An Open Invitation

[Remy Lebeau]

This is an open invitation to any secualrist, cherry picking, "progressive", democrat voting false christian atheist.

Your so-called secular science is a shame. I guarantee you:

1. I can rationally and logically debunk ANY and EVERY "scientific" claim that contradicts the KJV 1611 Holy Bible.

2. I can rationally and logically debunk ANY and EVERY "scientific" claim that contradicts the KJV 1611 Holy Bible without even using the Bible (which is the ultimate authority).

3. I can rationally and logically debunk ANY and EVERY "scientific" claim that contradicts the KJV 1611 Holy Bible without even using the Bible (which is the ultimate authority), but instead letting creation speak for itself.

4. I can rationally and logically debunk ANY and EVERY "scientific" claim that contradicts the KJV 1611 Holy Bible without even using the Bible (which is the ultimate authority), but instead letting creation speak for itself by demonstrating, detail by detail, the impossibility of mainstream scientific theories.

5. I can rationally and logically debunk ANY and EVERY "scientific" claim that contradicts the KJV 1611 Holy Bible without even using the Bible (which is the ultimate authority), but instead letting creation speak for itself by demonstrating, detail by detail, the impossibility of mainstream scientific theories via common sense, objective observation, objective reasoning, objective logic and straight forward matter-of-fact experiements that you can perform in the comfort of your own home.


For too long Unsaved trash have been claiming Christians are ignorant, uneducated, superstitious fools as if we were ignorant, uneducated, superstitious idiots like the hindus, joos, mooslims, catlicks, presbyterians, scientologist,unitarians, anglicants, wiccans, warlocks, buddhists, confusionists, gnostics, lutherans, pentacostals, realians, voodoo witchers, pantheist, quakers, kabbalist, rastafarians, seeks, taoist, shintoist, pagans, neopagans, humanists, deist, agnostics, pastafarians, darwiniacs, sufis, potheads, druids, samaritans, zoroastrians, mithraist, reikist, shamanist, totemist and other assorted satanists.

Put your money where your mouth is. I will show you that:

A.) We are intelligent, rational and reasonable people.

B.) We are right.

C.) You are wrong.

D.) It is YOU who is an ignorant, uneducated, superstitious fool.

Any takers?

[optipolar]

Re: An Open Invitation

Please debunk the "theory" of spherical Earth "via common sense, objective observation, objective reasoning, objective logic and straight forward matter-of-fact experiements that you can perform in the comfort of your own home."

[Remy Lebeau]

Re: An Open Invitation

Please debunk the "theory" of spherical Earth "via common sense, objective observation, objective reasoning, objective logic and straight forward matter-of-fact experiements that you can perform in the comfort of your own home."

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=45427

or http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showp...43&postcount=1

Perhaps you could be a bit more specific seeing as Jim already debunked the spherical earth theory I don't see the point. I could add to Jim's points, but that would be beating a dead horse. Is there something in particular that is weighing heavy on your heart?

I applaud your bravery for stepping up. With my reputation for debating excellence, most people are too afraid to challenge me. Many times, my mere presense in a thread will end it as all the atheist tards flee in terror of their lies being brought to light.

[Lost Sheep McUinnean]

Re: An Open Invitation

Admirable thread brother Remy, but I can't see much bait coming forward. YOur reputation for wiping the floor with all and sundry unsaved mops is bound to have gone before you.

Personally I wouldn't even try to argue that white was white if I were one of them!

Blessings and Goodwill - McUinnnean.

[Ravel Puzzlewell]

Re: An Open Invitation

Dear Remy,

Since all the Baptists here take every single verse of the Bible literally, then I have a question.

What type of bread was Jesus made of?

"I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world." John 6:15

Personally, I'm inclined to believe he was made of white bread, though I suppose since He was born in the Middle-East a strong case could be made that He was made of pita.

[I-Hate-Juice]

Re: An Open Invitation

Dear Remy,

Since all the Baptists here take every single verse of the Bible literally, then I have a question.

What type of bread was Jesus made of?

"I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world." John 6:15

Personally, I'm inclined to believe he was made of white bread, though I suppose since He was born in the Middle-East a strong case could be made that He was made of pita.

Ever heard of a metaphor retard? Or do you also think that a man with "the heart of a lion" has had an organ transplant from a lion with a donorcard

[Ravel Puzzlewell]

Re: An Open Invitation

Ever heard of a metaphor retard? Or do you also think that a man with "the heart of a lion" has had an organ transplant from a lion with a donorcard

Hey buddy, does John 6 explicitly say Jesus was speaking in metaphors? No.

By claiming that He was, you're adding onto the Bible, something that the Bible explicitly condemns.

"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:" Revelation 22:18

So, if you really take the Bible literally, and really believe in Sola Scriptura, then you need to accept that when Jesus says:

"I am that bread of life. Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead. This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die. I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat? Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you." John 6:48-53

That He was a bread-monster and He wants you to eat him.

[Dr. Isaiah Jones]

Re: An Open Invitation

Hey buddy, does John 6 explicitly say Jesus was speaking in metaphors? No.

By claiming that He was, you're adding onto the Bible, something that the Bible explicitly condemns.

"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:" Revelation 22:18

So, if you really take the Bible literally, and really believe in Sola Scriptura, then you need to accept that when Jesus says:

"I am that bread of life. Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead. This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die. I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat? Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you." John 6:48-53

That He was a bread-monster and He wants you to eat him.

You make yourself look like a total retard. Jesus IS God (John 10:30) and therefore He can take the form of anything he wishes. But even though God can turn himself into bread doesn't mean that he actually is bread.

[Ravel Puzzlewell]

Re: An Open Invitation

You make yourself look like a total retard. Jesus IS God (John 10:30) and therefore He can take the form of anything he wishes. But even though God can turn himself into bread doesn't mean that he actually is bread.

