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You are no doubt referring to the First Law of Thermodynamics, which states that no energy can be created or destroyed. That was determined by experiments that all took place within the last 150 years, so they have no validity whatsoever to the moment of creation. The Second Law of Thermodynamics says that disorder (entropy) always increases. If that law is true, and the universe has an infinite age, then at some point in time (call it T) there must have been no entropy whatsoever. But that means that there must have been no increase in entropy from any earlier time to time T, so the Second Law could not be correct! If anything, termodynamics proves that the universe was created. You might want to read up on the subject before you go around making a fool of yourself talking about it. As for God, since He is omnipotent, laws of thermodynamics do not apply to Him. In fact, those laws were also His creations. Quote:
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And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night. And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day... Quote:
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So, Sacha, how's that list of papers on global warming coming along? I'm looking forward to our informed, scientific debate. |
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According to one of my congregants, who is a well respected theoretical physicist, there is considerable evidence (based on the thermodymics of black holes) that the universe is indeed two dimensional, with the third dimension serving merely as an illusion. This is known as the holographic principle, and plays an important role in many formulations of string theory. I wouldn't dismiss the Biblical view of a 2D universe as silly when many of the world's top physicists consider it to be a very real possibility. |
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Why was your mission was transporting thorium? On second thought, I don't think I want to know. |
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for if an earthquake happened, wouldn't that send more water over the edge due to the force of the earth on the water and thereby decrease the water level until the water reappears, however you explain that. |
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I looked to help you with your search for your “question about light” and I saw a whole bunch of illuminating answers. There is an excellent post by Brother Ahimaaz Smith, who has more patience than I and a deep knowledge of these things, and who shows you the Truth, The Way and The Light. Why you can’t just see that your questions are those of the cracked pitcher going to the well, I’ll probably never know. However, you seem still to be in the darkness… I’m beginning to think you are just a wilful retard with a good spell-checker… and I will have an attempt to explain in far simpler terms. You seem big on stars (or you think you are). See out there, there is roughly an infinite number of stars. Now if each star were only just emitting a small amount of light, as there are infinite stars, the sky at night would be bright as day – solidly filled with stars. Does your wandering, gibbering suppositions based on hearsay and irrelevant science explain that? But, God created day and night and the moon to rule the night and, although comparatively only as bright as your brain, the night is a bit brighter than the “darkness that was upon the face of the earth.” Now if God has decided to make it night (which he created) in Australia and day (which he created) in America (which he created), then that’s a matter for him. Either you can take Brother Ahimaaz Smith’s faultless True Christian™ reasoning or you can just say that, as water is wet and the desert is not, it is night in Australia and Day in America. Either is good as neither contradicts the Bible. Anyway, why do you want to go poking your nose into the ineffable mind of The Almighty, The Lord of Hosts? He’s told you all you ever need to know in The Bible (KJV). Oh and on the question of The Sun Ruling the Day and The Moon ruling the Night and yet the moon being visible in daylight – The Queen of Britain, by the Grace of God, rules Britain and The King of The Norway, by the Grace of God, rules Norway… do you think for one moment that if the King of Norway came to Britain he would become invisible? Amen Bathfire E |
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You people never fail to make me laugh. :D |
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Your mouth will be too filled with Satan's barbed tallywhacker to even try to scoff. Besides, you will be too busy begging for mercy between anal gang-rapings by Satan & his minions to even think about us, playing badminton with Jesus and sipping wine coolers in the shade of the Tree of Knowledge.
