[John_Richardson]

Re: An Open Invitation

You repay Jesus' great sacrifice by mocking him? He did it so that a blasphemer such as yourself could have a chance to get into heaven, but you just spit in his face.

You people really baffle me sometimes...

[Remy Lebeau]

Re: An Open Invitation

I love how adamantly you defend the claim that you are in fact a Christian, a point that would never be overlooked given the forum you are active on; that is, unless someone read one of your posts. Then it is clear you are not in any way a Christian, or a debater.

I am under no obligation to be friendly. I'd be playing with fire if I were.

2 John 1:10-11
If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

Psalm 94:12
Blessed is the man whom thou chastenest, O LORD, and teachest him out of thy law;

Hebrews 12:6
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

Friend, and I use that term lightly, this is not a debate. I cannot debate with a retard. My post is an explaination toward an individual who is clearly cursed by demons of the mind. I will chasteneth and scourgeth the poor deluded retard because of my great copacity for love.

A Christian embraces his fellow man with love and kindness, and knows that to win the mind of a person you do not engage them with hatred and bigotry. Furthermore, a real debater would never stoop to the continuous ad homina that are essentially your [b]only[b] argument.

Scriptural reference please. I don't really care about how you think a Christian should act. As the youth these days would say, "Scripture, or it didn't happen."

Are you by chance a retard as well? Where is this debate you are witnessing? Where are these arguments? Where is this hatred and bigotry you see? All I've posted in objective facts that even a 4-year old niglet from the projects could understand.

So tell me this, Mr. Perfect Debate Technique, how does your [i]explaining[i] the metaphor make it any less of a personal interpretation? Just because your interepretation is highly justified by the symbolism at hand does not make it an explicit, literal part of the text.

The Holy Spirit moves me, and all True Christians™, to correct you. There is no metaphor. The Bible is plain as day. I posted the facts.

I have a better idea. How about you demonstrate how I am wrong and how I have not stated objective facts, but instead my own personal opinion. You see, sinner, we don't interpret. We tell it like it is. Interpretation is just another word for "whatever the heck I want it to say." If the Bible were that wishy-washy what would be the point of it? How is God going to instruct mankind with a book that can be mangled and twisted into whatever each individual desired?

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

How can I correct anyone with the Bible when everyone is free to interpret it as they see fit? I bet you think we should coddle people who choose the homosexual deathstyle too? Oh, and let me guess, you interpret that women are equal to men and can be pastors? Disgusting.

Also, please explain why the KJV is the 'real' version despite coming later and changing much of the meaning by translation, and also explain why the Catholics (who are now "fake christian idiots" in your estimation) were able to correctly delineate which Gospels to include, and why Adam's sin played no part in that particular event (i.e. it is an earthly book, therefor it is corrupted by sin, QED, and we only have it on the Pope's authority otherwise...)

The Bible is a heavenly book. The bread of eternal life is from Heaven, remember. I know you're retarded and all so I'll forgive your poor memory. The Bible is inspired by God, not some work of human imagination.

Other version of the Bible are either

A.) From corrupted manuscripts from Alexandria, Eygpt. God does not speak well of Eygpt and the Bible attests to their corrupted version of God's Law. Read Acts. It is historical record that the Alexandrian scholars were satanic intellectuals headed by a demon named Origen who thought God was relative and not absolute. They and made up a false bible which is the father of other false bibles.

or

B.) Based on two flawed catlick manuscripts.

Vaticanus, which is Catlick owned and Sinaiticus are both known to be overflowing with corruption and alter boy butt sweat. It is said that Sinaiticus has been "corrected" and altered by as many as ten different ring kissers. In Vaticanus is found blatantly obvious crappy workmanship. Time and again words and whole phrases are repeated twice in succession or completely omitted as if the writters were sodomizing a young boy as they wrote. While the entire manuscript has had the text mutilated by homosexual pedophiles or bull dyke nuns who ran over every letter with a pen making even identification of characters impossible. Both manuscripts contain uninspired, unscriptural books which are not found in the True Bible®.

The KJV 1611 received its name in the 1600's. The Antiochian manuscripts (The Bible has nothing but good things to say about Antioch), which are the basis of the KJV Bible, didn't magically appear out of thin air 400 years ago. A common misconception among the mentally challenged. The collation and translation of the KJV 1611 is demonstration of God's foresight in getting the authentic Bible into as many hands as possible. Even the Dead Sea Scroll support the KJV 1611.

