[Warner S. Davidson]

Re: Shalom

Hello all,

My name is David Rothstein and I live in San Francisco, CA. Married, 52, 3 sons and 2 daughters. I own a chain of very successful cash advance facilities. Yes, I am wealthy and Jewish. I attend Congregation Beth Emek every Sabbath.

I live by the Torah. Every word is precious and I cannot single out just one verse as a favorite.

I am not here to debate or show you why Christianity is wrong and an unnecessary complication of a simple, yet beautiful faith. Perhaps you will reach this conclusion on your own.

Please dispense with the insults and Jewish jokes; I assure you I have heard them all. I look forward to constructive conversation in what we have in common; there is much.

Shalom

Interesting, another self absorbed and self centered Joo attempts to justify their disgraceful and murderous lineage

It is most bemusing when deceivers like you start rambling and whining that "Joo's are victims", "no-body loves us", "it wasn't our fault", "we are peaceful" etc.

You seem to have forgotten that you people are the epicenter of shame and persecution in Gods great world from the time your murdered our saviour Jesus through to the 20th century

For example for the last 60 + years the great land of Germany and its people have been the subject to unwarranted innuendo, persecution and hate all because you Joo's managed to successfully publicise, exaggerate, and fabricate all manner of lies about innocent German folk.

Proud and decent Germans are enduring this unwarranted shame even today all because your Joo forebears had been exposed by the German authorities as serial tax evaders, people smugglers, and underground anti government activists. And when caught red handed by the inland revenue office then the never ending torrent of whining and denial commenced

The fact that millions of Germans were dieing and starving and were placed in special "Welfare Camps" all the consequence of this massive and crippling void in tax revenue has been conveniently overlooked by you all

Shame on you for your lies and Jesus will punish and you and you incredibly effective and relentless P.R. teams

[Lisa H]

Re: Shalom

Why have you came here to promote your killing of Jesus. You should renounce all your jewishness and become a Christian.

You people took Jesus to the Romans and left him to die to celebrate your passover. Then when the Romans offered you a chance to save Jesus you let a thief take his place.

John 18
28 Then led they Jesus from Caiaphas unto the hall of judgment: and it was early; and they themselves went not into the judgment hall, lest they should be defiled; but that they might eat the passover.
39 But ye have a custom, that I should release unto you one at the passover: will ye therefore that I release unto you the King of the Jews?
40 Then cried they all again, saying, Not this man, but Barabbas. Now Barabbas was a robber.

[Choir Girl]

Re: Shalom

One thing we are commanded to do on the Sabbath is read, study and discuss the Torah (as well as the Talmud). That is why I am here today. To attempt to discuss the books of the Bible that both monotheisms absolutely agree on, with no success thus far.

My introduction was polite and respectful, yet I have been "infracted" for "reading the wrong Bible and wearing a funny hat". I've been called a "shylock" and a "Joo". I'm hoping we can get beyond the infantile behavior and discuss the Torah as educated adults. Or is it a mistake to assume that any of you are educated?

Shalom

David, perhaps you should consider educating yourself first with a well worn and fully sticky noted KJV Bible in your own closet before you show your ignorance here.

[Joshua Godwins]

Re: Shalom

Hello all,

My name is David Rothstein and I live in San Francisco, CA. Married, 52, 3 sons and 2 daughters. I own a chain of very successful cash advance facilities. Yes, I am wealthy and Jewish. I attend Congregation Beth Emek every Sabbath.

Wealthy and Jewish? That isn't surprising. A chain of Cash Advance facilities? So you're a loan shark, how Godly is that? May I remind you of this?

Leviticus 25: 35-37

35And if thy brother be waxen poor, and fallen in decay with thee; then thou shalt relieve him: yea, though he be a stranger, or a sojourner; that he may live with thee.
36Take thou no usury of him, or increase: but fear thy God; that thy brother may live with thee.
37Thou shalt not give him thy money upon usury, nor lend him thy victuals for increase.

I live by the Torah. Every word is precious and I cannot single out just one verse as a favorite.

I have already proven that you do not live by the Torah. Obviously this verse is not among your favorites.


Exodus 22:25

25If thou lend money to any of my people that is poor by thee, thou shalt not be to him as an usurer, neither shalt thou lay upon him usury.

I am not here to debate or show you why Christianity is wrong and an unnecessary complication of a simple, yet beautiful faith. Perhaps you will reach this conclusion on your own.

So you come to this Godly Christan forum to deliberately do the work of Satan?

Please dispense with the insults and Jewish jokes; I assure you I have heard them all. I look forward to constructive conversation in what we have in common; there is much.

You have nothing in common with us. We will be spending eternity in Heaven with Jesus, while you will be burning in Hell!

