[Jesse Raffield]

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Hello all, I was wondering if someone could help me understand something. Why can't atoms exist?

[María Gálvez-Villalobos]

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Mr Remy,

Can I just to say you one thing? My sister Montse, my freind Mari Luz ( she speak English very good, even better that me) and I have been read this thread and they want to say you how impress are they whit your way of argue and debate and destroy all the arguments have people throw up at you. And me too think this.

From us: keep the good works up you sir!

YiC, Mari & Montse Gálvez-Villalobos, & María de la Luz Eterna Saura Meseguer.

(I think you have winned a new converter to True Religion! - Mari Luz!)

[Remy Lebeau]

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Hello,

I would like to discuss nuclear weapons here. I was wondering how you think atomic bombs exist while atoms themselves do not.

If I called a bomb a Smurf Berry bomb would that mean smurf berries exist?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Hello,

I would like to discuss nuclear weapons here. I was wondering how you think atomic bombs exist while atoms themselves do not.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

[zoonswoggle]

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Hello,

I would like to discuss nuclear weapons here. I was wondering how you think atomic bombs exist while atoms themselves do not.

[Remy Lebeau]

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Next, we are at the center of God's universe. If we assume you are correct, then all distant items would have this shift as they are moving away from us. Do they? If everything exhibits this, then we are at teh center of the universe and the Bible is right again (of course).

I know right. If we aren't the center then we should be moving aloing with it and notice no difference.

[Remy Lebeau]

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Red Shift Theory states that as objects move away from each other, the wavelength of light (or sound as the case may be) is shifted so as to be longer (to the red end) of the the light (or sound) spectrum.

This contradicts the bible as using the Red Shift Theory, along with being of great use in radar and sonar technology, shows that not only are the different galaxies moving away from one another in the universe, but that we aren't even in the center of the universe either. This means that the universe was not specially created by god for humans.

So I assume blue shifting would be things getting closer, right? I've never noticed anything take on a red hue has it moved away. And how does movement effect light? I though you secularist say matter can't move faster than light?

Anyway, how does it demonstrate that the Earth is not the center of the universe?

Sounds to me like you're saying light is a semi-solid object, behaving like a spring, and is being stretched out. A compressed spring (in its natural state) is blue (or normal?) and a stretched out spring is red. I thought you secularist think light is photon particles or some other Star Trek nonsense?



Let me get this straight. Bear with me here.

Say an object is a watergun and the light emitting from it is the water. I'm spraying you in the face. Instead the the water being directing at you in a continuous stream you postulate that it's more like a stagnant string of mucus. As the watergun backs away from you the stagnant water-mucus is stretching away like some kind of slim.

See, I'd have just figured as the object backed away the amount of water inbetween would increase as the water is being projected constantly, instead of the existing amount stretching. Please, friend, help me to understand YOUR viewpoint in this matter because you're sounding alittle retarded.

[Physics!]

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LOL, even I, a mere Biblical laymen, can destroy that!
First off, there are no commies in Heaven.

The Red Shift has nothing to do with political ideology. Your credibility was destroyed immediately with that statement.

Next, we are at the center of God's universe. If we assume you are correct, then all distant items would have this shift as they are moving away from us. Do they? If everything exhibits this, then we are at teh center of the universe and the Bible is right again (of course).

Actually, some galaxies are moving towards us. Also, we can tell by the degree of shift the relative velocities of the other galaxies, and we can use other methods to determine their displacement from us. We are not at the center of the universe.

Next, I have never heard red sound. Please provide an example of it.

There is no "red sound". Red Shift Theory also applies to sound. If you're on the side of the road and here a siren coming towards you, it's higher pitched than it would sound if the siren were stationary. It's lower pitched when it's moving away from you. Pay attention next time a fire truck, ambulance, or police car passes you.

Next, why would not God give us an incredible sky to view? How does that mean God did not make it for us? How is that Biblically incorrect?

The Red Shift theory has nothing to do with the sky.

[James Hutchins]

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LOL, even I, a mere Biblical laymen, can destroy that!
First off, there are no commies in Heaven.