As far as Apocrypha is concerned, the catlicks simply removed what was obviously erroneous. Have you read the Apocrypha? They are "different", to say the least. Obviously alien in origin. We don't discount Apocrypha because the catlick's pedophile Pope doesn't like them. We discount them because:

1. None of them were written in Hebrew which was Jesus's old favorite language before Godly American. The heavenly inspired historians and poets of old wrote and spoke Hebrew.

2. None of the writers claim heavenly inspiration.

3. They did not appear until 400 years after the New Testament, yet they claim Old Testament chronology.

4. They contain ridiculous verse, many of which contradict the canonical scriptures and themselves.

5. They teach unchristian doctrine, such as lying, suicide, assassination and magical witchery.

It surprises me that a child molester supporting, idol worshipping, pantheist cult like the catlick "church" would toss the Apocrypha out. Even a broken clock is right twice I guess.

[Remy Lebeau]

Re: An Open Invitation

This was exactly my point! If you don't accept that Jesus was literally some sort of living bread-monster abomination, then there's simply no point in accepting anything that's in the Bible, because at that point you'd already be destined for Hell (if it existed).

"Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation." 2 Peter 1:20

Have fun in (non-existent) Hell, Breadmockers!

The Bible never says He is a bread monster. I proved that. The Bible clearly states, "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life." You are either more retarded than I could have imagined or being willfully vexatious!

You will show us the respect we deserve or you will be banned. I don't care if you are retarded! You will apologize for your incompetence ASAP!!

[Ravel Puzzlewell]

Re: An Open Invitation

You will show us the respect we deserve or you will be banned. I don't care if you are retared! You will apologize for your incompetence ASAP!!

I hereby apologize to you, Remy Lebeau, and all of Landover Baptist Church for taking a verse in the King James Bible literally (the verse in question being John 6:48) as opposed to interpreting it metaphorically.

Please forgive me. I guess the demons just get to be a bit too much for me to handle sometimes.

[Remy Lebeau]

Re: An Open Invitation

I hereby apologize to you, Remy Lebeau, and all of Landover Baptist Church for taking a verse in the King James Bible literally (the verse in question being John 6:48) as opposed to interpreting it metaphorically.

Please forgive me. I guess the demons just get to be a bit too much for me to handle sometimes.

Most Unsaved Trash cherry pick verses out of context. You are hardly the first willfully vexatious ingrate.

"let not the sun go down"

I am curious as to the mental gymnastics that a retard must go through to blaspheme the Word of God. What is your literal interpretation of this single statement plucked out of context and taken by itself?

Are we failing as Christians by allow night? Should we be stopping the sun from moving through the sky?

[Ravel Puzzlewell]

Re: An Open Invitation

Are we failing as Christians by allow night? Should we be stopping the sun from moving through the sky?

Ah, Ephesians 4:26. It really does explain why you Baptists are so angry about everything all of the time.

"Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:" Ephesians 4:26

Of course, I would argue that True Christians™ should be stopping the sun from moving across the sky, especially when angrily rebuking people.

"Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon. And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day." Joshua 10:12-13

All that extra daylight might even help you see any iron chariots coming your way.

"And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron." Judges 1:19

Anyways, since apparently my last apology wasn't sufficient, allow me to try again. Since I'm a retarded monkey-worshiper, I'm sure you can understand why I'd be having trouble with this.

Dear Remy Lebeau and Landover Baptist Church,

Please accept my sincerest apologies for claiming Jesus was some sort of bread-monster. Since God is the author of confusion (Genesis 11:7-9 and 1 Corinthians 1:27), I'm sure you can understand why an idiot like myself wouldn't understand when things in the Bible are metaphorical when they aren't clearly labeled as such (such as Jesus's parables). Maybe one day the Holy Spirit will guide me and help me realize just which verses are metaphorical (such as the fact that Jesus wasn't a bread-golem) as opposed to those which are strictly factual (the six-day Creation, talking serpents and donkeys, one woman damning the entire human race, the Flood and Noah's Ark, the Tower of Babel, Jesus's miracles and Resurrection, Paul fighting sorcerers, the existence of Hell and even the existence of God Himself).

Sincerely Your's,

Ravel Puzzlewell

[Remy Lebeau]

Re: An Open Invitation

Dear Remy Lebeau and Landover Baptist Church,

Please accept my sincerest apologies for claiming Jesus was some sort of bread-monster. Since God is the author of confusion (Genesis 11:7-9 and 1 Corinthians 1:27), I'm sure you can understand why an idiot like myself wouldn't understand when things in the Bible are metaphorical when they aren't clearly labeled as such (such as Jesus's parables). Maybe one day the Holy Spirit will guide me and help me realize just which verses are metaphorical (such as the fact that Jesus wasn't a bread-golem) as opposed to those which are strictly factual (the six-day Creation, talking serpents and donkeys, one woman damning the entire human race, the Flood and Noah's Ark, the Tower of Babel, Jesus's miracles and Resurrection, Paul fighting sorcerers, the existence of Hell and even the existence of God Himself).

