Why hello there. Don't let my username fool you.

[John_Alvin]

Hello there, Baptists.

Some know me as HarvestmanMan, but you on these forums get the privilege (nay, the honor) of knowing me as John Calvin.

Oh, and please ignore my interests as well. I'm serious about the Christian faith, but my interests apply to other religions...such as Mormonism.

I'm Presbyterian, and I know I'm gonna get some flak for that. I don't believe that I am "atheist scum"; to say so would be the exact opposite of the truth.

I'm 16 years old and a male. I've spent 10 years in 2 Catholic schools, and I am darned sick of their teachings. Transubstantiation in particular is one thing that I find impossible to believe.

I'm against racism, discrimination on account of gender or age, or child selling or sacrifice. The first three are simply common sense, in my opinion; the last two are taking the Bible much too literally (some people refer to literal Bible-followers as "sheeple").

From what these forums look like so far, the atmosphere is not exactly conducive to new Baptists or followers of other religions. Which I don't understand. After all, isn't a church a place where you can feel at peace with others and God?


I hope it's OK if I speak out against threads like "WOMEN SHOULD NEVER LEAVE THE HOUSE!". If anyone doesn't like it, consult the principle of freedom of speech. I realize that no one might listen to me, but even so, I feel it is my duty to stand up for what I believe is right.

Thanks for reading, if you stuck around that long, and I'll be the one who goes against the majority in these forums.

John Calvin (Jesus isn't the only one whose initials are J.C.!)

[James Hutchins]

Re: Why hello there. Don't let my username fool you.

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[John_Alvin]

Re: Why hello there. Don't let my username fool you.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

1. Ah, so no freedom of speech then? I suppose that means no freedom of religion, either. Guess I'll be sticking to the majority opinion from now on...
2. Thanks for the welcome! It'll certainly be fun to talk with you all.
3. Oh, believe me, He has. Just because I'm of a different faith doesn't mean that I don't believe in Jesus; in fact, it is quite the opposite. I haven't rejected Christ in any way, shape, or form.

Apparently, the fact that I'm not of the Baptist faith means that I don't believe in Jesus. How odd. Last time I checked, I believed that He died on the cross for my sins.

[WinnerNotSinner]

Re: Why hello there. Don't let my username fool you.

From what these forums look like so far, the atmosphere is not exactly conducive to new Baptists or followers of other religions. Which I don't understand. After all, isn't a church a place where you can feel at peace with others and God?

Sure it is, but we are very selective of who is allowed in our church.

I hope it's OK if I speak out against threads like "WOMEN SHOULD NEVER LEAVE THE HOUSE!". If anyone doesn't like it, consult the principle of freedom of speech. I realize that no one might listen to me, but even so, I feel it is my duty to stand up for what I believe is right.

Friend, we are True Christians(tm), we follow the Bible how it is meant to be followed, by living every word. If you have something to say about a thread, why not post scripture which supports you?

Freedom of speech is a nice idea buddy, but GOD says women should be silent in the presence of men, so that's what they should be. (1 Timothy 2:12)

By being a presbitrayan you are following a false cult, you can read more about this in the Church Forums.

[WinnerNotSinner]

Re: Why hello there. Don't let my username fool you.

I haven't rejected Christ in any way, shape, or form.

Wrong, you choose to ignore the Bible, and by doing so you are spitting on Christ and everything Christianity stands for.

Apparently, the fact that I'm not of the Baptist faith means that I don't believe in Jesus. How odd. Last time I checked, I believed that He died on the cross for my sins.

So you're saying he died on the cross for your sins, he gave his life up for you, yet you wont follow simple scripture?! The arrogance is unbelievable.

[John_Alvin]

Re: Why hello there. Don't let my username fool you.

Wrong, you choose to ignore the Bible, and by doing so you are spitting on Christ and everything Christianity stands for.

So you're saying he died on the cross for your sins, he gave his life up for you, yet you wont follow simple scripture?! The arrogance is unbelievable.

