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  • #31
    Re: God Hates Asexuals

    What about those who have never heard the word of God? Those born in countries where Christianity hardly exists, and a different religion is the norm? Will they be slated for eternal damnation because of where they were born?

    And yes, God really does love everyone. He wants everyone to get into Heaven. It doesn't make him pleased when people go to Hell. But they do go to Hell, because they did not listen and were not saved.

    One could spit in the face of Jesus, and he will turn his other cheek. If one is truly remorseful, and prays, and begs forgiveness, Jesus will forgive them!

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    • #32
      Re: God Hates Asexuals

      Originally posted by believeandbesaved View Post
      ...One could spit in the face of Jesus, and he will turn his other cheek...
      This is cribbed from a response I made to someone else who didn't fully understand what "turning the other cheek" means (I didn't feel like typing it all out again):

      I also know how few people actually understand what "turn the other cheek" really means. If you follow this link, you'll find the verse in question (Matthew 5:39) as it appears in 20 of the most common Bibles in use today. Notice how they ALL specify that someone's hitting your RIGHT cheek. Curious (or telling?), as there is very little else they agree on.

      Back then, only the right hand was used for touching others. The left (as is still common in many countries) was used for toilet purposes. If I was to strike you on the right cheek using my right hand, it would have to be a backhand strike. This was the disciplinary method used on slaves and servants, and showed the the striker considered the other to be below them, socially.

      By only presenting the left cheek as a target, you would force me to use a forehand strike, with the concomitant acknowledgement of you as my social equal.

      Thus, we see that the "turn the other cheek" passage is NOT an instruction to yield unconditionally to any aggressor (as it has been portrayed by many, who either do not understand, or consciously wish to misrepresent, the message of the Bible), but instead is a passive-aggressive way of forcing them to treat you as an equal.

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      • #33
        Re: God Hates Asexuals

        Originally posted by believeandbesaved View Post
        What about those who have never heard the word of God? Those born in countries where Christianity hardly exists, and a different religion is the norm? Will they be slated for eternal damnation because of where they were born?

        And yes, God really does love everyone. He wants everyone to get into Heaven. It doesn't make him pleased when people go to Hell. But they do go to Hell, because they did not listen and were not saved.

        One could spit in the face of Jesus, and he will turn his other cheek. If one is truly remorseful, and prays, and begs forgiveness, Jesus will forgive them!
        /

        WHat countries are you thinking of? The whole world has heard the Word, and only the muslim and Asian world has deigned to reject it!
        The only places where the Word is not heard are the places where it is prohibited like in China or Iran.
        South Korea, for example, has quickly converted to Christianity while North Korea remains a land of heathens.
        And I will shake all nations, and the desire of all nations shall come, and I will fill this house with glory, saith the Lord of hosts

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        • #34
          Re: God Hates Asexuals

          Originally posted by believeandbesaved View Post
          What about those who have never heard the word of God? Those born in countries where Christianity hardly exists, and a different religion is the norm? Will they be slated for eternal damnation because of where they were born?...
          YES.

          Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."

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          • #35
            Re: God Hates Asexuals

            Originally posted by believeandbesaved View Post
            What about those who have never heard the word of God?
            If ignorance of God's Words was a loophole, then the work of missionaries would actually be counter-productive.
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            I Kings 7:23

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            • #36
              Re: God Hates Asexuals

              We are straying from the topic at hand. One, in my first reply, I was talking about asexuality. Why did you ignore everything except for the phrase "God loves everyone"? I am confused.

              To ChristianCaucasian: I had no idea you the faith structure of every single country in the world! I will try to keep that in mind next time I make an educated conjecture. Also, you mention that in North Korea Christianity is banned. If it is banned, how do the people get a chance to hear the Word? Where are they getting the faith?

              In an area densely populated with, lets say, Buddhists, being Buddhist is all you know. You don't go straying from the faith. It's not an act of spite. It's just cultural. Just like none of you would stray from Christianity.

              To Didymus Much: I think you are looking to far into the historical factor of this teaching, rather than the spiritual factor. It is about forgiveness, not about submission.

              Also, you can't believe what you do not know about.

              Like, for example, someone who did not know about the Uncertainty Principle (Werner Heisenberg) can't be said to not believe it, because they do not know about it. Yes?

              I'm sorry you feel this way, all of you. I will continue in my faith as an asexual despite your abhorrence towards it.

