[Catherine Moore]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

In honesty, I think you are missing something here.

The Bible doesn't say force in this case because sluts exist.

Lets imagine I was some little trollop who lay with a man without him forcing me to - and we got caught. I could cry rape and the man would be put to death as per 22:25 (assuming I had enough low cunning to make sure we were in a field). I would then be stoned on my wedding night as per 22:21. Either that or, if we were in a city, we'd both be stoned per 22:24.

Long story short, without 22:28 then sluts and the innocent men they could potentially lead on would be killed if caught. As would rapees. Putting force in there would mean that those harlots wouldn't qualify under 22:28.

Our compassionate and loving God has given people a chance to repent of their evil pre-marital sex with only a concern to the father of the slapper/rapee. GLORY

[Dr Laurence Niles]

I think you are missing something here, Deuteronomy 25 clearly states FORCE, Deuteronomy 28 does not, it says take hold of her, and lie with her, I take hold of my wife and lie with her, if both are considered rape why is one only stated as force and the other not. The bible is very clear and there are no 2 different interpretations for the same action.

Having just read Deuteronomy 28:1-68 I see no reference to not forcing your wife.

Could you be a bit clearer in referencing your Scriture (I'm not expecting Harvard, just proper citation I can follow)?

YIC
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[Mproulx]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

Having just read Deuteronomy 28:1-68 I see no reference to not forcing your wife.

Could you be a bit clearer in referencing your Scriture (I'm not expecting Harvard, just proper citation I can follow)?

YIC
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I already think I clearly stated what I believe, If you read the whole chapter without taking any one verse out of context you cant clearly see that, Deuteronomy 22:28 makes no reference to forced rape, if it does, then tell me why a betrothed damsel who is forced in 22:25-27 is at no sin, but an unbetrothed damsel in 22:28 who is layed hands on "(you call rape) at say 8yrs old is at sin and forced to marry the rapist. Where do you see the logic?

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

Where do you see the logic?

Friend, why are you looking for logic? God's will need not conform to our fallible standards of logic. After all, God's ways are not our ways. (Isaiah 55:8)

[Mproulx]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

No it is the logic of men who would interpret the scriptures falsely, Gods word is clear, that im sure of and I am not questioning that, I am however questioning the logic of men, who seem to use to bible for their own means, and falsely twist the WORD. I have no doubt that there is a difference between Force and lay hands on, which is as written in the scripture. And I am sure that God would not force an 8yr old who is raped to marry a rapist. Nuff said. Its up to the individual to discern the right from wrong, and I know where I stand with God.

[Didymus Much]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

...Deuteronomy 22:28 makes no reference to forced rape...

Not being able to read the ancient Hebrew myself, I often find a comparative reading of the Scriptures across the various versions yields insight in situations where the meaning may be ambiguous or unclear. So let's look at a few others:

New International Version (©1984) "If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered"

English Standard Version (© 2001) "If a man meets a virgin who is not betrothed, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are found,"

New American Standard Bible (© 1995) "If a man finds a girl who is a virgin, who is not engaged, and seizes her and lies with her and they are discovered..."

God's Word Translation (© 1995) "This is what you must do when a man rapes a virgin who isn't engaged. When the crime is discovered,"

..., if it does, then tell me why a betrothed damsel who is forced in 22:25-27 is at no sin, but an unbetrothed damsel in 22:28 who is layed hands on "(you call rape) at say 8yrs old is at sin and forced to marry the rapist. Where do you see the logic?

Why do you intentionally overlook the glaring difference between the cases? In one, the young lady is betrothed; in the other, she isn't.

As to why this would make a difference, well, "God works in mysterious ways" (Scriptural support for this available on request) should suffice for someone who CLAIMS to believe.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

No it is the logic of men who would interpret the scriptures falsely, Gods word is clear, that im sure of and I am not questioning that, I am however questioning the logic of men, who seem to use to bible for their own means, and falsely twist the WORD. I have no doubt that there is a difference between Force and lay hands on, which is as written in the scripture. And I am sure that God would not force an 8yr old who is raped to marry a rapist. Nuff said. Its up to the individual to discern the right from wrong, and I know where I stand with God.

Well if you stopped trying to interpret the Word and let the Word interpret itself, you wouldn't get such a headache from trying to figure it out.

You seem like an awfully whiny nag for a man. Are you a homosexual?

[Mproulx]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

Such comments only come from people who cannot debate or have sound conversation, I will not be tempted to anger by such.

[Didymus Much]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

Such comments only come from people who cannot debate or have sound conversation, I will not be tempted to anger by such.

Shall we take your ad hominem as acknowledgement of your defeat?

note: My next reply may be delayed, as I have to go smoke a large joint now.

[Mproulx]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

As I can see by your reputation your obviously a troll, I dont need to dignify myself with a response to heathens.

[Didymus Much]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

As I can see by your reputation your obviously a troll, I dont need to dignify myself with a response to heathens.

Hey, I'm the one agreeing with them about what the Bible clearly instructs people to do.

If you don't accept this, and everything else in the Bible, how can you call yourself a Christian?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

Such comments only come from people who cannot debate or have sound conversation, I will not be tempted to anger by such.

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[Mproulx]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

Fortunately for me I am saved, I accepted Jesus into my heart 20 years ago, and you calling me unsaved scum only shows what kind of Christian you really are, who are you to judge a mans faith, for in doing so, your own faith is being tested.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

Fortunately for me I am saved, I accepted Jesus into my heart 20 years ago, and you calling me unsaved scum only shows what kind of Christian you really are, who are you to judge a mans faith, for in doing so, your own faith is being tested.

Who am I to judge you?

If you were Saved(r), you would know the answer to that question.

[Mproulx]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

Only God knows the heart, you can judge and condemn all you want, but to tell a man that he is unsaved, that is only for God to judge. But obviously you think your right in all things, remember, you were born a naked sinner, and if not for Gods grace you would not have salvation or understanding.