Next, we are at the center of God's universe. If we assume you are correct, then all distant items would have this shift as they are moving away from us. Do they? If everything exhibits this, then we are at teh center of the universe and the Bible is right again (of course).

Next, I have never heard red sound. Please provide an example of it.

Next, why would not God give us an incredible sky to view? How does that mean God did not make it for us? How is that Biblically incorrect?

[Physics!]

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Slow down, sinner. One thing at a time. Once we are through with Red Shift we can move on to the others.

First of all explain to everyone, in your own words, what Red Shift is. One thing I will not tolerate is ignoramuses who do not even comprehend the theories they believe in.

Second, explain to everyone how this Theory of Red Shifting contradicts the Holy Bible KJV 1611. I said, "I can rationally and logically debunk ANY and EVERY "scientific" claim that contradicts the KJV 1611 Holy Bible."

Take care of those two little things and we can start debunking it.

Red Shift Theory states that as objects move away from each other, the wavelength of light (or sound as the case may be) is shifted so as to be longer (to the red end) of the the light (or sound) spectrum.

This contradicts the bible as using the Red Shift Theory, along with being of great use in radar and sonar technology, shows that not only are the different galaxies moving away from one another in the universe, but that we aren't even in the center of the universe either. This means that the universe was not specially created by god for humans.

[Remy Lebeau]

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I'll take you up on it, provided you can use logic and sound evidence to back up your claims.

1. The Red Shift

2. E=mc^2

3. Kepler's Laws of Planetary Motion

Slow down, sinner. One thing at a time. Once we are through with Red Shift we can move on to the others.

First of all explain to everyone, in your own words, what Red Shift is. One thing I will not tolerate is ignoramuses who do not even comprehend the theories they believe in.

Second, explain to everyone how this Theory of Red Shifting contradicts the Holy Bible KJV 1611. I said, "I can rationally and logically debunk ANY and EVERY "scientific" claim that contradicts the KJV 1611 Holy Bible."

Take care of those two little things and we can start debunking it.

[Physics!]

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This is an open invitation to any secualrist, cherry picking, "progressive", democrat voting false christian atheist.

Your so-called secular science is a shame. I guarantee you:

1. I can rationally and logically debunk ANY and EVERY "scientific" claim that contradicts the KJV 1611 Holy Bible.

2. I can rationally and logically debunk ANY and EVERY "scientific" claim that contradicts the KJV 1611 Holy Bible without even using the Bible (which is the ultimate authority).

3. I can rationally and logically debunk ANY and EVERY "scientific" claim that contradicts the KJV 1611 Holy Bible without even using the Bible (which is the ultimate authority), but instead letting creation speak for itself.

4. I can rationally and logically debunk ANY and EVERY "scientific" claim that contradicts the KJV 1611 Holy Bible without even using the Bible (which is the ultimate authority), but instead letting creation speak for itself by demonstrating, detail by detail, the impossibility of mainstream scientific theories.

5. I can rationally and logically debunk ANY and EVERY "scientific" claim that contradicts the KJV 1611 Holy Bible without even using the Bible (which is the ultimate authority), but instead letting creation speak for itself by demonstrating, detail by detail, the impossibility of mainstream scientific theories via common sense, objective observation, objective reasoning, objective logic and straight forward matter-of-fact experiements that you can perform in the comfort of your own home.


For too long Unsaved trash have been claiming Christians are ignorant, uneducated, superstitious fools as if we were ignorant, uneducated, superstitious idiots like the hindus, joos, mooslims, catlicks, presbyterians, scientologist,unitarians, anglicants, wiccans, warlocks, buddhists, confusionists, gnostics, lutherans, pentacostals, realians, voodoo witchers, pantheist, quakers, kabbalist, rastafarians, seeks, taoist, shintoist, pagans, neopagans, humanists, deist, agnostics, pastafarians, darwiniacs, sufis, potheads, druids, samaritans, zoroastrians, mithraist, reikist, shamanist, totemist and other assorted satanists.

Put your money where your mouth is. I will show you that:

A.) We are intelligent, rational and reasonable people.

B.) We are right.

C.) You are wrong.

