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[Revelation2010]

I didn't read the noob thing at first. I really wanted to know the answer about what the Bible says in one of your topics. I really want to do what Jesus says, and I had a question that is all.


I really try to abide by the rules. And I really don't want to join this forum.

I want no part of you.

I never in my wildest dreams, dreamed that there were people who called themselves "Christians", and studied the Bible, and act the way you do.

I feel sick.

It's not even worth me wasting my, or my parent's time trying to argue with you.

"If a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh, there is no rest."

Consider this my resignation.

[Cranky Old Man]

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Why do you hate Jesus? Don't you realize how much Jesus suffered for you?

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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I didn't read the noob thing at first. I really wanted to know the answer about what the Bible says in one of your topics. I really want to do what Jesus says, and I had a question that is all.


I really try to abide by the rules. And I really don't want to join this forum.

I want no part of you.

I never in my wildest dreams, dreamed that there were people who called themselves "Christians", and studied the Bible, and act the way you do.

I feel sick.

It's not even worth me wasting my, or my parent's time trying to argue with you.

"If a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh, there is no rest."

Consider this my resignation.

Thanks for persecuting us, n00b. We are blessed by your hatred.

Matthew 5:10-11 10Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Matthew 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

Matthew 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

Luke 21:17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

Romans 12:14 Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.

1 Corinthians 4:12 And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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I never in my wildest dreams, dreamed that there were people who called themselves "Christians", and studied the Bible, and act the way you do.

How are Christians who have studied the Bible supposed to act? Back up your answer with Scripture.

[James Hutchins]

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You wanted to know an answer about the Bible yet you do not ask.

You did not want to join the forum yet you did.

You want no part of Gods majesty yet here you are.

You never thought True Christians™ exist, yet we do.

You feel sick due to you hate of baby Jesus - such a shame.

Of course there is no point in arguing, this i not a debate forum, it is one where the free flowing nonjudgmental love for God is discussed.

You cannot resign, we do not allow it.

[Revelation2010]

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Ah... there is no edit button... I actually only read "page 2" for noobs. The sticky just took me to there.

I did have some Scritptual questions, (with my Dad's agreement) on what I am supposed to, in the Satanic Orgasm thread.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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So, to be sure I understand, you want nothing to do with people who follow the Bible, so here you are, posting on our forum instead of leaving.

Is that about right?

[handmaiden]

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I really try to abide by the rules. And I really don't want to join this forum.

I want no part of you.

I never in my wildest dreams, dreamed that there were people who called themselves "Christians", and studied the Bible, and act the way you do.

I feel sick.

If you are sincere about abiding by the rules, God's that is, then you will have to read the less than pretty parts of the Bible sooner or later.

You don't have to join this forum. You do have to obey God. In everything. Remember Abraham. He didn't stand there with his knife poised forever and a day. He didn't shake or hesitate. He was ready to make the killing strike. God wasn't going to present the ram until Abraham was actually going to go through with it. Abraham is our model for the obediant follower of God.

I don't blame you for wanting no part of us. Many people can't handle our level of committment. These are often the same people who mouth off about the Bible and how its central message is that God loves everybody.

Face it. The Bible's central message is Obey God.

Gee, are you feeling sick because God wiped out the children in Sodom along with the adults? Are you sick because God sent a bear to rip apart several children who were so rude as to laugh at one of His prophets? Are you sick because of the man in the second book of Judges who threw his concubine out to a crowd of men to be raped all night long until she dies on the doorstep? (I've often wondered how well he slept that night.)

You know, I once struggled with these parts of the Bible and it weakened my faith. But now, I have strengthened my resolve. God is eternal and perfect. It is not my place to judge Him by my contemporary social standards.

That is what it means to be saved.


Forthrightly Yours,

Handmaiden

[Seth Campbell]

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I didn't read the noob thing at first. I really wanted to know the answer about what the Bible says in one of your topics. I really want to do what Jesus says, and I had a question that is all.


I really try to abide by the rules. And I really don't want to join this forum.

I want no part of you.

I never in my wildest dreams, dreamed that there were people who called themselves "Christians", and studied the Bible, and act the way you do.

I feel sick.

It's not even worth me wasting my, or my parent's time trying to argue with you.

"If a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh, there is no rest."

Consider this my resignation.

