits him in hellfire.

    Teacher: I was fired, said Bible isn't literal

    A community college instructor in Red Oak claims he was fired after he told his students that the biblical story of Adam and Eve should not be literally interpreted.

    Steve Bitterman, 60, said officials at Southwestern Community College sided with a handful of students who threatened legal action over his remarks in a western civilization class Tuesday. He said he was fired Thursday.

    "I'm just a little bit shocked myself that a college in good standing would back up students who insist that people who have been through college and have a master's degree, a couple actually, have to teach that there were such things as talking snakes or lose their job," Bitterman said.

    Sarah Smith, director of the school's Red Oak campus, declined to comment Friday on Bitterman's employment status. The school's president, Barbara Crittenden, said Bitterman taught one course at Southwest. She would not comment, however, on his claim that he was fired over the Bible reference, saying it was a personnel issue.

    "I can assure you that the college understands our employees' free-speech rights," she said. "There was no action taken that violated the First Amendment."

    Bitterman, who taught part time at Southwestern and Omaha's Metropolitan Community College, said he uses the Old Testament in his western civilization course and always teaches it from an academic standpoint.

    Bitterman's Tuesday course was telecast to students in Osceola over the Iowa Communications Network. A few students in the Osceola classroom, he said, thought the lesson was "denigrating their religion."

    "I put the Hebrew religion on the same plane as any other religion. Their god wasn't given any more credibility than any other god," Bitterman said. "I told them it was an extremely meaningful story, but you had to see it in a poetic, metaphoric or symbolic sense, that if you took it literally, that you were going to miss a whole lot of meaning there."

    Bitterman said he called the story of Adam and Eve a "fairy tale" in a conversation with a student after the class and was told the students had threatened to see an attorney. He declined to identify any of the students in the class.

    "I just thought there was such a thing as academic freedom here," he said. "From my point of view, what they're doing is essentially teaching their students very well to function in the eighth century."

    Hector Avalos, an atheist religion professor at Iowa State University, said Bitterman's free-speech rights were violated if he was fired simply because he took an academic approach to a Bible story.

    "I don't know the circumstances, but if he's teaching something about the Bible and says it is a myth, he shouldn't be fired for that because most academic scholars do believe this is a myth, the story of Adam and Eve," Avalos said.

    "So it'd be no different than saying the world was not created in six days in science class.

    "You don't fire professors for giving you a scientific answer."

    Bitterman said Linda Wild, vice president of academic affairs at Southwest, fired him over the telephone.

    Wild did not return telephone or e-mail messages Friday. Bitterman said that he can think of no other reason college officials would fire him and that Smith, the director of the campus, has previously sat in on his classes and complimented his work.

    "As a taxpayer, I'd like to know if a tax-supported public institution of higher learning has given veto power over what can and cannot be said in its classrooms to a fundamentalist religious group," he said. "If it has ... then the taxpaying public of Iowa has a right to know. What's next? Whales talk French at the bottom of the sea?"
    Leave it to the Darwinistas to bring in the surrender monkeys.
    Who Will Jesus Damn?

    Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

    Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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  • Brother Temperance
    Senior Usher
    True Christian™ missionary to the Unsaved Kingdom
    A very nice young man
    True Christian™
    • Sep 2006
    • 15621

    #2
    Re: College Prof Fired For Lying About God

    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
    Well Praise Jesus! It is about time those egghead college professors start being held accountable for spewing rabid hatred about Christ. THIS monkeyboy in Des Moines got his come-uppance, but it won't hold a candle to what awaits him in hellfire.
    Originally posted by Mainstream media
    Steve Bitterman, 60, said officials at Southwestern Community College sided with a handful of students who threatened legal action over his remarks in a western civilization class Tuesday. He said he was fired Thursday.
    What was he thinking, knocking the Bible in a Western Civilisation class? Western Civilisation (aka all worthwhile civilisation) is based on the Bible, for crying out loud!
    Hector Avalos, an atheist religion professor at Iowa State University...
    So they finally admit that atheism is a religion. I'm a bit disturbed that the otherwise Godly state of Iowa is running atheist religion classes - what do the kids learn, how to memorise Dawkins off by heart and bow down to gold statues of Darwin?
    O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