Who said I was ignoring or rejecting the Bible?! I read the Bible quite often; however, I believe that literally acting upon everything in it is taking Scripture MUCH too far.

Also, kindly refer me to the "simple scripture" that I am apparently ignoring.

[Lycia The Repentant]

Re: Why hello there. Don't let my username fool you.

Who said I was ignoring or rejecting the Bible?! I read the Bible quite often; however, I believe that literally acting upon everything in it is taking Scripture MUCH too far.

Also, kindly refer me to the "simple scripture" that I am apparently ignoring.

Ask and ye shall receive, friend.

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works." 2 Timothy 3:16-17

The fact of the matter is, you need to follow all scripture and act in accordance with it. God really can't stress this point enough.

"For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." James 2:10

Think about that verse for a minute. Let's say somebody follows almost every commandment, yet they m*sturbate. Sure, they've arguably led a "pretty good" life, and maybe they've "mostly" done the Lord's work, but it doesn't matter. They failed to follow all of God's law, and in His eye's, they're just as bad as an unrepentant serial rapist.

Tell me friend, do you understand the importance of following all of the Bible now?

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: Why hello there. Don't let my username fool you.

Hello there, Baptists.

Some know me as HarvestmanMan,

Who?

Oh, and please ignore my interests as well. I'm serious about the Christian faith, but my interests apply to other religions...such as Mormonism.

We are interested in Mormonism too as none of us really understand it with its planets to settle, calling wives to Heaven, magical glasses and rocks.

If you can clue us in, more's the better.

I'm Presbyterian, and I know I'm gonna get some flak for that. I don't believe that I am "atheist scum"; to say so would be the exact opposite of the truth.

Calvin was absolutely right. Predestination, Perserverance of the Saints, Total Depravity (though some of us take the Arministic view ), Irresistible Grace, Unlimited Atonement (though some of us believe in limited atonement.)

I'm against racism, discrimination on account of gender or age,

So are we, because the Bible says those things, except age

Deuteronomy 21:18-21 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:
Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;
And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

Race

John 3:9 Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.

or child selling

Exodus 21: 7 And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.

or sacrifice.

Hebrews 11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son

James 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

The first three are simply common sense, in my opinion; the last two are taking the Bible much too literally (some people refer to literal Bible-followers as "sheeple").

How literally should it be taken? Jesus wasn't literally born of a virgin? He wasn't literally risen from the grave? He didn't literally have a conversation with Satan? He didn't literally cast demons out?

Where does the literal God intersect with being labeled a "sheeple"?

Besides, being a "sheep" is what gets you to Heaven. Being a goat gets you to hell.

Matthew 25:32-34 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

Howdy again.

[WinnerNotSinner]

Re: Why hello there. Don't let my username fool you.

I believe that literally acting upon everything in it is taking Scripture MUCH too far.

Okay, well I'll debate you on this simple point.

Also, kindly refer me to the "simple scripture" that I am apparently ignoring.

Well here's 4 I've just rustled up for you! Showing you are just being a false sissy Christian.

Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Deuteronomy 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Proverbs 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

Matthew 4:4 Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Matthew is my favourite, it tells us directly to follow the Bible literally and to live by it.

[John_Alvin]

Re: Why hello there. Don't let my username fool you.

Okay, well I'll debate you on this simple point.



Well here's 4 I've just rustled up for you! Showing you are just being a false sissy Christian.

Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Deuteronomy 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Proverbs 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

Matthew 4:4 Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Matthew is my favourite, it tells us directly to follow the Bible literally and to live by it.

I still don't understand why you refer to Christians of faiths other than yours as "false sissy Christians" and "scum". Seems awfully closed-minded to me, not to mention self-centered.

What's the deal with this? Do you not believe that any other faiths are Christian besides your own?

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Why hello there. Don't let my username fool you.

