X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Mary Etheldreda
    replied
    Re: Health Care Costs

    Big Pharma is just raking in the profits with the scare tactics they KNOW will raise prices even though their policies do NOTHING! All they need to do is convince people that "germs" and little tiny things are more dangerous than anything else, and so they shoot other "germs" and little tiny things in behind them to bully them out of the way. Only they don't. Because that's silliness.



    Public Health Officials Know: Recently Vaccinated Individuals Spread Disease

    Leave a comment:


  • Freddy Osborne
    replied
    Re: Health Care Costs

    Originally posted by Glorious Tortoise Soup View Post
    What is causing health care costs to increase so significantly in the U.S.?
    All the unemployed liberals getting abortions and transgender operations.

    Leave a comment:


  • Witch Hammer
    replied
    Re: Health Care Costs

    Originally posted by alooneymormon View Post
    American health care is the most expensive in the world and has the worst outcomes of the countries which are similar in economy and lifestyle. And people who put money into business are called investors. Free markets encourage investments.
    That's funny, because I never read any of that nonsense in the Bible. Stop making things up, liar!

    Leave a comment:


  • alooneymoron
    replied
    Re: Health Care Costs

    Originally posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post
    GTSoup -

    Since you already have your own long-winded answer, why are you asking us?

    If you want a real answer, here you go:

    1. Obesity. People sit on their fat behinds, eating garbage, and staring at the TV all day. They have low income, thus have no insurance. Our liberal laws require hospitals to eat the cost when these lazy slobs waddle in for an emergency bypass operation, to the tune of $100K or more, and then immediately declare bankruptcy so they don't have to pay the bill. Those costs get passed along to everyone else.
    I guess only poor people are fat? If these people had insurance, they would have had preventative care, possibly avoiding the bypass. If they did need the bypass, it would not become the taxpayers burden.
    2. Frivolous lawsuits. People sue every chance they get, for as much as they can get, always looking for a free ride. They, like you, think that overworked doctors are "negligent" because they made a mistake, and should be responsible not just for correcting an error but for setting the litigant up for life with millions in "punitive damages". Malpractice insurance costs a fortune.
    How many lawyers does Trump have? Cheney? Romey?
    3. Regulations. The new health care disaster has INCREASED health insurance costs for small businesses. Instead of offering a catastrophic care policy, they're now forced to offer comprehensive health care. Some companies, like McDonald's, are simply DROPPING health insurance coverage for their part-time employees, because these plans are no longer acceptable under Obamacare . . . and full coverage would cost more than the employees earn in wages.
    McDonalds is not a small business. They make their billions off minimum wage workers. If McDs doesnt offer insurance, the workers may then go work for Burger King to work. It a free market.
    But I'm sure you won't consider any of those issues. It's all rich people being greedy, right?
    Yes, it is all about people being greedy, rich and poor. It all about the money. See what happens if this country decides to tax churches....
    By the way, the US has the most advanced medicine in the world because the people who put up billions of their private dollars for research and development -- much of which goes down the drain when drugs fail -- are able to earn a return on the investment.
    American health care is the most expensive in the world and has the worst outcomes of the countries which are similar in economy and lifestyle. And people who put money into business are called investors. Free markets encourage investments.

    Leave a comment:


  • Joanna Lytton-Vasey
    replied
    Re: Health Care Costs

    Originally posted by marklewis121 View Post
    Health care costs for individuals, are strongly related to age. The older one gets, the more care required.
    Wow, that's just amazingly deep! Do you work in healthcare or something, that you thought of it? I'm going to have to go away and think about it in some detail, and pray of course, before I can deal with it.

    Thank you so much for your insight.

    Leave a comment:


  • Pastor Isaac Peters
    replied
    Re: Health Care Costs

    Originally posted by marklewis121 View Post
    Health care costs for individuals, are strongly related to age. The older one gets, the more care required.
    Among the unsaved, the older one gets, the more sins meriting a Godly smiting one has committed.

    Leave a comment:


  • Alvin Moss
    replied
    Re: Health Care Costs

    Originally posted by marklewis121 View Post
    Health care costs for individuals, are strongly related to age. The older one gets, the more care required.


    It's the godless, meddling Federal Government. What are you, some kind of idiot, or what?

