[Meek and Humble]

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Who was Abijam's mother?

1 Kings 15:1-2 Now in the eighteenth year of king Jeroboam the son of Nebat reigned Abijam over Judah. Three years reigned he in Jerusalem. And his mother's name was Maachah, the daughter of Abishalom.

2 Chronicles 13:1-2 Now in the eighteenth year of king Jeroboam began Abijah to reign over Judah. Three years reigned he in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Michaiah the daughter of Uriel.

So what's up? Does the Bible say in one place tht Abijam's mother was Maachah and in another place that his mother was Michaiah?


No, because obviously Maachah/Michaiah was known by two different names, and Abishalom is her grandfather while Uriel is her father.

[Bob4God]

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Sometimes, people misunderstand GOD's intentions for the saved and the damned.

Does GOD want everyone to be saved, or does He want to send some to Hell?

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. - 2 Peter 3:9

The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil. - Proverbs 16:4

These two verses do not contradict each other.

GOD does want everyone to be saved, but He created Hell specifically for the purpose of torturing the damned. He has to have someone to put in Hell, or else Hell would be a big waste!

I am glad to have gotten that settled once and for all.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat. - Genesis 8:4

And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month: in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, were the tops of the mountains seen. - Genesis 8:5

A lot of people who are weak in faith wonder how the Ark came to rest upon the mountains of Ararat in the seventh month of its voyage if the tops of mountains didn't emerge from the flood until the tenth month.

How do we know the Ark wasn't a submersible vessel?

Brother, remember, the underside of the Ark was under water.

It could rest on the top of Mt. Ararat while the mountain was still submerged, much as a modern boat might be caught on a sandbar which is invisible beneath the waves.

[Noah Sole]

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These two verses from Exodus 33 are frequently used as an example of the Bible contradicting itself within a short space of time:

11 And the Lord spake vnto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh vnto his friend.

20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see mee, and liue.

So, the atheist scum would ask, how could the Lord speak to Moses face to face and yet the Lord says 'Thou canst not see my face'.

Easy - when the Lord was speaking Moses had his eyes shut in awe and veneration!.

[Meek and Humble]

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In whose name is baptism to be performed?

Matthew 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.


Acts 2:38Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ. (also Acts 8:16, Acts 10:48, Acts 19:5)


No, because obviously the Trinity is God and Jesus is God, and since there is only one God you're really saying the same thing in either case.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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How old was Jehoiachin when he began to reign, and how long did he reign?

2 Kings 24:8: Jehoiachin [was] eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name [was] Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.

2 Chron. 36:9: Jehoiachin [was] eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did [that which was] evil in the sight of the LORD.

The obvious answer is that he ascended to the throne twice (and messed it up both times).

[Noah Sole]

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How old was Jehoiachin when he began to reign, and how long did he reign?

2 Kings 24:8: Jehoiachin [was] eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name [was] Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.

2 Chron. 36:9: Jehoiachin [was] eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did [that which was] evil in the sight of the LORD.

The obvious answer is that he ascended to the throne twice (and messed it up both times).

Well Bill Clinton did it, it's hardly unusual. Hopefully Mitt will save us from Obama following in his footsteps.

YIC

[Kitchen Keepin]

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Oh these so-called "contradictions" just make my head spin!! Such silliness!

Can't we just do as God commands and know in our hearts that the Bible is the divine inspired inerrant Word?

Hearts think better than brains do.

[Meek and Humble]

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Did Jesus baptize anyone?

John 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.

John 4:2 Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples.

So what's up? Does the Bible say in one place that Jesus baptized, but in another that he didn't?


No, because obviously in the first verse, it doesn't say Jesus baptized people. It just says he baptized. That could mean anything.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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From whom did David buy the threshing floor, and how much did he pay?

2 Samuel 24:18-25: And Gad came that day to David, and said unto him, Go up, rear an altar unto the LORD in the threshingfloor of Araunah the Jebusite. And David, according to the saying of Gad, went up as the LORD commanded. And Araunah looked, and saw the king and his servants coming on toward him: and Araunah went out, and bowed himself before the king on his face upon the ground. And Araunah said, Wherefore is my lord the king come to his servant? And David said, To buy the threshingfloor of thee, to build an altar unto the LORD, that the plague may be stayed from the people. And Araunah said unto David, Let my lord the king take and offer up what [seemeth] good unto him: behold, [here be] oxen for burnt sacrifice, and threshing instruments and [other] instruments of the oxen for wood. All these [things] did Araunah, [as] a king, give unto the king. And Araunah said unto the king, The LORD thy God accept thee. And the king said unto Araunah, Nay; but I will surely buy [it] of thee at a price: neither will I offer burnt offerings unto the LORD my God of that which doth cost me nothing. So David bought the threshingfloor and the oxen for fifty shekels of silver. And David built there an altar unto the LORD, and offered burnt offerings and peace offerings. So the LORD was intreated for the land, and the plague was stayed from Israel.

