[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: How much do you guys think I could sell my daughter for?

I believe you have too much time on your hands.

. . . says the guy who joined a Christian church's discussion forum, uninvited, to insult complete strangers for obeying God's Laws.

And you are all following King James, the books of the "bible" were written in a language that I highly doubt any one of you can read write or speak, so you are taking some guy's word for it. We are all tainted by the human element, and therefore have a personal agenda.

King James didn't write anything. He commissioned scholars to provide a modern translation.

And those translations are available even online. Google "Strong's Concordance". Read any part you like in the original language with detailed commentary for each and every word.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: How much do you guys think I could sell my daughter for?

You take King James word for it that Moses was speaking on behalf of God.

Answer me this question friend; why should we bother replying to a twit like you who can't be bothered to read anything we post or who is so utter smug in their ignorant they are incapable of the simplest acts of reasoning?

Old Testament = Torah

The Torah the Jewish Holy Book, The Jews have said the King James Translation is correct. Look it up yourself, you lazy slob, if you don't believe me.

Honestly friend, l as a TRUE Christian I couldn't' give a shit that you choose to damn yourself as a unbeliever. But I will not let you lie in our Church forum about the message of God.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: How much do you guys think I could sell my daughter for?

This is real? People still live in the stone age. WTF!! Is wrong with you people!! Do you have no morals?

Why do, we have the morality God calls for.

What is your problem?

[Da Fugly Fool]

Re: How much do you guys think I could sell my daughter for?

Allow me to lay this out for you logically. You atheists claim to like logic, right?

Here we go:

The Bible is presented as being the Word of God. Right?

And God is all-powerful, and all-knowing. Right?

Right!

So that means that God knows exactly what the Bible says, and could change every copy in the world in an instant if it wasn't what He wanted it to say. Isn't that so?

Of course it is!

The Bible says what it says. Therefore, either:

• The Bible says what God wants it to say;
• God doesn't know or isn't able to fix it;
• God doesn't care what we think and likes watching us kill each other over Him;
• God is deliberately misleading us; or
• God does not exist.

Now, which of those makes the most sense? #2, 3, and 4 all deny basic aspects of God. That leaves #1 and #5. Since we know God exists (even you atheists do, even though you deny it), the Bible must be what God wants it to be.

God's Perfection has nothing to do with your secular humanist modern ideas of right and wrong. God is the arbiter of morality; if He wants someone to get sick, or raped, or tortured, then that is what happens. If He doesn't want it to happen, it doesn't happen.

Pretty simple, really.

You think it farfetched, but I bet you believe in "karma".

Why would something or someone want an innocent child to be raped, tortured, killed or all the above? If that is what God wants then I want no part of God because he/she/it is just as sick as the rest.

[Didymus Much]

Re: How much do you guys think I could sell my daughter for?

Why would something or someone want an innocent child to be raped, tortured, killed or all the above?...

How do you know she's so innocent? Btw, do you believe in karma?

...If that is what God wants then I want no part of God because he/she/it is just as sick as the rest.

So you'll be leaving now. Bye!

[Tihsllubsinoigiler]

Re: How much do you guys think I could sell my daughter for?

Originally Posted by Levi Jones
This darn Obama depression is affecting our family horribly. Since we moved to Freehold, we haven't been able to sell our beautiful six bedroom house on a 1/10th acre plot in Arizona. The bank is about to foreclose on it. I have already asked the church, but they are feeling the pinch too. Pastor Zeke's Christmas gift is only going to be in the 20 thousand dollar range this year.
Are you serious? Do you realize that the average person only makes maybe 10k more than this in an average year? I mean talk about first world problems!!! Sell your daughter?



It's fortunate that my daughter just turned 13. She needs to be betrothed anyway.
You sir are a sad piece of work.
How much do you guys think I could get for her?
I reiterate above comment.

She, is of course a virgin. The tokens of virginity will be there on your wedding night when she reaches the age of consent or you can stone her as per Deuteronomy 22:13-21.You cannot be serious. have you ever seen someone stoned to death? You joke when people like you and the others in this forum can kid about this?

She is a decent cook, but lazy about cleaning. It's my wife's fault for that. I'm sure if you have a strong steady hand for keeping her in line, she can be encouraged to get better. Lets set womens movement back about 50 years.

Any serious bids from True Christians will be considered. What a joke. TRUE christians wouldnt give you a DIME for her.