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              • #37
                Re: God Hates Asexuals

                Originally posted by believeandbesaved View Post
                ...Like, for example, someone who did not know about the Uncertainty Principle (Werner Heisenberg) can't be said to not believe it, because they do not know about it. Yes?...
                And that would be perfectly acceptable for anyone who doesn't have to pass a physics exam <<< this is where you connect the dots.

                God has clearly laid out for you (as a Christian) His instructions and conditions for admittance to the better part of the Hereafter, in the Bible. As Mark 16:16 plainly states, anyone who does not believe in Jesus and/or is not Baptized will not be Saved, endof.

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                • #38
                  Re: God Hates Asexuals

                  Originally posted by believeandbesaved View Post
                  I am a Christian. I am saved. I love God, and Jesus, and my neighbors. I follow the 10 commandments. And I am, as someone who reserves judgment (judge not that you shall not be judged) deeply saddened by the show of ignorance on this thread.

                  Less than one percent of the population is asexual. I hate to break it to you, but I am severely doubting that this has much bearing on the population of the next generation.

                  Also, God loves everyone. Even sinners. So even if being asexual was a sin, which I don't believe to be true but I will let you run with it, God still loves them. God hates no one. Why would he give his only Son if he didn't love everyone!? He sent Jesus to Earth so that we could believe and be saved. Not so that we could use his name to denounce what we do not understand.

                  I will not deny that in the Bible, God denounces homosexuality, bestiality, and necrophilia. But nowhere does it say anything about people who do not find other humans (or anything else) sexually attractive. And asexuality isn't celibacy either, although celibacy is generally smiled on in the Bible.

                  If you want to point out asexuals lack of reproductive capabilities, does this mean that every person who can no reproduce biologically are worthless to God? That all he wants from us are to copulate and produce children? This makes me sick. God gave us free will for a reason, and one aspect of free will is whether or not you want to have sex. Also, asexuals can get married? Sex isn't a defining aspect of Love or marriage.

                  For those of raving about stoning and killing and etc. Jesus told us, whoever is blameless can throw the first stone. None of us are sinless, unless you are the next coming of Christ. So, if any of you have cut your hair recently or worn multi-fabric clothing, you can join me, the straight person who happens to not want to have sex, in Hell.

                  God bless, and good day to all.

                  P.S. If you want to try to drop the bomb shell of me being "too ugly" to be wanted, I will have you know that I have been asked out numerous times, and enjoyed lasting friendships with many of these people after I have gently rejected their advances.
                  You want answers to your other ignorant rantings spewing hatred on God? Okay.

                  There are many more commandments in the Bible than just the 10 you claim to follow. We follow all of them, as Jesus instructed us to do (offend in the slightest and you're guilty of all).

                  You reserve judgment because you failed to read the Bible. Anyone who has ever read any part of the Bible has come across various verses requiring us to exhort and rebuke people without stopping. And did Jesus Himself fail to rebuke people? Or did He tell sinners to stop sinning? And even if by accident you had only opened your Bible on the page where you read "to judge not lest you be judged" you could not have missed the following verses that explain what is meant there, that we should not judge hypocritically, but that we certainly should tell our neighbors when they stray.

                  Your defense of asexuality and other perversions seems to be based on only one thing, and that is that you can ignore God's command to populate earth by claiming you don't feel like having intercourse. Your feelings are irrelevant. And worse, as a woman you will be saved through childbearing and the pain that comes with that , which you deserve for your born sins, no children=no heaven.

                  You claim God loves everyone, but would you burn a loved one to death? Or torture them? Of course not, but that is what God does to sinners, even the slightest sin means the sinner, the person committing the sin, is going to get tortured, not for a day or a year, but for thousand upon thousands of years. A billion years after the rapture and Jesus wiping the earth of all non-Christian scum He will still cause someone who gathered firewood on a sabbath day to be in constant unbearable and unrelenting suffering. Is that love?

                  Of course God wants to love everyone, but He can't do that if we don't love Him first and apologize to Him for Him creating us as sinners.

                  Our belief that God wants us to have children makes you sick? No, God makes you sick, as this is a command directly taken from His Word. Consider if you are not a satanist instead of a Christian, if thinking of God's loving directions for us makes you sick, then perhaps you are not as good a Christian as you think you are.

                  Your final remarks about Jesus are perhaps the most tragic in your entire post, saying that only blameless people should cast stones (true) and that none of us is blameless (false). This shows you don't believe in the most important thing that Jesus came here to tell us: we can be cleansed of our sins by washing in His blood. Washing us in His blood means we are then free of all sin, we can go to heaven, and we can cast the first stone, just some of the things reserved for people who are entirely without sin.