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In physics, we understand the world around us in terms of mathematical models. For example, we can write an equation that tells us how much energy is required to stop a car of a certain weight going at a certain speed, and we can use this to design brakes for automobiles. Mathematically, objects in three dimensions can be described by equations in just two dimensions through a process called projection. It's difficult to show exactly what this means without graphs and equations, but think of it as something like your shadow--it is a two dimensional representation on the surface of the Earth of a three dimensional object (you). A hologram is a two dimensional image that looks like a three dimensional object. If you haven't seen one, look at the funny colored sticker on most credit cards. It's obviously flat, but the object looks like it has depth, too. A hologram of an object tells you a lot more about the object than that object's shadow does. This is, in essence, the holographic principle--it says that all of the information needed to describe a three-dimensional world can be condensed into just two dimensions. To be clear, I'm not saying that we can take one of our dimensions and throw it out the window (i.e., the holographic principle does not say that east and west and north and south are real, but up and down are illusions). If the principle is true, then the "real" two dimensions are constructed in a very different manner than east/west, north/south, and up/down. One trend in modern physics is to think of our universe as containing not space, time, matter, and energy, but rather information (remember, physics is about building mathematical models of the real world, and information is something that can be described easily with math). If that concept is correct, then there really could be no difference between a three-dimensional object and its two-dimensional holographic projection, so we could say that the third dimension really is just an illusion. Is the holographic principle true? It's hard to say. We certainly don't have a full-blown model of the universe that can be described holographically. On the other hand, theoretical results from the study of black holes (objects that are so massive that even light cannot escape their gravity) indicate that the information content of a black hole is proportional to the surface area of that black hole, rather to than the black hole's volume. That's a tough concept to grasp--if I told you that a balloon filled with water weighs exactly the same balloon filled to the same size with air, you'd (quite rightly) think I was crazy--but there are very good reasons to believe that's exactly the way black holes behave with respect to information. Why does this matter? On a superficial level, it doesn't--we experience the universe in three dimensions, and if it's really just a two dimensional universe of information that appears to us to be a three dimensional universe of matter and energy, what difference does that make to us? It is important to physicists, however, since it turns out that many calculations are much easier to do when we think of information in two dimensions rather than matter and energy in three dimensions. Moreover, the holographic principle is our best explanation of the way black holes work--but if it's true for black holes, it has to be true for the rest of the universe, too, including you and me. Let me add that there is currently no experimental evidence directly saying that ours is "really" a two dimensional world. There is a chance that, once the Large Hadron Collider in Europe begins operations this year, experiments will help us to see whether holographic models stand up. At the same time, there is no evidence today that would disprove the holographic principle. In summary, it may truly be that we live in a holographic universe, and we cannot abandon the hypothesis out of hand, but it would not be accurate to say that our universe has been proved to be holographic. One dominant lesson from physics in the last 100 years or so is that the way universe really works is usually far stranger than we imagine, and, any way you look at it, the holographic principle is strange. |
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Hey uh.. you guys should know that I have unfalsifiable proof the earth is round. My Uncle, Jeffrey Williams, (Kyle M. Williams typing to you now) was on the space shuttle Atlantis back in 2000. He actually showed me pictures taken from just inside the shuttle (you could see the rim of the port hole) of the earth, they were orbiting when it was taken. (really nice pictures too! )
As I don't have a scanner, I can't upload them, but I assure you from the looks of them, and the from what billions of people , more unfalsifiable proof, say, and of course thousands of scientists, the earth is in fact, round. Sorry. We have the technology now to view what our planet looks like. After all, if the earth was flat, how could satellites orbit? Or ISS for that matter. |
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Only fools, Atheists, Cathewlics, Democrats, Communists, Muslims and colored Negros would believe that the Earth is round! Ha ha ha...such heressy! Why, if the Earth were round, then Christopher Columbus' ships would have fallen off the edge when they got there during the voyages of discovery in the name of our lord. Silly people, next thing you know, they'll be claiming that man has landed on the moon...
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:haha: Q: What do you get when you cross a Unitarian Universalist with a Jehovah's Witness? A: Someone who knocks on your door for no apparent reason. |
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That was a funny joke, I liked it and there is some seeming truth to it. and truth be told, I really have been taking everyone's word that the earth is round. that leaves so many unanswered questions though |
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