You can't make her work out in the field. If you buy her for a wife you have to provide for her for the rest of her natural life, so please don't take this lightly. If you are buying her for your son, please make sure he likes her because otherwise you cannot return her.Mmmmmm...can taste the slavery on my lips.

Exodus 21:7-10 And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.
If she please not her master, who has betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he has dealt deceitfully with her.
And if he has betrothed her unto his son, he shall deal with her after the manner of daughters.
If he takes him another wife; her food, her clothing, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish.Oh I'm sorry...the way I am reading you are Baptist right? How about what follows? 10 When you go to war against your enemies and the Lord your God delivers them into your hands and you take captives, 11 if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife. 12 Bring her into your home and have her shave her head, trim her nails 13 and put aside the clothes she was wearing when captured. After she has lived in your house and mourned her father and mother for a full month, then you may go to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife. 14 If you are not pleased with her, let her go wherever she wishes. You must not sell her or treat her as a slave, since you have dishonored her. Do you support MULTIPLE marriages as well? Last time I checked...that wasnt in my old baptist church going experience. you cant pick and choose verses to fit your situations.

God Bless,
Levi

What you are doing is horrible. I am embarrassed to have served in the military and protected people like you to have religious rights and be free from oppression and ridicule. While I cant KEEP you from doing this, I can express how saddened I am that someone would sell their daughter out of pure GREED.

[Da Fugly Fool]

Re: How much do you guys think I could sell my daughter for?

Why do, we have the morality God calls for.

What is your problem?

My problem is that you people think it is ok for someone to not take personal responsibility for their family. You think it is ok to sacrifice your children for your own financial gain, when it should be the other way around. You have quoted me on everything but this. How can you justify the original poster not being man enough to take personal responsibility and sacrifice his lifestyle over his child. Am I correct when I say you can't take money with you when your dead and you are all worried about your personal salvation over everything, so why does money matter so much that you would let go your own flesh and blood?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: How much do you guys think I could sell my daughter for?

Why would something or someone want an innocent child to be raped, tortured, killed or all the above? If that is what God wants then I want no part of God because he/she/it is just as sick as the rest.

How should I know why God wants something?

I can't read His mind!

But if God is all-powerful and all-knowing, then that means every single thing that happens must logically be His Will. Children starving in Africa, or being raped by Catholics in Poughkeepsie. God knows, God can change it, God chooses not to.

Everything is God's Will.

Once again, though, you try to apply your modern, secular humanist "feel-good values" to God. Sorry, He's not subject to your narrow human ideas of good and evil.

[Da Fugly Fool]

Re: How much do you guys think I could sell my daughter for?

Originally Posted by Levi Jones
This darn Obama depression is affecting our family horribly. Since we moved to Freehold, we haven't been able to sell our beautiful six bedroom house on a 1/10th acre plot in Arizona. The bank is about to foreclose on it. I have already asked the church, but they are feeling the pinch too. Pastor Zeke's Christmas gift is only going to be in the 20 thousand dollar range this year.
Are you serious? Do you realize that the average person only makes maybe 10k more than this in an average year? I mean talk about first world problems!!! Sell your daughter?



It's fortunate that my daughter just turned 13. She needs to be betrothed anyway.
You sir are a sad piece of work.
How much do you guys think I could get for her?
I reiterate above comment.

She, is of course a virgin. The tokens of virginity will be there on your wedding night when she reaches the age of consent or you can stone her as per Deuteronomy 22:13-21.You cannot be serious. have you ever seen someone stoned to death? You joke when people like you and the others in this forum can kid about this?

She is a decent cook, but lazy about cleaning. It's my wife's fault for that. I'm sure if you have a strong steady hand for keeping her in line, she can be encouraged to get better. Lets set womens movement back about 50 years.

Any serious bids from True Christians will be considered. What a joke. TRUE christians wouldnt give you a DIME for her.

You can't make her work out in the field. If you buy her for a wife you have to provide for her for the rest of her natural life, so please don't take this lightly. If you are buying her for your son, please make sure he likes her because otherwise you cannot return her.Mmmmmm...can taste the slavery on my lips.