                  P.s. You being a pity case doesn't mean you're not ugly on the outside (you being ugly on the inside we have already established).
                  Leviticus 26:15-16
                  And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments, but that ye break my covenant: I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it.

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                  • #39
                    Re: God Hates Asexuals

                    Originally posted by believeandbesaved View Post
                    I am a Christian. I am saved. I love God, and Jesus, and my neighbours.
                    Amen! That's all that's required of us, that we love God and our neighbour.

                    Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?

                    And I am, as someone who reserves judgment (judge not that you shall not be judged) deeply saddened by the show of ignorance on this thread.
                    You need to read this sermon: The Most MISUNDERSTOOD Passage in All the Bible (Matthew 7:1-5)

                    Also, God loves everyone. Even sinners. God hates no one. Why would he give his only Son if he didn't love everyone!? He sent Jesus to Earth so that we could believe and be saved.
                    God does not love everyone. He hates lots of people.

                    Leviticus 20:23 And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.

                    Leviticus 26:30 And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcases upon the carcases of your idols, and my soul shall abhor you.

                    Deuteronomy 32:19 And when the LORD saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters.

                    Psalm 5:5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

                    Psalm 5:6 Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.

                    Psalm 10:3 For the wicked boasteth of his heart's desire, and blesseth the covetous, whom the LORD abhorreth.

                    Psalm 11:5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

                    Psalm 53:5 There were they in great fear, where no fear was: for God hath scattered the bones of him that encampeth against thee: thou hast put them to shame, because God hath despised them.

                    Psalm 73:20 As a dream when one awaketh; so, O Lord, when thou awakest, thou shalt despise their image.

                    Psalm 78:59 When God heard this, he was wroth, and greatly abhorred Israel:

                    Psalm 106:40 Therefore was the wrath of the LORD kindled against his people, insomuch that he abhorred his own inheritance.

                    Proverbs 6:16-19 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

                    Proverbs 22:14 The mouth of strange women is a deep pit: he that is abhorred of the LORD shall fall therein.

                    Lamentations 2:6 And he hath violently taken away his tabernacle, as if it were of a garden: he hath destroyed his places of the assembly: the LORD hath caused the solemn feasts and sabbaths to be forgotten in Zion, and hath despised in the indignation of his anger the king and the priest.

                    Hosea 9:15 All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters.

                    Amos 5:21 I hate, I despise your feast days, and I will not smell in your solemn assemblies.

                    Zechariah 11:8 Three shepherds also I cut off in one month; and my soul lothed them, and their soul also abhorred me.

                    Malachi 1:3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

                    Romans 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

                    Revelation 2:6; 15 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate.


                    For those of raving about stoning and killing and etc. Jesus told us, whoever is blameless can throw the first stone. None of us are sinless, unless you are the next coming of Christ.
                    You're taking that passage out of context.

                    Jn 8:1-6a
                    1 Jesus went unto the mount of Olives.
                    2 And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.
                    3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
                    4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
                    5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
                    6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him.


                    Jesus is teaching in the temple on the Mt. of Olives and people are listening, but not everyone. The Scribes and Pharisees, still seeking to discredit Jesus, being jealous that "the common people heard him gladly" (Mark 12:37), brought a women in adultery.

                    Vs. 4: "Master," they say, hypocritically, "this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act" (keep that in mind because that will be the key issue).

                    Vs. 5: "Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?" They are trying to make it appear that Jesus opposed the Law given by Moses, which he did not.

                    John 8:6b-8
                    6b. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
                    7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
                    8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.


                    From vs 7, we see that he didn't answer them immediately, but eventually he said, "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." Jesus is referring to Deuteronomy 17:6-7.

                    6 At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.
                    7 The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt put the evil away from among you.


                    These verses state that to stone someone properly, witnesses had to be present and actually be the first to initiate the death sentence.

                    The law was very specific with regard to adultery in that it stated that both the man and the woman had to die.

                    If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel. (Deut. 22:22)

                    It just doesn't take much processing power then to see what Jesus was saying: "He who is not guilty of adultery be the first to cast a stone at her." And if indeed the woman was caught "in the very act" of adultery, then where was the man?

                    In their earnestness to see Jesus look like a riotous, anti-Moses, turnabout messiah, they didn't even bother to keep the law they boasted so much about.