Shalom

Have a nice day!

[Choir Girl]

Re: Shalom

And while you’re in the closet, check the pins in your little hat, they’re too tight.

[David Rothstein]

Re: Shalom

The ignorance of the Jewish faith and our history is astounding. Is everyone here a mouth-breathing hate monger?

1.) Those of you that are so fond of Deutschland are fortunate that you do not reside there. Such callous dismissal of the Nazi atrocities is against the law and Germans have been incarcerated for statements such as yours. Even Germany fully admits to the Holocaust.

2.) Kindly remove the "Christ-killing joo" moniker. Even if Jews were ultimately responsible for the death of your Christ, it is irrelevant. By Jesus' own teachings, He would forgive. And since He HAD to die to "save" you, you should be grateful to whoever nailed Him to the cross. Regardless, I as a Jew, did NOT kill him.

3.) I DO read the "KJV" bible. Many here do not seem to understand that the Torah refers to the first five books of the OT. And I read it in the original Hebrew as God had Moses write it. One of the reasons you Christians have such a hard time selling others on your religion is due to the silliness it has become in "American" English.

4.) Torah laws concerning usury only apply to transactions between Jews.
I actually charge no interest at all to my Jewish brethren. All others, being non-Jewish, represent substantial risk and are handled accordingly.

I hope we can move forward with civil discussion.

Shalom

[landoverlover]

Re: Shalom

The ignorance of the Jewish faith and our history is astounding. Is everyone here a mouth-breathing hate monger?

1.) Those of you that are so fond of Deutschland are fortunate that you do not reside there. Such callous dismissal of the Nazi atrocities is against the law and Germans have been incarcerated for statements such as yours. Even Germany fully admits to the Holocaust.

2.) Kindly remove the "Christ-killing joo" moniker. Even if Jews were ultimately responsible for the death of your Christ, it is irrelevant. By Jesus' own teachings, He would forgive. And since He HAD to die to "save" you, you should be grateful to whoever nailed Him to the cross. Regardless, I as a Jew, did NOT kill him.

3.) I DO read the "KJV" bible. Many here do not seem to understand that the Torah refers to the first five books of the OT. And I read it in the original Hebrew as God had Moses write it. One of the reasons you Christians have such a hard time selling others on your religion is due to the silliness it has become in "American" English.

4.) Torah laws concerning usury only apply to transactions between Jews.
I actually charge no interest at all to my Jewish brethren. All others, being non-Jewish, represent substantial risk and are handled accordingly.

I hope we can move forward with civil discussion.

Shalom

Now that we've each staked out our territory I'm not sure what kind of 'discussion' you're talking about. As stated before, this is not an ecumenical pajama party. We have no interest whatsoever in changing our views in the slightest degree on anything, as they are based on God's eternal Word. On the other hand, despite our Holy Charter to 'make disciples of all nations' it is clear you intend to cling stubbornly to your religion, like a tick on the backside of a lemming about to jump off a cliff.

I'm plumb tuckered out, talking-wise.

[Viggo B. Kristoffersen]

Re: Shalom

The ignorance of the Jewish faith and our history is astounding. Is everyone here a mouth-breathing hate monger?

1.) Those of you that are so fond of Deutschland are fortunate that you do not reside there. Such callous dismissal of the Nazi atrocities is against the law and Germans have been incarcerated for statements such as yours. Even Germany fully admits to the Holocaust.

2.) Kindly remove the "Christ-killing joo" moniker. Even if Jews were ultimately responsible for the death of your Christ, it is irrelevant. By Jesus' own teachings, He would forgive. And since He HAD to die to "save" you, you should be grateful to whoever nailed Him to the cross. Regardless, I as a Jew, did NOT kill him.

3.) I DO read the "KJV" bible. Many here do not seem to understand that the Torah refers to the first five books of the OT. And I read it in the original Hebrew as God had Moses write it. One of the reasons you Christians have such a hard time selling others on your religion is due to the silliness it has become in "American" English.

4.) Torah laws concerning usury only apply to transactions between Jews.
I actually charge no interest at all to my Jewish brethren. All others, being non-Jewish, represent substantial risk and are handled accordingly.

I hope we can move forward with civil discussion.

Shalom

Hello JesusKiller

How can you expect a "civil" dicussion, when you are not a civil person in the eyes of JESUS?

Were do you really think you will end up, when it's not the "Kingdom of God"?

I have a couple of clues for you:

It's very hot and painful, and the place will be full of liebrals, mooslimes, atheists and JEWS.

John 3:1-3
3:1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
3:2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

[Phebe Carlyle]

Re: Shalom

Hello Mr Rothstein,

I have been watching this thread with interest.

I just want to know as I cannot really tell by your profile-shot picture. Are you a Sephardic Jew or an Ashkenazic Jew?