Exodus 21:7-10 And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.
If she please not her master, who has betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he has dealt deceitfully with her.
And if he has betrothed her unto his son, he shall deal with her after the manner of daughters.
If he takes him another wife; her food, her clothing, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish.Oh I'm sorry...the way I am reading you are Baptist right? How about what follows? 10 When you go to war against your enemies and the Lord your God delivers them into your hands and you take captives, 11 if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife. 12 Bring her into your home and have her shave her head, trim her nails 13 and put aside the clothes she was wearing when captured. After she has lived in your house and mourned her father and mother for a full month, then you may go to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife. 14 If you are not pleased with her, let her go wherever she wishes. You must not sell her or treat her as a slave, since you have dishonored her. Do you support MULTIPLE marriages as well? Last time I checked...that wasnt in my old baptist church going experience. you cant pick and choose verses to fit your situations.

God Bless,
Levi

What you are doing is horrible. I am embarrassed to have served in the military and protected people like you to have religious rights and be free from oppression and ridicule. While I cant KEEP you from doing this, I can express how saddened I am that someone would sell their daughter out of pure GREED.

I wish I had more of your perspective, unfortunately I have only been exposed to the brainwashed baptist's ideas just like the ones found here. Because of that I have been turned off completely from religion.

[Da Fugly Fool]

Re: How much do you guys think I could sell my daughter for?

How should I know why God wants something?

I can't read His mind!

But if God is all-powerful and all-knowing, then that means every single thing that happens must logically be His Will. Children starving in Africa, or being raped by Catholics in Poughkeepsie. God knows, God can change it, God chooses not to.

Everything is God's Will.

Once again, though, you try to apply your modern, secular humanist "feel-good values" to God. Sorry, He's not subject to your narrow human ideas of good and evil.

You are off topic and have drawn me there as well, clever christian. Point is, the idiot who posted this thread won't give up his lifestyle for his child, what a poor excuse of a man he is, and you people encourage him. And its for financial gain, but if you are a True Christian money wouldn't matter because your only concerned about going to heaven or hell. BTW I do not believe in Karma.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: How much do you guys think I could sell my daughter for?

You are off topic and have drawn me there as well, clever christian. Point is, the idiot who posted this thread won't give up his lifestyle for his child, what a poor excuse of a man he is, and you people encourage him. And its for financial gain, but if you are a True Christian money wouldn't matter because your only concerned about going to heaven or hell. BTW I do not believe in Karma.

How am I off topic when responding to your direct question?



How is someone an idiot for asking for a dowry for his well-of-age daughter? Is he an idiot because he doesn't share your secular humanist "values"? Is that what you liberals call "tolerance"?

I'm glad you don't believe in karma. You'd be surprised how many so-called atheists believe that there is a universal intelligence sitting around handing out brownie points for good deeds.

[Da Fugly Fool]

Re: How much do you guys think I could sell my daughter for?

How am I off topic when responding to your direct question?



How is someone an idiot for asking for a dowry for his well-of-age daughter? Is he an idiot because he doesn't share your secular humanist "values"? Is that what you liberals call "tolerance"?

I'm glad you don't believe in karma. You'd be surprised how many so-called atheists believe that there is a universal intelligence sitting around handing out brownie points for good deeds.

Blah blah blah, fact is, the guy is weak and won't give up his "secular" needs. I notice no one will touch this point. You can mask it however you want even call it a dowry, still doesn't change the fact that he is weak. Am I incorrect that we cannot take money with us when we die, and that if saving our souls is so important then, money does not matter?

[Deathqueen]

Re: How much do you guys think I could sell my daughter for?

Agreed.

If your religion is so important to you, then material things like MONEY wouldn't matter, you can't take it with you when you die. As I previously stated, I would sacrifice my lifestyle for my child, not sacrifice my child for my lifestyle. If the original poster is an unfit parent then give your child to someone else, do not market them for your own personal gain.

If someone tries to stop you in the pursuit of happiness and life defend yourself. If you have the power to stop someone trying to stop someone else in there pursuit of happiness and life do it. Only if it does not conflict in any others pursuit for these rules or yours. Live long and prosper Mankind!! These type of people shall inherit this dying earth. You can not pray a ship into space. Science will keep mankind going not religion. When we leave you can have this shit rock and your beliefs.

[Da Fugly Fool]

How much do you guys think I could sell my daughter for?

You are all stupid to think that you can price a life, how much money is your life worth? You were all someone's child once, how much were you worth then and how much are you worth now?

[Didymus Much]

Re: How much do you guys think I could sell my daughter for?

...Do you support MULTIPLE marriages as well?...

God does (according to the Bible, see Solomon with 300 wives and 700 concubines), so you do the math.

...Last time I checked...that wasnt in my old baptist church going experience. you cant pick and choose verses to fit your situations...

Then it was your old baptist church that was doing the picking and choosing, right?