I still don't understand why you refer to Christians of faiths other than yours as "false sissy Christians" and "scum". Seems awfully closed-minded to me, not to mention self-centered.

What's the deal with this? Do you not believe that any other faiths are Christian besides your own?

We believe that a True Christian follows 100% of the Bible

A false Christian picks and chooses what they want to follow (see Westboro)
A fuzzy bunny Christian takes whiteout to their Bible and completely ignores the parts they find uncomfortable.

So although all fuzzy bunny Christians are false, not all false Christians are fuzzy bunny.

[Professor Bessemer]

Re: Why hello there. Don't let my username fool you.

What's the deal with this? Do you not believe that any other faiths are Christian besides your own?

What a ridiculous question! If I wrongly believed that it was right to pray to Mary, then I could hardly call myself a True Christian™. Please, this has been asked and answered ad infinitum on this board over the years!

You only make yourself look foolish when you ask such obvious questions. Perhaps you should read more and post less.

[felicitysparrow]

Re: Why hello there. Don't let my username fool you.

Hello there, Baptists.

Some know me as HarvestmanMan, but you on these forums get the privilege (nay, the honor) of knowing me as John Calvin.

Oh, and please ignore my interests as well. I'm serious about the Christian faith, but my interests apply to other religions...such as Mormonism.

I'm Presbyterian, and I know I'm gonna get some flak for that. I don't believe that I am "atheist scum"; to say so would be the exact opposite of the truth.

I'm 16 years old and a male. I've spent 10 years in 2 Catholic schools, and I am darned sick of their teachings. Transubstantiation in particular is one thing that I find impossible to believe.

I'm against racism, discrimination on account of gender or age, or child selling or sacrifice. The first three are simply common sense, in my opinion; the last two are taking the Bible much too literally (some people refer to literal Bible-followers as "sheeple").

From what these forums look like so far, the atmosphere is not exactly conducive to new Baptists or followers of other religions. Which I don't understand. After all, isn't a church a place where you can feel at peace with others and God?


I hope it's OK if I speak out against threads like "WOMEN SHOULD NEVER LEAVE THE HOUSE!". If anyone doesn't like it, consult the principle of freedom of speech. I realize that no one might listen to me, but even so, I feel it is my duty to stand up for what I believe is right.

Thanks for reading, if you stuck around that long, and I'll be the one who goes against the majority in these forums.

John Calvin (Jesus isn't the only one whose initials are J.C.!)

Hey!
I for one am glad that you wish to speak out against such threads like 'WOMEN SHOULD NEVER LEAVE THE HOUSE!' etc. etc. The freedom and rights of females is important, and I'm sure the bible agrees if you take a look at feminist readings of various important Biblical women

Keep on speaking out, Christ died for everyone, not just Baptists

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: Why hello there. Don't let my username fool you.

Hey!
I for one am glad that you wish to speak out against such threads like 'WOMEN SHOULD NEVER LEAVE THE HOUSE!' etc. etc. The freedom and rights of females is important, and I'm sure the bible agrees if you take a look at feminist readings of various important Biblical women

Keep on speaking out, Christ died for everyone, not just Baptists

Silence, rib!

1 Corinthians 14:34-35 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

[Bible Student]

Re: Why hello there. Don't let my username fool you.

Hey!
I for one am glad that you wish to speak out against such threads like 'WOMEN SHOULD NEVER LEAVE THE HOUSE!' etc. etc. The freedom and rights of females is important, and I'm sure the bible agrees if you take a look at feminist readings of various important Biblical women

Keep on speaking out, Christ died for everyone, not just Baptists

Exactly which "feminist readings of various important Biblical women" would they be? What is your Biblical expertise to know they are right? Besides he is a boy. How do you expect him to understand all that girl gibberish anyway, let alone dissertations on eschatology, hermeneutics, exegesis, eclecticism, stemmatics, cladistics, postmodernism, etc. by the weaker gender when men can barely understand women’s nonsense?