Sounds to me like Jesus sent you here to try and help you become rid of these demons that make you do things you don't want to do. I suggest you get yourself a KJV1611 Bible, start reading, and find a TRUE BIBLE BELIEVING BAPTIST church to help you rid yourself of the demons.

I'll pray for you.

[Revelation2010]

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Okay, here are my Scriptual problems with you! (some...)


Firstly it is not Biblical to call someone "unsaved *trash*".

"And the servant of the lord must not strive; but be gentle to all men, apt to teach, patient,
In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to acknowledging the truth:" II Timothy 2:24-25

That's not gentle, or meek, and it causes strife.

I don't like how you insult people who don't agree with you.

"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in Heaven: for he maketh the sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sendeth rain on the just and unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans and sinners the same? And if ye salute your brethern only, what do ye more thant others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." Matthew 5:44-48

It is also unwise:
"A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger." Proverbs 15:1

You're disobeying Jesus, by cursing me. Somebody also said that I hate baby Jesus.

1. Jesus isn't a baby. He was in his early thirties when He died on the cross.
2. The Bible says what it means to love Jesus. "If ye love me, keep my commandments." John 14:15 To those of you who would insult me: I do keep Jesus' commandments, not that you would know that. I just don't believe, that these are Jesus' commandments; I believe you made them up. I came on here looking to keep His commandments, and inquire further. But all I seen people doing on here was insulting other people, who questioned that they were the ultimate authority on the matter. My Dad always told me, that if you cannot or not are allowed to even listen to something that contradicts what you believe, then what you believe is not worth believing in. The truth is not like that, it can stand all attacks. Jesus can stand up to all attacks because He is the truth. (the way, and the life, John 14:6) Why would I come to you then?

I cannot believe that you think that Jesus' precious blood is somehow not pure enough that it couldn't save an Ethiopian, or someone from Denmark. You are insulting my Lord! That they could do something so wrong, or be so evil that Jesus righteousness couldn't exceed it! That is blasphemy! Blasphemy makes me sick!

Also the statement that I don't love Him is just foolish. To say it you must believe that I have some love toward Him, because it wouldn't matter to someone who was say...a self-proclaimed satanist or something. It would be like me saying, "You don't love satan!" Obviously, that wouldn't bother you. Actually, it doesn't bother me either that you say I don't love Jesus, because it is not up to you to decide. And your bearing false witness against me, which is one of the ten commandments.

An Ethiopian was saved In The Bible!


"And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship, Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet. Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot. And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest? And he said, How can I, exept some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come and sit with him. The place of the scripture which he read was this, HE WAS LED AS A SHEEP TO THE SLAUGHTER; AND LIKE A LAMB DUMB BEFORE HIS SHEARER, SO OPENED HE NOT HIS MOUTH: IN HIS HUMILIATION HIS JUDGEMENT WAS TAKEN AWAY: AND WHO SHALL DECLARE HIS GENERATION? FOR HIS LIFE IS TAKEN FROM THE EARTH. And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man? Then Philip open his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. And they went on their way, and came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God." Acts 8 27-38
The Holy Spirit guided Philip to this man, an Ethiopian and He was saved.

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16 Every kid in Sunday school believed that if you just believed on Jesus that you would be Saved, so that is a child's interpretation of the Scripture. It doesn't say anything about your race.

"AND IT SHALL COME TO PASS, THAT WHOSOEVER SHALLL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED." Acts 2:21 Whoever calls on the name of the Lord will be Saved. It doesn't say except those who are black or are from Denmark... None of the children draw that away from it. I don't know of where the Bible specifically mentions that. I know that it does have alot to say about only marrying your own race...

"All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will no wise cast out." John 6:37

"And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature." Mark 16:15 It doesn't say, "...save Denmark. I hate Denmark, so you guys make sure you spit on people who are from Denmark." The Bible doesn't mention Denmark. It says preach the gospel to all of the world to every living creature.

"For there is no respect of persons with God." Romans 2:11 Mmmm?

Jesus never called anyone a "slut". Even when He ran into what you would call one.

Biblical Examples:

In John 4:13-27

"Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again: But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.
The woman saith unto him, Sir, give me this water, that I thirst not, neither come hither to draw.
Jesus saith unto her, Go, call thy husband, and come hither.
The woman answered and said, I have no husband. Jesus said unto her, Thou hast well said, I have no husband: For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly. The woman said unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet. Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour cometh, and now is, when true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship in spirit and in truth. The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he. And upon this came his disciples, and marvelled that he talked with the woman: yet no man said, What seekest thou? or, Why talkest thou with her?"