                    John 8:9-11
                    9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
                    10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
                    11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.


                    So the law couldn't be carried out - not because Jesus opposed killing - but because the law could not be carried out properly. Jesus was the only one who kept the law perfectly.

                    The idea that Jesus was saying, "He who is not guilty of any sin at all cast a stone at her first" makes no sense because, in that case, no one could have ever carried out the law since all have sinned (I Kings 8:46; Eccl. 7:20; Romans 3:23).
                    sigpicMt 21:42, 44 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes . . . ? And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

                    Find out what the Bible says about: Fortnite: Battle Royale, asexuality, shaving, psychiatry, chronic fatigue syndrome, babies

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                    • #40
                      Re: God Hates Asexuals

                      Originally posted by A Follower View Post
                      You want answers to your other ignorant rantings spewing hatred on God? Okay.

                      There are many more commandments in the Bible than just the 10 you claim to follow. We follow all of them, as Jesus instructed us to do (offend in the slightest and you're guilty of all).

                      You reserve judgment because you failed to read the Bible. Anyone who has ever read any part of the Bible has come across various verses requiring us to exhort and rebuke people without stopping. And did Jesus Himself fail to rebuke people? Or did He tell sinners to stop sinning? And even if by accident you had only opened your Bible on the page where you read "to judge not lest you be judged" you could not have missed the following verses that explain what is meant there, that we should not judge hypocritically, but that we certainly should tell our neighbors when they stray.

                      Your defense of asexuality and other perversions seems to be based on only one thing, and that is that you can ignore God's command to populate earth by claiming you don't feel like having intercourse. Your feelings are irrelevant. And worse, as a woman you will be saved through childbearing and the pain that comes with that , which you deserve for your born sins, no children=no heaven.

                      You claim God loves everyone, but would you burn a loved one to death? Or torture them? Of course not, but that is what God does to sinners, even the slightest sin means the sinner, the person committing the sin, is going to get tortured, not for a day or a year, but for thousand upon thousands of years. A billion years after the rapture and Jesus wiping the earth of all non-Christian scum He will still cause someone who gathered firewood on a sabbath day to be in constant unbearable and unrelenting suffering. Is that love?

                      Of course God wants to love everyone, but He can't do that if we don't love Him first and apologize to Him for Him creating us as sinners.

                      Our belief that God wants us to have children makes you sick? No, God makes you sick, as this is a command directly taken from His Word. Consider if you are not a satanist instead of a Christian, if thinking of God's loving directions for us makes you sick, then perhaps you are not as good a Christian as you think you are.

                      Your final remarks about Jesus are perhaps the most tragic in your entire post, saying that only blameless people should cast stones (true) and that none of us is blameless (false). This shows you don't believe in the most important thing that Jesus came here to tell us: we can be cleansed of our sins by washing in His blood. Washing us in His blood means we are then free of all sin, we can go to heaven, and we can cast the first stone, just some of the things reserved for people who are entirely without sin.

                      P.s. You being a pity case doesn't mean you're not ugly on the outside (you being ugly on the inside we have already established).
                      Okay.

                      I love God. Where did I seem to hate him? Was it where I denounced your belief that people who do not want children are useless and unloved by God? Because I believe I was speaking out against you, not against Him. And yes, there is a difference. You are not God.

                      You are being extremely disrespectful. I objectively stated my beliefs and you completely trampled all over them, calling me something other than Christian, ugly on the inside, and a pity case. I am not a pity case. I am a very happy, healthy, and spiritually fulfilled person. From your angry and spiteful ravings, I am wondering if you are projecting your own feelings about yourself upon me. I am innocent of everything you claim. I am just trying to show you a different point of view, respectfully. I don't need for you to insult me for professing my faith.

                      Despite the fact that Jesus died for us, and created us anew with his sacrifice, this does not give us a free pass to judge everyone and play God. We are still sinners. We are still blamed. Only through a relationship with Jesus can we be pure. And we, as inherent sinners, will still stumble and fall. Jesus doesn't judge us for that, as long as we get back up and ask for forgiveness.

                      What I see in you, sir, is what Jesus pointed out to be the Pharisees and High Priests. You claim to be perfect amidst your trumpets and fanfare. You preach and lecture, and yet you yourself do not follow all of what the Bible has to offer! I do not want to have children. You have, it seems by your picture, cut your hair! Did you not know that you are not supposed to cut your hair? By your standards, you are an abomination, and should be cast into Hell. But in reality, you are a child of God. Just like me! And God loves us both! Why does this seem to be so insulting to you?