1 Chron. 21:18-27: Then the angel of the LORD commanded Gad to say to David, that David should go up, and set up an altar unto the LORD in the threshingfloor of Ornan the Jebusite. And David went up at the saying of Gad, which he spake in the name of the LORD. And Ornan turned back, and saw the angel; and his four sons with him hid themselves. Now Ornan was threshing wheat. And as David came to Ornan, Ornan looked and saw David, and went out of the threshingfloor, and bowed himself to David with [his] face to the ground. Then David said to Ornan, Grant me the place of [this] threshingfloor, that I may build an altar therein unto the LORD: thou shalt grant it me for the full price: that the plague may be stayed from the people. And Ornan said unto David, Take [it] to thee, and let my lord the king do [that which is] good in his eyes: lo, I give [thee] the oxen [also] for burnt offerings, and the threshing instruments for wood, and the wheat for the meat offering; I give it all. And king David said to Ornan, Nay; but I will verily buy it for the full price: for I will not take [that] which [is] thine for the LORD, nor offer burnt offerings without cost. So David gave to Ornan for the place six hundred shekels of gold by weight. And David built there an altar unto the LORD, and offered burnt offerings and peace offerings, and called upon the LORD; and he answered him from heaven by fire upon the altar of burnt offering. And the LORD commanded the angel; and he put up his sword again into the sheath thereof.

The Jebusite went by two names, just as people variously address me as Isaac and Pastor Peters. The two amounts were for different parts of the transaction, namely, the threshing floor and the oxen versus the real estate that the threshing floor occupied.

[Pastor Rune Enoe]

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A lot of stupid atheists don't even understand what the Bible means when it gives three different accounts of JESUS' last words before dying on the cross.

And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? - Matthew 27:46

And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost. - Luke 23:46

When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. - John 19:30

So which were the actual, last words of JESUS?

They all were, duh!

If JESUS is GOD and GOD can be everywhere at once, why can't He say three things at once?

Why not? God can speak once and yet be heard twice:

Psalm 62:11 God hath spoken once; twice have I heard this; that power belongeth unto God.

So why shouldn't Jesus be heard thrice? That power belongeth unto God.

[Pastor Rune Enoe]

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Did Jesus baptize anyone?

John 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.

John 4:2 Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples.

So what's up? Does the Bible say in one place that Jesus baptized, but in another that he didn't?


No, because obviously in the first verse, it doesn't say Jesus baptized people. It just says he baptized. That could mean anything.

I would say that John 4:2 simply clarifies John 3:22.

[Bobby-Joe]

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I would say that John 4:2 simply clarifies John 3:22.

I am curious if anyone has heard the Two Jesus hypothesis about the baptism? That Christ used His divine powers to temporally split Himself into the perfect Jesus who doesn't need baptism and the human, fallible Jesus who need to be baptist and accept Christ as His Savior.

It certianly would clear a lot of John up.

[Pastor Rune Enoe]

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I am curious if anyone has heard the Two Jesus hypothesis about the baptism? That Christ used His divine powers to temporally split Himself into the perfect Jesus who doesn't need baptism and the human, fallible Jesus who need to be baptist and accept Christ as His Savior.

It certianly would clear a lot of John up.

That sounds rather blasphemous. Jesus is a part of the triune Godhead, and if Jesus could "split himself into two", the Trinity would become a Quadrinity, which is plain silly.

[Levi Jones]

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That sounds rather blasphemous. Jesus is a part of the triune Godhead, and if Jesus could "split himself into two", the Trinity would become a Quadrinity, which is plain silly.

Indeed that would be insane. I believe it was Augustine of Hippo who argued that six was a perfect number as it is a multiple of 3 as in the Trinity.

When reflecting upon the nature of three in God I see it as three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached to do otherwise is to deny the perfect number six in which such number of days did God create the heavens and the earth.