More explicit in John 8:1-11:

"Jesus went unto the mouunt of Olives. And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them. And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultry; and when they had set her in the midst, They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you cast a stone at her. And again he stooped down, and wrote on the groudn. And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? She saith, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemnt thee: go, and sin no more." Did Jesus condemn her? No. What did He do? Tell her to go and sin no more.

It also says in Romans 3:23, "For all have sinned, and come short of
the glory of God;" It says, all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. (*ALL*)

I have ought to say with you those who say Christians are better than other people: those of you that glory in yourself and not in God. I also have ought to say to persuade you of thinking sinners are trash.

I John 1:7-10, "But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."

David said, in Psalm 143:2, "And enter not into judgement with thy servant: for in thy sight shall no man living be justified."

Isaiah 64:6: "But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousness as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind have taken us away."

Job 25:5-6 "Behold even to the moon, and it shineth not; yea the stars are not pure in his sight. How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man, which is a worm?"

"For there is no respect of persons with God." Romans 2:11

I Corinthians 1:27-30 "But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things that are mighty; And the base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are nt, to bring to nought things that are: That no flesh should glory in his presence. But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sactification, and redemption: That, according as it is written, He THAT GLORIETH, LET HIM GLORY IN THE LORD."

Also the Bible says that Jesus did not come to save the righteous, but sinners! It says so in the Bible. Also, He ate with sinners and not with the Jewish religious leaders known as Pharisess!

Matthew 9:10-13 "And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples. And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Maser with publicans and sinners? But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick. But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I WILL HAVE MERCY, AND NOT SACRIFICE: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."

Jesus didn't damn "unsaved trash" to Hell. He left His Heavenly throne and gave up his life, for not the righteous, but sinners!

And some of you think genecide is all right. But Jesus commanded us to:

"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in Heaven: for he maketh the sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sendeth rain on the just and unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans and sinners the same? And if ye salute your brethern only, what do ye more thant others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." Matthew 5:44-48

One of the Ten Commandments is "...Thou Shalt Not Kill..."

However, God did tell people to kill people for certain things. Adultery, is one of them. But Jesus didn't condemn the adulteress in John 8:1-11 Scripture doesn't contradict! God also told Israel to kill alot of people in the surrounding countries, when they went to possess the promise land in the Old Testament. But the Bible tells us not to kill. You either believe that the Scripture contradicts itself, or that there is an explaination. They *were* at war. We *are* at war also. We *are not* the kingdom of Israel. We *are* the Kingdom of God. Who is *our* enemy? God tells us, in Ephesians 6:12, "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." Thus, we don't wrestle with flesh and blood, but against the Devil, and his devils. Also, if adulterers, were to be stoned, why then didn't Jesus stone her? I always told that they were in the Age of the Law and when Jesus came, we entered the Age of Mercy and Grace, and that God deals with people differently now. "...But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I WILL HAVE MERCY, AND NOT SACRIFICE:..." I was told things are done differently now than in the Old Testament. Do we still sacrifice animals? Or was Jesus' sacrifice enough? I surely, hope so because no flesh is justified in His sight.

I have Scripture to back up this belief: John 1:17: "For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ."
John 7:19 "Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law?..."

Romans 3: 19-20"Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall be no flesh justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin."

And in verse 23, "For all have sinned , and come short of the glory of God;"

So the above says in paraphrase, Now we know that what the law says, it is saying it to them who are under the law, so that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Thus, by what the law is, and says: no flesh will be justified in God's eyes, because the law explains what sin is. For everyone everywhere has sinned and has failed to acheive the righteousness of God. Is that not what it says?

But then in the following verse of that same chapter, "Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus."

"Therefore as by the offence of one judgement came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life." Romans 5:18

My interpretation in paraphrase: Thus by the offence of one man, [Adam (Romans 5:12 and 14 for reference of my reasoning)] judgement came upon everyone, and they were all condemned. Even so by the righteousness of one man, Jesus Christ, the free gift came upon everyone, and justfied them to live.

Romans 5:20-21: "Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righeousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord."
&
I Corinthians 15:56-57: "The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ."