Also, what differences do you personally find between the Tanakhk and the Septuagint, as far as translation itself goes.

I would be interested to hear a joo's take on this.

YIC

Mrs. Phebe Dewitt.

[Warner S. Davidson]

Re: Shalom

2.) Kindly remove the "Christ-killing joo" moniker. Even if Jews were ultimately responsible for the death of your Christ, it is irrelevant. By Jesus' own teachings, He would forgive. And since He HAD to die to "save" you, you should be grateful to whoever nailed Him to the cross. Regardless, I as a Jew, did NOT kill him.

Charming.........
So you admit to murdering Christ and you regard it as irrelevant.

Then you use the tired old defence of it wasn't actually us / me.
No wonder every second Joo is a lawyer

So based of your cowardly and simplistic logic as Charles Manson didn't actually participate in many of his atrocities but his Satanic "family" did on his behalf then he should be absolved from any responsibility or accountability.

Of course this is totally preposterous and insulting, as is your flawed and offensive justification of the murder of Jesus

God has reserved a premium location for you all in Hell

[David Rothstein]

Re: Shalom

Hello Mr Rothstein,

I have been watching this thread with interest.

I just want to know as I cannot really tell by your profile-shot picture. Are you a Sephardic Jew or an Ashkenazic Jew?

Also, what differences do you personally find between the Tanakhk and the Septuagint, as far as translation itself goes.

I would be interested to hear a joo's take on this.

YIC

Mrs. Phebe Dewitt.

Thank you for the first courteous reply I have seen.

I am an Ashkenazic Jew and a direct descendant of Polish and German Jews. This is why I find denial of the Holocaust particularly offensive.

I am fluent in Hebrew and therefore have no need for the Septuagint. The Greeks are the ones that really screwed up translations. Imagine trying to translate metaphorical and pictoral Hebrew through that mess that no one even understands today.

Shalom

[Fire&Brimstone]

Re: Shalom

The people on this site have been so nice to me and treated me with respect. But I feel sad hearing your clames and your reluctance to make the leap from your religion of hate to being a Christian. Please try and make that first step....

Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

So please try and save your self, I will help you, its not your fault. Take Jesus hand and repent your joo ways.

[Phebe Carlyle]

Re: Shalom

Thank you for the first courteous reply I have seen.

I am an Ashkenazic Jew and a direct descendant of Polish and German Jews. This is why I find denial of the Holocaust particularly offensive.

I am fluent in Hebrew and therefore have no need for the Septuagint. The Greeks are the ones that really screwed up translations. Imagine trying to translate metaphorical and pictoral Hebrew through that mess that no one even understands today.

Shalom

You are welcome for the reply. I am still trying to determine your underlying reason for being here to be frank, so just know not only Jesus will be keeping an eye out on you, Mr Rothstein.

As you claim to be a man of devout Joo faith, I am wondering why you hold no interest in the Septaugint, considering it was the joos who did the initial translation from ancient Hebrew to the Greek. Did they intentionally give false information (use wilfully deceptive ways) with intention to cull the TRUE believers from the Soothsayers? I know we True Christians here at LBC only follow the KJV1611, which is a DIRECT translation from the Tanahk, so we know the TRUTH regardless of the wiley intentions of the joos!

I also notice you are a money lender. Perhaps that has a lot to do with why you hate Jesus so.

Matthew 21:

12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,
13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.

IS that why your ancestors KILLED HIM!?


Also, how can you possibly deny Jesus considering it is CLEAR that Isaiah and Daniel (just to name a few) were obviously prophesying about OUR (Christian) LORD!

YIC

Mrs. Phebe Dewitt.

[Lisa H]

Re: Shalom

2.) Kindly remove the "Christ-killing joo" moniker. Even if Jews were ultimately responsible for the death of your Christ, it is irrelevant. By Jesus' own teachings, He would forgive. And since He HAD to die to "save" you, you should be grateful to whoever nailed Him to the cross. Regardless, I as a Jew, did NOT kill him.

I am sadden by your heartless comment about the murder of Jesus. Please take time to reflect on what Brother Warner said.

[Warner S. Davidson]

Re: Shalom

Originally Posted by David Rothstein
Thank you for the first courteous reply I have seen.

Interesting

It is a shame that your deceptive forebears were not familiar with the concept of courtesy when they performed Satans 'bidding' and took it upon themselves to betray Jesus and murder him

A little "recap" of events just for you from the KJV1611
Luke 22:3

Then Satan entered Judas, surnamed Iscariot, who was numbered among the twelve.
John 18:5

They answered Him, “Jesus of Nazareth.”
Jesus said to them, “I am He.” And Judas, who betrayed Him, also stood with them.