OK, I'll concede the point that Jesus is a shape-shifter and wasn't made of bread all the time, but that doesn't answer my original question.

At the point in time in John 6 when Jesus literally was made of bread, then what type of bread was it?

[I-Hate-Juice]

Re: An Open Invitation

"making no sense at all and being silly"

I didn´t add anything to the Scripture, and never will. A metaphor isn´t adding to something, it has a totally different definition.

I understand that it´s very hard for a person like you, who is retarded and easily provoked, to take criticism like a civilised person. Instead you resort to start blabbering random nonsense and making false accusations.

YiC
Paavali

[Dr. Isaiah Jones]

Re: An Open Invitation

At the point in time in John 6 when Jesus literally was made of bread, then what type of bread was it?

If you would actually read the Bible I'm sure you'd find the answer to this question.

[Remy Lebeau]

Re: An Open Invitation

Dear Remy,

Since all the Baptists here take every single verse of the Bible literally, then I have a question.

What type of bread was Jesus made of?

"I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world." John 6:15

Personally, I'm inclined to believe he was made of white bread, though I suppose since He was born in the Middle-East a strong case could be made that He was made of pita.

Dear Unsaved Retarded Trash,

The purpose of this thread is for atheist and other satanists to "put their money where their mouth is" and put their arrogant pseudo-scientific theories to the test. Your query has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand. Because you are clearly a retarded mongoloid I will forgive your abject stupidity and answer your overly inane question.

[28] Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
[29] Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
[30] They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?
[31] Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat.

The people demanded a sign from Jesus, in addition to His healing of the sick and dividing two loaves of bread among a great multitude.

[32] Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.
[33] For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.

Now this bread is in the form of a person; A Person who has come down from Heaven to give life into the world as opposed to death.

Note: Don't worry your retarded little head off. We're getting to the point.

[34] Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread.
[35] And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

So this bread quenches a hunger if you believe in Jesus, in what He brought with Him from Heaven. Are you starting to get it now? What am I thinking? Of course you aren’t. You're a retard.

[36] But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not.

What is it they do not believe? His WORDS perhaps?

[37] All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
[38] For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
[39] And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
[40] And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

So believing in the WORD leads to life.

[41] The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am the bread which came down from heaven.
[42] And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?
[43] Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.
[44] No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
[45] It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
[46] Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.
[47] Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.[48] I am that bread of life.

So what is the bread of life? "Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me." The Word of God, perhaps?

[49] Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.
[50] This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.

Clearly, the bread Jesus refers to is not edible bread like the bread the Israelites ate in the desert. For they ate edible bread and still died.

[51] I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

How did Jesus give His flesh for the life of the world? Calvary, anyone? Though His works to spread the Word?

[52] The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?
[53] Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
[54] Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
[55] For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
[56] He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
[57] As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
[58] This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

You must take Jesus within you. As a True Christian™, I bath in Jesus's blood and eat His succulent flesh on a daily basis. We are what we eat. He is inside us and through Him we are immortal. We do not fear death because we do not die. Where your spirit will die with your physical body and exist in a state of death in Hell, the souls of True Christians™ live on in Heaven.

[59] These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.
[60] Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?
[61] When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?
[62] What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
[63] It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Note the parts in bold letters.

[64] But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
[65] And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
[66] From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
[67] Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?
[68] Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

Do you get it now? Or is your retardation too much?

[Figg_Rinnins]

Re: An Open Invitation

I love how adamantly you defend the claim that you are in fact a Christian, a point that would never be overlooked given the forum you are active on; that is, unless someone read one of your posts. Then it is clear you are not in any way a Christian, or a debater. A Christian embraces his fellow man with love and kindness, and knows that to win the mind of a person you do not engage them with hatred and bigotry. Furthermore, a real debater would never stoop to the continuous ad homina that are essentially your [b]only[b] argument.

So tell me this, Mr. Perfect Debate Technique, how does your [i]explaining[i] the metaphor make it any less of a personal interpretation? Just because your interepretation is highly justified by the symbolism at hand does not make it an explicit, literal part of the text.

Also, please explain why the KJV is the 'real' version despite coming later and changing much of the meaning by translation, and also explain why the Catholics (who are now "fake christian idiots" in your estimation) were able to correctly delineate which Gospels to include, and why Adam's sin played no part in that particular event (i.e. it is an earthly book, therefor it is corrupted by sin, QED, and we only have it on the Pope's authority otherwise...)

[Dr. Isaiah Jones]

Re: An Open Invitation

A Christian embraces his fellow man with love and kindness, and knows that to win the mind of a person you do not engage them with hatred and bigotry.

That is not true. What you are referring to are false-Christians who follow only John 3:16 which begins as such...

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son,

However, most of these wishy-washy false-Christians overlook the rest of this verse which goes like this...

that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

False-Christians commonly ignore the fact that a part of believing in Christ is also keeping His every command...

Galatians 5:19-21 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

Finally, as righteous True Christians™ we do have the right to judge you and even hate you. How can I say that? Simple. It says so in the Bible!

1st Corinthians 2:14-15 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

Psalm 139:21 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?

Enjoy hell.

[Ravel Puzzlewell]

Re: An Open Invitation

So tell me this, Mr. Perfect Debate Technique, how does your [i]explaining[i] the metaphor make it any less of a personal interpretation? Just because your interepretation is highly justified by the symbolism at hand does not make it an explicit, literal part of the text.

This was exactly my point! If you don't accept that Jesus was literally some sort of living bread-monster abomination, then there's simply no point in accepting anything that's in the Bible, because at that point you'd already be destined for Hell (if it existed).

"Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation." 2 Peter 1:20

Have fun in (non-existent) Hell, Breadmockers!