Sincerely Your's,

Ravel Puzzlewell

You'd better hope, for your sake, that Jesus isn't confusing you. If so, you are truly lost.

2 Corinthians 4:3-4
But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

You had best hope that your mental demons are just an unfortunate set of circumstances. Then perhaps Jesus will caste the foul spirt out if your apology is sincere and you fall to your knees and beg for forgiveness.

Mark 9:25-27
When Jesus saw that the people came running together, he rebuked the foul spirit, saying unto him, Thou dumb and deaf spirit, I charge thee, come out of him, and enter no more into him. And the spirit cried, and rent him sore, and came out of him: and he was as one dead; insomuch that many said, He is dead. But Jesus took him by the hand, and lifted him up; and he arose.

Fight the demons. You do not want Jesus to get involved or the demons may have to come out the hard way (possibly out of the anus) and hurt something awful.

I'm still not feeling that your apology is sincere. You didn't even include Jesus in your apology. Why do you hate Jesus?

[Ravel Puzzlewell]

Re: An Open Invitation

I'm still not feeling that your apology is sincere. You didn't even include Jesus in your apology. Why do you hate Jesus?

Dear Jesus,

Sorry for believing you when you said that you were bread. Since I know that you never lie nor deceive (John 7:8-10), I assume that it's just one of those secret things that belong to the Lord (Deuteronomy 29:29).

Forgive me for taking you literally, Jesus!

Sincerely Your's,

A retarded monkey-worshiper.

Was that good enough for you, Remy? I hope it was, but either way, I'm off now.

[Physics!]

Re: An Open Invitation

This is an open invitation to any secualrist, cherry picking, "progressive", democrat voting false christian atheist.

Your so-called secular science is a shame. I guarantee you:

1. I can rationally and logically debunk ANY and EVERY "scientific" claim that contradicts the KJV 1611 Holy Bible.

2. I can rationally and logically debunk ANY and EVERY "scientific" claim that contradicts the KJV 1611 Holy Bible without even using the Bible (which is the ultimate authority).

3. I can rationally and logically debunk ANY and EVERY "scientific" claim that contradicts the KJV 1611 Holy Bible without even using the Bible (which is the ultimate authority), but instead letting creation speak for itself.

4. I can rationally and logically debunk ANY and EVERY "scientific" claim that contradicts the KJV 1611 Holy Bible without even using the Bible (which is the ultimate authority), but instead letting creation speak for itself by demonstrating, detail by detail, the impossibility of mainstream scientific theories.

5. I can rationally and logically debunk ANY and EVERY "scientific" claim that contradicts the KJV 1611 Holy Bible without even using the Bible (which is the ultimate authority), but instead letting creation speak for itself by demonstrating, detail by detail, the impossibility of mainstream scientific theories via common sense, objective observation, objective reasoning, objective logic and straight forward matter-of-fact experiements that you can perform in the comfort of your own home.


For too long Unsaved trash have been claiming Christians are ignorant, uneducated, superstitious fools as if we were ignorant, uneducated, superstitious idiots like the hindus, joos, mooslims, catlicks, presbyterians, scientologist,unitarians, anglicants, wiccans, warlocks, buddhists, confusionists, gnostics, lutherans, pentacostals, realians, voodoo witchers, pantheist, quakers, kabbalist, rastafarians, seeks, taoist, shintoist, pagans, neopagans, humanists, deist, agnostics, pastafarians, darwiniacs, sufis, potheads, druids, samaritans, zoroastrians, mithraist, reikist, shamanist, totemist and other assorted satanists.

Put your money where your mouth is. I will show you that:

A.) We are intelligent, rational and reasonable people.

B.) We are right.

C.) You are wrong.

D.) It is YOU who is an ignorant, uneducated, superstitious fool.

Any takers?

I'll take you up on it, provided you can use logic and sound evidence to back up your claims.

1. The Red Shift

2. E=mc^2

3. Kepler's Laws of Planetary Motion

[Remy Lebeau]

Re: An Open Invitation

I'll take you up on it, provided you can use logic and sound evidence to back up your claims.

1. The Red Shift

2. E=mc^2

3. Kepler's Laws of Planetary Motion

Slow down, sinner. One thing at a time. Once we are through with Red Shift we can move on to the others.

First of all explain to everyone, in your own words, what Red Shift is. One thing I will not tolerate is ignoramuses who do not even comprehend the theories they believe in.