D.) It is YOU who is an ignorant, uneducated, superstitious fool.

Any takers?

I'll take you up on it, provided you can use logic and sound evidence to back up your claims.

1. The Red Shift

2. E=mc^2

3. Kepler's Laws of Planetary Motion

[Ravel Puzzlewell]

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I'm still not feeling that your apology is sincere. You didn't even include Jesus in your apology. Why do you hate Jesus?

Dear Jesus,

Sorry for believing you when you said that you were bread. Since I know that you never lie nor deceive (John 7:8-10), I assume that it's just one of those secret things that belong to the Lord (Deuteronomy 29:29).

Forgive me for taking you literally, Jesus!

Sincerely Your's,

A retarded monkey-worshiper.

Was that good enough for you, Remy? I hope it was, but either way, I'm off now.

[Remy Lebeau]

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Dear Remy Lebeau and Landover Baptist Church,

Please accept my sincerest apologies for claiming Jesus was some sort of bread-monster. Since God is the author of confusion (Genesis 11:7-9 and 1 Corinthians 1:27), I'm sure you can understand why an idiot like myself wouldn't understand when things in the Bible are metaphorical when they aren't clearly labeled as such (such as Jesus's parables). Maybe one day the Holy Spirit will guide me and help me realize just which verses are metaphorical (such as the fact that Jesus wasn't a bread-golem) as opposed to those which are strictly factual (the six-day Creation, talking serpents and donkeys, one woman damning the entire human race, the Flood and Noah's Ark, the Tower of Babel, Jesus's miracles and Resurrection, Paul fighting sorcerers, the existence of Hell and even the existence of God Himself).

Sincerely Your's,

Ravel Puzzlewell

You'd better hope, for your sake, that Jesus isn't confusing you. If so, you are truly lost.

2 Corinthians 4:3-4
But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

You had best hope that your mental demons are just an unfortunate set of circumstances. Then perhaps Jesus will caste the foul spirt out if your apology is sincere and you fall to your knees and beg for forgiveness.

Mark 9:25-27
When Jesus saw that the people came running together, he rebuked the foul spirit, saying unto him, Thou dumb and deaf spirit, I charge thee, come out of him, and enter no more into him. And the spirit cried, and rent him sore, and came out of him: and he was as one dead; insomuch that many said, He is dead. But Jesus took him by the hand, and lifted him up; and he arose.

Fight the demons. You do not want Jesus to get involved or the demons may have to come out the hard way (possibly out of the anus) and hurt something awful.

I'm still not feeling that your apology is sincere. You didn't even include Jesus in your apology. Why do you hate Jesus?

[Ravel Puzzlewell]

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Are we failing as Christians by allow night? Should we be stopping the sun from moving through the sky?

Ah, Ephesians 4:26. It really does explain why you Baptists are so angry about everything all of the time.

"Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:" Ephesians 4:26

Of course, I would argue that True Christians™ should be stopping the sun from moving across the sky, especially when angrily rebuking people.

"Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon. And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day." Joshua 10:12-13

All that extra daylight might even help you see any iron chariots coming your way.

"And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron." Judges 1:19

Anyways, since apparently my last apology wasn't sufficient, allow me to try again. Since I'm a retarded monkey-worshiper, I'm sure you can understand why I'd be having trouble with this.

Dear Remy Lebeau and Landover Baptist Church,

Please accept my sincerest apologies for claiming Jesus was some sort of bread-monster. Since God is the author of confusion (Genesis 11:7-9 and 1 Corinthians 1:27), I'm sure you can understand why an idiot like myself wouldn't understand when things in the Bible are metaphorical when they aren't clearly labeled as such (such as Jesus's parables). Maybe one day the Holy Spirit will guide me and help me realize just which verses are metaphorical (such as the fact that Jesus wasn't a bread-golem) as opposed to those which are strictly factual (the six-day Creation, talking serpents and donkeys, one woman damning the entire human race, the Flood and Noah's Ark, the Tower of Babel, Jesus's miracles and Resurrection, Paul fighting sorcerers, the existence of Hell and even the existence of God Himself).

Sincerely Your's,

Ravel Puzzlewell