                      In reality, we are all sinners. Me not wanting to have sex, which is very legitimate, I assure you, does not make me defective or unloved by God.

                      You said some very spiteful things to me, which goes against one of Jesus' teachings. I think it may be one of the most important ones.

                      Love thy neighbor as thyself.

                      And if you try to tell me I'm taking it out of context, I won't have it.

                      To Pim Pendergast: I liked your response much better. You were clean, succinct, and professional in your rebuttal. You made some good points. But I believe, that when Jesus died for us, he made a new covenant for man. One that had hope and love as its center, instead of incessant rule following. That sounds bad, but I believe that if you first Love God Above All Else... and then Love Your Neighbor As Thyself, that is the core values of Christianity. Of course it is wise to follow the Bible to the best of one's ability. But getting into heaven isn't all about whether or not you went into seven day seclusion upon getting your period, or some other non practiced, out of date law.

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                      • #41
                        Re: God Hates Asexuals

                        Originally posted by believeandbesaved View Post
                        Okay...
                        So you call yourself a Christian while denouncing everything that the Bible says is required to be a Christian? How's that work?

                        If you can't trust the Bible on what you actually need to do to be Saved (you imply that there are much fewer and less restrictive requirements) then how can you trust anything that it says, like about there being a Heaven (or Hell) waiting for us at all?

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                        • #42
                          Re: God Hates Asexuals

                          Originally posted by believeandbesaved View Post
                          What about those who have never heard the word of God? Those born in countries where Christianity hardly exists, and a different religion is the norm? Will they be slated for eternal damnation because of where they were born?
                          Pretty much. Paul makes it clear that you cannot believe unless you've heard the Gospel.

                          Rom 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
                          Rom 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
                          [. . .]
                          Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.


                          Yet if you haven't heard the Gospel, that's no excuse. God has clearly revealed Himself through Creation.

                          Ps 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

                          Eccl 3:11 He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.

                          Rom 1:18-20 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

                          God gave you a conscience so that you would know right from wrong. So even if you've never heard God's moral law, you can't plead ignorance if you break the Sabbath or wear a garment of mixed fabric.

                          Rom 2:14-15 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;

                          God determines where people are born. He controls the rise and fall of nations.

                          Acts 17:26-27 [God] hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; that they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:

                          What better way to get people to seek after Him than to scatter them all over the earth in places where they will never hear the Gospel? It's all part of His master plan.

                          Originally posted by believeandbesaved View Post
                          You are being extremely disrespectful. I objectively stated my beliefs
                          No you didn't. You haven't backed up any of your statements with Scripture or with anything that could be regarded as evidence.

                          Despite the fact that Jesus died for us, and created us anew with his sacrifice, this does not give us a free pass to judge everyone and play God.
                          Jesus didn't die for everyone. He died specifically for His people (Jn 10:15, 28), His church.

                          Eph 5:25b Even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

                          We are still sinners.
                          Well, we're not.

                          Love thy neighbor as thyself. And if you try to tell me I'm taking it out of context, I won't have it.
                          I'm afraid you'll have to have it. You obviously didn't read the link I posted earlier.

                          Originally posted by Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson View Post
                          These are questions we are often asked here and I wanted to write this sermon to clear up many misconceptions that people seem to have about certain passages.

                          Love your neighbor, meanie!

                          Matthew 22:39 And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'

                          They take this to mean that we are supposed to have a big hippie love-in with everyone we meet. The question I ask them is, who are our neighbors? Fortunately for us, Jesus was asked that exact same question.

                          You may know it as the parable of the Good Samaritan. You may have known this story as a morality tale as that the least of us can be good and do good things for one another, but the story is actually a foundation upon which salvation lies.

                          Please turn with me to Luke 10:25-37

                          25And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
                          26He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?
                          27And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
                          28And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
                          29But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbour?

                          Most of us know the story of the Jewish man who was left for dead on the side of the road. Two Jews passed him by one was even a Levite priest, but a Samaritan (an unclean low person {John 4:9} who didn't believe in Judaism the same way the regular Jews did.) stopped to save him. Jesus ends the parable by asking this question in Luke 10:36-37

                          36Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?
                          37And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise

                          Hallelujah! Our answer is clear. Only one of the three people was Jesus' neighbor.