Paraphrase of the above Scriptures: The law came so that offense/sin might abound. But where sin abounded, grace abounded more. That as sin ruled to death, in the same way grace may rule through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord. Grace *is* undeserved like mercy.
And sin get's its strength from the law. But thank God, because He gave the victory through us by His Son. He gave us mercy. We deserved death. Romans 6:23 : "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. A wage is something you earn, like your paycheck. By sin, which all men have done, we have earned death. God showed us mercy and offered us the free gift of eternal life instead.

The Hymnist wrote, "Mercy, Mercy! God's love, and mercy has saved both you and me. If we had gotten justice, we would surely be lost, but we found mercy when we knelt at the cross."

All of the above was written, to give Scriptual credence to my belief that God treats us differently now than in the Old Testament. The Age of the Law, vs. The Age of Mercy and Grace. And with the woman. She deserved stoning, but Jesus didn't. God isn't unjust, and the Bible doesn't contradict! That is my only explanation for those things.

Again, as Jesus said, "what thinkest thou?", (about this commandment I am asking):

"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in Heaven: for he maketh the sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sendeth rain on the just and unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans and sinners the same? And if ye salute your brethern only, what do ye more thant others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." Matthew 5:44-48

God is merciful to mankind, over and over again in the Bible. It was His Mercy, that allowed future generations to be born, instead of just destroying Adam and Eve. He even shows so many people mercy today by letting them live there lives (the ones who won't be saved), and not throwing them into Hell right away.

Jesus summed up all His commanments, and what He wanted you to do, in just two commandments:

"Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, Master, which is the greatest commandment in the law?
Jesus said unto him, THOU SHALT LOVE THE LORD THY GOD WITH ALL THY HEART, AND WITH ALL THY SOUL, AND WITH ALL THY MIND. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets" Matthew 22:37-40

Jesus said, that those two commandments summed up "all the law and the prophets", or every word of the law, and every word of the prophets in the Old Testament.


Again!:

"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in Heaven: for he maketh the sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sendeth rain on the just and unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans and sinners the same? And if ye salute your brethern only, what do ye more thant others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." Matthew 5:44-48

God told us to kill our enemies. God told us to love our enemies. The Bible doesn't contradict. I believe, what I was taught, that God want's us to act differently now. I've only seen a God of mercy in the Bible, even when He was condemning people, He held back. He let the sun shine on them, and gave them rain, and allowed them to be born.

Jesus said, to bless your enemies. I'm trying to emulate Jesus aren't I? "Herby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethern." I John 3:16 Jesus said, that the two greatest commandments were to love, and that the law, and what the prophets said hang on that. I cannot believe that what mercy I have seen God show to sinners throughout the Bible, and what I have read in His word, that God would me to hurt, or be indifferent to anyone. ,"Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another." And also again,"For there is no respect of persons with God." Romans 2:11
God is the only righteous one. And He had a right to condemn us, yet He didn't. I do not believe that He hates a certain group of people so much, that He would exclude them from His Salvation. If God did not condemn them, even that adulteress, what right have such a worm as I?"For there is no respect of persons with God." Romans 2:11
"AND IT SHALL COME TO PASS, THAT WHOSOEVER SHALLL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED." Acts 2:21
"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in Heaven: for he maketh the sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sendeth rain on the just and unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans and sinners the same? And if ye salute your brethern only, what do ye more thant others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." Matthew 5:44-48

If that is so, then the above Scriptures don't make sense. I John 4:8, says that God is love. Jesus said,"Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another."
And God said, that the whole law was summed up in two commandments, which tell us to love. And he tells us in Ephesians 6:12, "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." Don't fight with flesh and blood. Sooo.... there is no way, and nothing in the Old Testament to make me believe that God excludes people from Salvation, or that God wants me to hurt people of a different race. It *would* be contradictory.

Also, I'd assume you would delete my account because it wastes space. But it doesn't matter to me because if I didn't want to, I don't have to visit this website. But it does take up space on your system, and it is wastefulness which causes pollution. More generators to run the power, money spent on buying new servers... It destroys the earth... And God will destroy those who destroy the earth. So I wouldn't make it a habit.

[Revelation2010]

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No, I posted trying to tell you that I didn't want to be here anylonger, but I hit the post button before I was ready. The Pastor, and the other guy got me to post what I actually thought though now....