    Leave a comment:


  • James Hutchins
    replied
    Re: Health Care Costs

    Originally posted by Witch Hammer View Post
    How so? Before I sold my mother-in-law, I just pushed her wheelchair into the foyer and let her draw off the flies. Didn't cost me a penny.
    When my mother got old and no longer able to pull her weight, do her chores, she got very lazy. Then she got forgetful, not even knowing her name and worse, mine, her own son! I was going to have none of that.
    I decided the best thing was to send her on a Greyhound bus trip. I told her to call if she needed money. Stupid old bat left her purse at home though to her credit, she has not called a single time since she left five years ago. I just sign "For Deposit Only for the Within Named Payee" on the back of her Social Security checks and deposit them in to out joint account.
    You'd think the selfish witch would at least send me a post card from time to time but she is too busy living it up in retirement. I just hope she is going to Church. I can take her ignoring me but not Jesus.

    Leave a comment:


  • Witch Hammer
    replied
    Re: Health Care Costs

    Originally posted by marklewis121 View Post
    Health care costs for individuals, are strongly related to age. The older one gets, the more care required.
    How so? Before I sold my mother-in-law, I just pushed her wheelchair into the foyer and let her draw off the flies. Didn't cost me a penny.

    Leave a comment:


  • marklewis121
    replied
    Re: Health Care Costs

    Health care costs for individuals, are strongly related to age. The older one gets, the more care required.

    Leave a comment:


  • Rev. M. Rodimer
    replied
    Re: Health Care Costs

    We’ve only just begun with this. The new breast and ovarian cancer screening guidelines may soon become mandatory as health care rationing kicks in.
    We can only pray that women will not be forcibly screened for breast and ovarian cancers. They only have cancers because God wills it to be so; who are we to detect and treat these cancers early by force?

    Leave a comment:


  • WilliamJenningsBryan
    replied
    Re: Health Care Costs

    Health care costs are rising as a punishment from God for turning to Darwin, atheism, and secularism. They will eventually bankrupt our once great God Fearing country unless we turn back to Jesus and the Bible (KJV1611).

    The only real HMO is God, and the only true healer is Jesus - not Obama.

    The Proposed U. S. ‘Health Care’ Law: A Triumph of Darwinism

    by Dr. Paul M. Elliott, President, TeachingTheWord Ministries

    A well-known newspaper columnist rightly observes, “This is the triumph of the humanistic, atheistic worldview. We are all to be regarded as products of evolution in which the fit and the powerful will decide our survival and worth.”

    “Health Care” — Deciding Who Lives and Who Dies

    We don’t agree with Evangelical syndicated columnist Cal Thomas on everything, especially on some critical Biblical matters. Also, we don’t usually reproduce secular newspaper columns in this space. But we’re making a rare exception today. In his November 24, 2009 column titled “U. S. S. A.”, Thomas gets to the heart of the issue on the proposed so-called “health care” legislation now moving through the United States Congress.1 The heart of the issue is the heart of sinful man.

    Thomas pinpoints the role of postmodern, Darwinian thinking in the present conflict, which is, quite literally, a struggle over life and death. The essence of this so-called “health care reform” is arrogant man’s assertion that he, not God, should determine who lives and who dies. The decision will be based on cold, bureaucratic calculation of which human lives have “value” and which ones do not. Thomas points out that the march toward this day began decades ago:

    Not all revolutions begin in the streets with tanks and guns. Some advance slowly, almost imperceptibly, until a nation is transformed and the public realizes too late that their freedoms are gone.

    Such is the revolution now taking place in America. The ’60s crowd has emerged from the ideological grave and is about to impose on this country a declaration of dependence in the form of government-run health insurance and treatment. It matters not what facts are known about this “coup,” because to those from the ’60s — whether they lived in that decade or were born later and adopted its ideology — only feelings and intentions matter, not truth and results.

    He then describes how this will work:

    If you are a doctor who has spent a lot of money and time becoming a responsible and caring physician, the government will tell you how much to charge your patients and, in fact, whether you will be allowed to treat them at all. Bureaucrats, having given themselves the power of God, will decide whether a patient is worth the cost of treatment, thereby deciding who lives and who dies [and]…taxpayers will be forced to underwrite abortions in violation of the consciences and faith of the majority.

    He then pinpoints the true, Darwinian nature of what is about to happen in America, apart from God’s mercy:

    This is the triumph of the humanistic, atheistic worldview. We are all to be regarded as products of evolution in which the fit and the powerful will decide our survival and worth. . . .

    We’ve only just begun with this. The new breast and ovarian cancer screening guidelines may soon become mandatory as health care rationing kicks in. The unwanted, the inconvenient and the “burdensome” could soon be dispatched with a pill, or through neglect.