                          We are to love our neighbors as ourselves, but our neighbors are only those who display Christian love and kindness by doing God's will. The people who won't help the ministry of Christ are beyond our help and they will be cast into the fire.

                          Like, aren't we supposed to love one another, man?

                          John 13:34
                          "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another."

                          Again, this scripture taken out of context would make it sound like we are supposed to go around drawing hearts and writing love poetry to everyone we see on the streets when nothing could be further from the truth.

                          To properly discern this saying of Jesus we have to take it into context. Who was Jesus speaking to when He gave us that commandment?

                          The setting is during the last supper. Jesus is sitting there with His disciples. It was a closed event.

                          You only need to look at the next verse to realize that Jesus didn't include everyone in this.

                          By this shall all men (the rest of them or everyone else)know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

                          We are to love our fellow Christians.

                          But wait! I'm a Christian!

                          Maybe you are maybe you aren't. We'll know soon enough. As Jesus tells us in Matthew 7:16-21

                          16Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
                          17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
                          18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
                          19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
                          20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
                          21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

                          Only those who live Christianity in other words.

                          But isn't everyone a "brother" or a "sister" by virtue that we are all related somehow?

                          That would be an emphatic no. Jesus tells us that our own flesh and blood family cannot stand in the way of following Him.

                          Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

                          Not only did Jesus tell us to do this, but He followed it by denying his own mother and siblings. Please turn to Matthew 12:46-50 with me

                          46While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.
                          47Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
                          48But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
                          49And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
                          50For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

                          Jesus tells us that only those who follow Him are your brother and sisters.

                          No, I'm sure I think I'm a Christian even though you're telling me I'm not.

                          Thankfully, we have the Epistles to deal with this situation. If someone calls his/her self a brother or sister and they continue in sin, the Bible is specific how we are to treat them. Please see 1 Corinthians 5:9-13

                          9I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
                          10Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
                          11But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
                          12For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
                          13But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

                          We are to shun you and ignore you. If you are preaching a Gospel other than what is in the Bible like coddling queers and other assorted sinners, we are to not listen to you. We are not allowed to greet you warmly much less let you into our home or we are culpable in your sins. Please see 2 John 1:9-11.

                          9Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

                          10If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
                          11For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

                          In summation, there are many verses about love in the Bible that are incorrectly attributed to mean that we are to love everyone no matter what. The Truth, as always, lies in God's Word.
                          To Pim Pendergast: I liked your response much better. You were clean, succinct, and professional in your rebuttal. You made some good points. But I believe, that when Jesus died for us, he made a new covenant for man. One that had hope and love as its center, instead of incessant rule following. That sounds bad, but I believe that if you first Love God Above All Else... and then Love Your Neighbor As Thyself, that is the core values of Christianity. Of course it is wise to follow the Bible to the best of one's ability. But getting into heaven isn't all about whether or not you went into seven day seclusion upon getting your period, or some other non practiced, out of date law.
                          You offer no Biblical evidence to support your opinion and you ignore the Biblical evidence presented to you. You also seem to be one of those who thinks the Old Testament no longer applies. But you can't be a Christian if you don't believe the Old Testament.
                          sigpicMt 21:42, 44 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes . . . ? And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

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                            Re: God Hates Asexuals

                            I'm Christian and I'm also Asexual, and not for a second do I believe that a God who describes himself as a 'God of Love' would hate people just for being themselves. You need to think about what you're doing here, because you're turning more people against you than for you.
                            A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back. Proverbs 26:3

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                              Re: God Hates Asexuals

                              Originally posted by truth-must-be-told View Post
                              I'm Christian and I'm also Asexual, and not for a second do I believe that a God who describes himself as a 'God of Love' would hate people just for being themselves. You need to think about what you're doing here, because you're turning more people against you than for you.
                              Sorry friend, not possible. Either you are a follower of God and the Bible (and a possible Christian) or you are not and thusly doomed to eternal torture in Hell. The Bible is very clear on this. You might want to actually read it. From what I can see, you have already spread your sphincter for the Devil.
                              Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                              Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                              Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                              Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                              Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                              Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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                                Re: God Hates Asexuals

                                Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
                                Sorry friend, not possible. Either you are a follower of God and the Bible (and a possible Christian) or you are not and thusly doomed to eternal torture in Hell. The Bible is very clear on this. You might want to actually read it. From what I can see, you have already spread your sphincter for the Devil.
                                I have read it thanks, multiple times. Also, 'thusly' isn't a word. Go read a dictionary.
                                A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back. Proverbs 26:3

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