[Levi Jones]

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I will try to answer your post. You are going to have to wait a while though.

[Revelation2010]

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I will try to answer your post. You are going to have to wait a while though.

Thank you so much! It is good that your nose is in the Bible, that is where mine is most of the time! Word to the wise though, you are going to have to back it up with Scripture. I don't take your authority. I'd accept some doctrines, and some statements, but you have to give Biblical references that gives them credence. I don't need, a long dictaiton though on how Jesus is Lord! I know this already.I believe that it is good to take the literal meaning of Scriptures, and expect no less. I've been handing out pamphelets, that have the gospel on them. I make them, so that is where most of my free time goes. I also am 100% King James! For a 1611 version though, you can't do better than this:
http://www.kjv1611.org/ It is a Bible bookstore. Dr. Peter Ruckman has an actuall 1611 from the year, that it was printed. He photocopied it carefully, and sells it. So it is about as an exact replica as you can get.

I've read through the Bible many times. (did I mention that my Dad is a Preacher?) I know the Scriptures, that you quoted. I even know Ham was black, and that God cursed Him.

To some other people: I don't think you know what it means to be persecuted. I told someone once that I believe in Jesus, and they responded with a "FU B*ch!" I know missionaries who are in prison, because of preaching Jesus. A man who was a missionary to Haiti, was surrounded by witches one night, who were all trying to kill him. But the Lord didn't let that happen. I also know all of those scriptures you quoted...

To the rest of you: I can't prove that I'm saved or not possessed. But it doesn't bother me that you say it, because it only takes one person to tell if a person is or isn't and that is God. No one else matters, and you don't get to decide. I do hope to see you in Heaven, though, *when* I go, then maybe you'll believe me.

[James Hutchins]

Re: oh....

Okay, here are my Scriptual problems with you! (some...)

Firstly it is not Biblical to call someone "unsaved *trash*".

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But you are unsaved trash.

Also, being most of us are True Christians(tm) and you are not, you cannot have any problem with us.
If you do not like the scripture, you need to take that up with the big guy, God.

[Levi Jones]

Re: oh....

Okay, here are my Scriptual problems with you! (some...)


Firstly it is not Biblical to call someone "unsaved *trash*".

"And the servant of the lord must not strive; but be gentle to all men, apt to teach, patient,
In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to acknowledging the truth:" II Timothy 2:24-25

That's not gentle, or meek, and it causes strife.

Paul goes on later in his letter to tell us,

2 Timothy 4:1-2 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in Heaven: for he maketh the sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sendeth rain on the just and unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans and sinners the same? And if ye salute your brethern only, what do ye more thant others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." Matthew 5:44-48

We do love our enemies so much that we warn them that they are sinning. We want to save them from it. Now, what did Jesus teach us to do once they have rejected His Word?

Matthew 10:14-15 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

It is also unwise:
"A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger." Proverbs 15:1

You're disobeying Jesus, by cursing me. Somebody also said that I hate baby Jesus.

You are aware that Jesus didn't have anything to do with Proverbs, correct? The Proverbs are generally attributed to David. Here is another one of his sayings.

Psalm 58:610 The righteous shall rejoice when he seeth the vengeance: he shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked.

1. Jesus isn't a baby. He was in his early thirties when He died on the cross.

Sooooooooorrrrrryyyyyy! Some of us particularly like the Nativity Jesus.

2. The Bible says what it means to love Jesus. "If ye love me, keep my commandments." John 14:15

Keep the commandments. Exactly, I got it.

To those of you who would insult me: I do keep Jesus' commandments, not that you would know that.

I just don't believe, that these are Jesus' commandments; I believe you made them up. I came on here looking to keep His commandments, and inquire further. But all I seen people doing on here was insulting other people, who questioned that they were the ultimate authority on the matter.

Friend, I will try to teach you more about Jesus' commandments, but I don't think we have space or attention span to get into it depth. Just reread your Gospels and know the the OT references to them.

My Dad always told me, that if you cannot or not are allowed to even listen to something that contradicts what you believe, then what you believe is not worth believing in. The truth is not like that, it can stand all attacks. Jesus can stand up to all attacks because He is the truth. (the way, and the life, John 14:6) Why would I come to you then?

With all respect to your father, that isn't what the Bible teaches.

2 John 1:10-11 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.


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