Second, explain to everyone how this Theory of Red Shifting contradicts the Holy Bible KJV 1611. I said, "I can rationally and logically debunk ANY and EVERY "scientific" claim that contradicts the KJV 1611 Holy Bible."

Take care of those two little things and we can start debunking it.

[Physics!]

Re: An Open Invitation

Slow down, sinner. One thing at a time. Once we are through with Red Shift we can move on to the others.

First of all explain to everyone, in your own words, what Red Shift is. One thing I will not tolerate is ignoramuses who do not even comprehend the theories they believe in.

Second, explain to everyone how this Theory of Red Shifting contradicts the Holy Bible KJV 1611. I said, "I can rationally and logically debunk ANY and EVERY "scientific" claim that contradicts the KJV 1611 Holy Bible."

Take care of those two little things and we can start debunking it.

Red Shift Theory states that as objects move away from each other, the wavelength of light (or sound as the case may be) is shifted so as to be longer (to the red end) of the the light (or sound) spectrum.

This contradicts the bible as using the Red Shift Theory, along with being of great use in radar and sonar technology, shows that not only are the different galaxies moving away from one another in the universe, but that we aren't even in the center of the universe either. This means that the universe was not specially created by god for humans.

[James Hutchins]

Re: An Open Invitation

LOL, even I, a mere Biblical laymen, can destroy that!
First off, there are no commies in Heaven.

Next, we are at the center of God's universe. If we assume you are correct, then all distant items would have this shift as they are moving away from us. Do they? If everything exhibits this, then we are at teh center of the universe and the Bible is right again (of course).

Next, I have never heard red sound. Please provide an example of it.

Next, why would not God give us an incredible sky to view? How does that mean God did not make it for us? How is that Biblically incorrect?

[Physics!]

Re: An Open Invitation

LOL, even I, a mere Biblical laymen, can destroy that!
First off, there are no commies in Heaven.

The Red Shift has nothing to do with political ideology. Your credibility was destroyed immediately with that statement.

Next, we are at the center of God's universe. If we assume you are correct, then all distant items would have this shift as they are moving away from us. Do they? If everything exhibits this, then we are at teh center of the universe and the Bible is right again (of course).

Actually, some galaxies are moving towards us. Also, we can tell by the degree of shift the relative velocities of the other galaxies, and we can use other methods to determine their displacement from us. We are not at the center of the universe.

Next, I have never heard red sound. Please provide an example of it.

There is no "red sound". Red Shift Theory also applies to sound. If you're on the side of the road and here a siren coming towards you, it's higher pitched than it would sound if the siren were stationary. It's lower pitched when it's moving away from you. Pay attention next time a fire truck, ambulance, or police car passes you.

Next, why would not God give us an incredible sky to view? How does that mean God did not make it for us? How is that Biblically incorrect?

The Red Shift theory has nothing to do with the sky.

[Remy Lebeau]

Re: An Open Invitation

Red Shift Theory states that as objects move away from each other, the wavelength of light (or sound as the case may be) is shifted so as to be longer (to the red end) of the the light (or sound) spectrum.

This contradicts the bible as using the Red Shift Theory, along with being of great use in radar and sonar technology, shows that not only are the different galaxies moving away from one another in the universe, but that we aren't even in the center of the universe either. This means that the universe was not specially created by god for humans.

So I assume blue shifting would be things getting closer, right? I've never noticed anything take on a red hue has it moved away. And how does movement effect light? I though you secularist say matter can't move faster than light?

Anyway, how does it demonstrate that the Earth is not the center of the universe?

Sounds to me like you're saying light is a semi-solid object, behaving like a spring, and is being stretched out. A compressed spring (in its natural state) is blue (or normal?) and a stretched out spring is red. I thought you secularist think light is photon particles or some other Star Trek nonsense?



Let me get this straight. Bear with me here.

Say an object is a watergun and the light emitting from it is the water. I'm spraying you in the face. Instead the the water being directing at you in a continuous stream you postulate that it's more like a stagnant string of mucus. As the watergun backs away from you the stagnant water-mucus is stretching away like some kind of slim.

See, I'd have just figured as the object backed away the amount of water inbetween would increase as the water is being projected constantly, instead of the existing amount stretching. Please, friend, help me to understand YOUR viewpoint in this matter because you're sounding alittle retarded.

[Remy Lebeau]

Re: An Open Invitation

Next, we are at the center of God's universe. If we assume you are correct, then all distant items would have this shift as they are moving away from us. Do they? If everything exhibits this, then we are at teh center of the universe and the Bible is right again (of course).

I know right. If we aren't the center then we should be moving aloing with it and notice no difference.