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Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?
The Earth is flat and God moves the sun overhead - yes, a bit like that marble example. We know however that the earth is supported by pillars
JOB 9
2 I know it is so of a trueth: but howe should man be iust with God.
3 If he will contend with him, he cannot answere him one of a thousand.
4 He is wise in heart, and mightie in strength: who hath hardened himselfe against him, and hath prospered?
5 Which remoueth the mountains, and they know not: which ouerturneth them in his anger:
6 Which shaketh the earth out of her place, & the pillars thereof tremble:
7 Which commandeth the Sunne, and it riseth not: and sealeth vp the starres.
8 Which alone spreadeth out the heauens, and treadeth vpon the waues of the Sea.
9 Which maketh Arcturus, Orion and Pleiades, and the chambers of the South.
10 Which doeth great things past finding out, yea and wonders without number.
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so the "plate" analogy is inaccurate. But if we observe the sun, as God moves it across the sky, illuminating first this and then, later, that part of the the earth beneath (which we encounter as time differences between different regions) we notice that the "noon" you seem to be so ignorant of DOES NOT OCCUR AT ALL WHEN THE SUN IS DIRECTLY OVERHEAD. It is when the sun is at its highest point in the sky, from the perspective of the viewer. God does not move the sun along the same route every day, but varies it so that we will have seasons. Acts 1:7 As you can see - and as our experience tells us - God can (and does) change the seasons just as He has sometimes changed the way He moves the sun (Joshua's long day for example v.s.).
The moon, additionally, has a calendric function. Psalm 104:19
But although we can make observations and record history, construct (albeit somewhat flawed) calendars or observe the seasons, periods when God is moving the sun across the sky nearer to, or farther from, where we are standing, it is up to God when He does those things - changing the seasons, bringing rain or drought, making thunder or shaking the earth and the pillars which support it - and He can change them at any time. Daniel 2:21
It is usually a good idea actually to make observations before calling God a liar - especially in so fundamental matter as the motion of the obvious sun above us. Such a person would be a fool indeed!
Psalm 53:1 [To the chiefe musician vpon Mahalath, Maschil, A Psalme of Dauid.] The foole hath sayde in his heart, There is no god; Corrupt are they, and haue done abhominable iniquitie; there is none that doth good.
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The Earth is flat and God moves the sun overhead - yes, a bit like that marble example. We know however that the earth is supported by pillars
JOB 9
2 I know it is so of a trueth: but howe should man be iust with God.
3 If he will contend with him, he cannot answere him one of a thousand.
4 He is wise in heart, and mightie in strength: who hath hardened himselfe against him, and hath prospered?
5 Which remoueth the mountains, and they know not: which ouerturneth them in his anger:
6 Which shaketh the earth out of her place, & the pillars thereof tremble:
7 Which commandeth the Sunne, and it riseth not: and sealeth vp the starres.
8 Which alone spreadeth out the heauens, and treadeth vpon the waues of the Sea.
9 Which maketh Arcturus, Orion and Pleiades, and the chambers of the South.
10 Which doeth great things past finding out, yea and wonders without number.
©1611
so the "plate" analogy is inaccurate. But if we observe the sun, as God moves it across the sky, illuminating first this and then, later, that part of the the earth beneath (which we encounter as time differences between different regions) we notice that the "noon" you seem to be so ignorant of DOES NOT OCCUR AT ALL WHEN THE SUN IS DIRECTLY OVERHEAD. It is when the sun is at its highest point in the sky, from the perspective of the viewer. God does not move the sun along the same route every day, but varies it so that we will have seasons. Acts 1:7 As you can see - and as our experience tells us - God can (and does) change the seasons just as He has sometimes changed the way He moves the sun (Joshua's long day for example v.s.).
The moon, additionally, has a calendric function. Psalm 104:19
But although we can make observations and record history, construct (albeit somewhat flawed) calendars or observe the seasons, periods when God is moving the sun across the sky nearer to, or farther from, where we are standing, it is up to God when He does those things - changing the seasons, bringing rain or drought, making thunder or shaking the earth and the pillars which support it - and He can change them at any time. Daniel 2:21
It is usually a good idea actually to make observations before calling God a liar - especially in so fundamental matter as the motion of the obvious sun above us. Such a person would be a fool indeed!
Psalm 53:1 [To the chiefe musician vpon Mahalath, Maschil, A Psalme of Dauid.] The foole hath sayde in his heart, There is no god; Corrupt are they, and haue done abhominable iniquitie; there is none that doth good.
©1611
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