    God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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    • Marshall
      Righteous and Patriotic
      Highest body count at the VFW
      True Christian™
      • Oct 2006
      • 3322

      #3
      Re: College Prof Fired For Lying About God

      Liberals complain about a lack of teachers while they fire teachers for being Liberals. Amazing.
      Of course the teacher is an idiot anyway and the kids are better off with a decent teacher who can read. Since God wrote the Bible, He must have meant for us to follow and understand it literally. Otherwise there would be asterisks and disclaimers all over it.
      God bless America, the Second Amendment and the Constitution. God bless the United States Marine Corps and all who fight for Jesus in third world cess pools. God bless the GOP and all they stand for, Truth, Honesty and the American people. God bless Landover Baptist Church and all True Christians™ the world over. Curses to our Muslim President, his failure is our Salvation.

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      • Wash O'Hanley
        Debate Moderator (and participant)
        Master Debater-- Has Never Been Defeated in a Debate
        Louder Than Reason
        True Christian™
        • Sep 2006
        • 2126

        #4
        Re: College Prof Fired For Lying About God

        These students were 100% correct and a college education and the instructors that give them have no right to belittle or correct the beliefs that students have. Belief takes precedence to "fact" so fact better suck it up and enjoy the back seat. If I want to believe that Democratic Presidential Candidate Barrack Obama is actually Osama Bin Laden and he blew up America on September 11th with weapons of mass destruction what right do you have to tell me I'm wrong?
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        • Marshall
          Righteous and Patriotic
          Highest body count at the VFW
          True Christian™
          • Oct 2006
          • 3322

          #5
          Re: College Prof Fired For Lying About God

          That analogy is a pearl of wisdom Brother Wash.
          Just because some hippy bean sprout sucking teacher hates Jesus doesn't mean he can shoot his mouth off and crush these kids faith. His "logic" is dangerous and he needs to be censored.
          God bless America, the Second Amendment and the Constitution. God bless the United States Marine Corps and all who fight for Jesus in third world cess pools. God bless the GOP and all they stand for, Truth, Honesty and the American people. God bless Landover Baptist Church and all True Christians™ the world over. Curses to our Muslim President, his failure is our Salvation.

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          • Virginia Day Templeton
            Christ's Battle Axe
             
            • Dec 2006
            • 2827

            #6
            Re: College Prof Fired For Lying About God

            I think he should be shot.
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            • Sister Noddy
              True Christian™
              True Christian™
              • Jun 2007
              • 1843

              #7
              Re: College Prof Fired For Lying About God

              "I'm just a little bit shocked myself that a college in good standing would back up students who insist that people who have been through college and have a master's degree, a couple actually, have to teach that there were such things as talking snakes or lose their job," Bitterman said.
              Notice the bitter irony that his name happens to be Bitterman? What are the chances of such a cooincidence in a random and UNGODLY scientific world? Sinners are marked for destruction, and the unsaved get their due punishment, in this world and the next. Where is that serpent when we need him? This guy needs a good talking too, then off to Hell with him.
              1st Timothy 2: 9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
              1st Timothy 2: 10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works ...


              1 Timothy 5: 16 If any man or woman that believeth have widows, let them relieve them, and let not the church be charged; that it may relieve them that are widows indeed ...

              Proverbs 31: 26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness ...
              Proverbs 31: 27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness ...

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              • Brother Temperance
                Senior Usher
                True Christian™ missionary to the Unsaved Kingdom
                A very nice young man
                True Christian™
                • Sep 2006
                • 15621

                #8
                Re: College Prof Fired For Lying About God

                Originally posted by Sister Noddy View Post
                Notice the bitter irony that his name happens to be Bitterman? What are the chances of such a cooincidence in a random and UNGODLY scientific world?
                Good point. If that doesn't prove intelligent design, nothing does!
                O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



                God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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