    Great horrors don’t begin in gas chambers, killing fields, or forced famines. They begin when there is a philosophical shift in a nation’s leadership about the value of human life.

    God’s Warning to the Nations

    Clearly, that philosophical shift began long ago. As we have said many times before, the Word of God lost its influence in society and government because it first lost its influence in the church. The ’60s crowd, as Thomas describes them — people who grew up without the influence of the Bible because of the decline of the church — are now on the verge of having life-and-death power over the entire United States population, shaking their puny fists at the God of the universe.

    God warned Israel against turning away from His Word. As Israel disobeyed God it descended into a pagan disregard for human life, even to the point of sacrificing its own children, to say nothing of its neglect of the poor, the needy, and the aged. The warning still stands for America today. We are seeing God’s hand carry it out in many ways, but most Americans, even most Christians, do not seem to grasp what God is doing:

    So you shall not turn aside from any of the words which I command you this day, to the right or the left, to go after other gods to serve them. But it shall come to pass, if you do not obey the voice of the Lord your God, to observe carefully all His commandments and His statutes which I command you today, that all these curses will come upon you and overtake you: Cursed shall you be in the city, and cursed shall you be in the country. Cursed shall be your basket and your kneading bowl. Cursed shall be the fruit of your body and the produce of your land, the increase of your cattle and the offspring of your flocks. Cursed shall you be when you come in, and cursed shall you be when you go out. The Lord will send on you cursing, confusion, and rebuke in all that you set your hand to do, until you are destroyed and until you perish quickly, because of the wickedness of your doings in which you have forsaken Me. (Deuteronomy 28:14-20)



    Leave a comment:


  • Rev. M. Rodimer
    replied
    Re: Health Care Costs

    GTSoup -

    Since you already have your own long-winded answer, why are you asking us?

    If you want a real answer, here you go:

    1. Obesity. People sit on their fat behinds, eating garbage, and staring at the TV all day. They have low income, thus have no insurance. Our liberal laws require hospitals to eat the cost when these lazy slobs waddle in for an emergency bypass operation, to the tune of $100K or more, and then immediately declare bankruptcy so they don't have to pay the bill. Those costs get passed along to everyone else.

    2. Frivolous lawsuits. People sue every chance they get, for as much as they can get, always looking for a free ride. They, like you, think that overworked doctors are "negligent" because they made a mistake, and should be responsible not just for correcting an error but for setting the litigant up for life with millions in "punitive damages". Malpractice insurance costs a fortune.

    3. Regulations. The new health care disaster has INCREASED health insurance costs for small businesses. Instead of offering a catastrophic care policy, they're now forced to offer comprehensive health care. Some companies, like McDonald's, are simply DROPPING health insurance coverage for their part-time employees, because these plans are no longer acceptable under Obamacare . . . and full coverage would cost more than the employees earn in wages.

    But I'm sure you won't consider any of those issues. It's all rich people being greedy, right?

    By the way, the US has the most advanced medicine in the world because the people who put up billions of their private dollars for research and development -- much of which goes down the drain when drugs fail -- are able to earn a return on the investment.

    Leave a comment:


  • barton
    replied
    Re: Health Care Costs

    Originally posted by Glorious Tortoise Soup View Post
    deleted
    I hadn't read this hateful post of yours prior to replying to your original. You are clearly not here to do anything except mock Jesus and insult Christianity.

    Repent now or come Judgment, you will stand in utter shame and terror before God. It will be too late for forgiveness then and you will be cast down to burn forever in Hell.

    Leave a comment:


  • barton
    replied
    Re: Health Care Costs

    Originally posted by Glorious Tortoise Soup View Post
    We have spent a significant amount of time researching and scouring the internet for possible answers without any success.
    ...
    What is causing health care costs to increase so significantly in the U.S.?
    There are two major areas to explore here.

    First is the very important distinction between per-treated-patient costs and per-paying-patient costs. As more and more people are treated without proper payment, more and more burden is shifted to those that actually do pay. The socialization of our healthcare system has been happening slowly for decades, current rapid changes notwithstanding. Many different things contribute to the problem: over-regulation, medicare underpayments, etc.

    The other area involves the abject extravagance found throughout the entire field. There are many, many examples of this involving unnecessary treatments, medications, operations, studies, insurances, equipment, etc. Even Obamacare recognizes this somewhat but, in typical communist fashion, seeks to deny everyone via death panels.

    Leave a comment:

Working...