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Christian Anarchism -
08-08-2011, 06:19 AM
Hello everyone, I am a Christian anarchist. Now I know what you're thinking, "isn't that some kind of oxymormon?" Actually, no...here is proof of what we do and Scriptural justification.
1. We don't have much use for dogma or rituals. We wish that Christians were less preoccupied with performing rituals and preaching dogmatic theology, and more with following Jesus' teaching and practices. Jesus did not intend to be the founder of an institutional religion, and one of Jesus' intentions was to bypass human intermediaries and do away with priests, bishops, and ministers.
2. We follow Jesus' call not to resist evil and turn the other cheek, ergo we condemn the state state as the police and army are the key sources of violence in our world (in following the Sixth Commandment).
3. We believe in living simply...why build megachurches or on-site mansions when the money can be used to help the poor and otherwise underprivileged?
4. I know you like to use Romans 13:1-7 to refute us...but if we fight the power, we become too much like them. Ergo, we just let go, knowing that they'll ALL get what's coming to them on the Last Day. (Besides, I really think Paul was mainly responsible for the perversion of Christianity)
5. In accordance with Matthew 5:33-37, we do not believe in swearing any oaths to God or man (it's not "under God" that's evil, it's pledging allegiance itself)
6. I oppose the payment of taxes, but know you like to use Matthew 22:21 to refute my people. However, Jesus really was not speaking in support of us paying taxes, but in saying "let them be attached to the world, you be attached to God."
SCRIPTURAL JUSTIFICATION
Old Testament
Remember, God VERY RELUCTANTLY granted the Israelites' request of a king...Samuel warned them about the evils the State brings.
New Testament
See my signature for two very notable verses. Others include Jesus' opposition to human leadership (Matthew 23:8-12) and his refusal to be made king (Matthew 4:8-10 and John 6:15). And don't even get me started with the Beast-the State is the Beast.
I hope this clears things up.
The Kingdom of God is Within You,
XtianAnarchist
1 Peter 3:1
Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands.
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Re: Christian Anarchism -
08-08-2011, 06:35 AM
This is ridiculous to the nth degree.
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(Besides, I really think Paul was mainly responsible for the perversion of Christianity)
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How convenient for you. That way you get to ignore all the scriptures about submitting to authority.
Do you have a problem with Peter?
1 Peter 2:13-17 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.
For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:
As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.
Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.
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Re: Christian Anarchism -
08-08-2011, 06:41 AM
There is a difference between submission and obedience. I submit to the State's persecution, but obey only God.
You seem to be taking these verses out of context...in their proper context, they are a call for us to follow Christ's example of humbling himself and his loving submission to persecutors (remember, we must not return evil for evil)
1 Peter 3:1
Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands.
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Re: Christian Anarchism -
08-08-2011, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by XtianAnarchist
There is a difference between submission and obedience. I submit to the State's persecution, but obey only God.
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Well, that seems to be the heart of your problem. The Bible says to obey your rulers.
Hebrews 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.
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Originally Posted by XtianAnarchist
You seem to be taking these verses out of context...in their proper context, they are a call for us to follow Christ's example of humbling himself and his loving submission to persecutors (remember, we must not return evil for evil)
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Son, I have forgotten more about the Bible than you ever knew.
If you plan to call me out on being out of context again, you had better have your facts straight with example of how it is out of context and with the correct context. Your vague assertions merely make me laugh a little.
Clear?
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Re: Christian Anarchism -
08-08-2011, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by XtianAnarchist
Hello everyone, I am a Christian anarchist. Now I know what you're thinking, "isn't that some kind of oxymormon?" Actually, no...
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Actually, yes. True Christians don’t ask questions, but follow God’s commandments, as ordained by the Bible.
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Originally Posted by XtianAnarchist
4. I know you like to use Romans 13:1-7 to refute us...but if we fight the power, we become too much like them. Ergo, we just let go, knowing that they'll ALL get what's coming to them on the Last Day. (Besides, I really think Paul was mainly responsible for the perversion of Christianity)
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Apparently, you reject all epistles attributed to Paul (at least Romans, 1st Corinthians, 2nd Corinthians, Galatians, Phillipians, 1st Thessalonians and Philemon). I hate to ask it, but someone has to:
- Do you believe the Holy KJV.1611 Bible is inerrant – accurate and totally free of errors - or not?
- Are you a so-called Sovereign Citizen and adherent of the “Christian” Identity ideology?
You'll have to choose your side, son:
Matthew 12:30 "He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad."
FYI, I absolutely agree with Pastor Sampson.
YiC
Don
Ask not what your Lord can do for you. Ask what you can do for your Lord.
... your choice entirely (Matthew 12:30)
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Re: Christian Anarchism -
08-08-2011, 12:37 PM
Great. Another 'kewl kid'.
Child, you cannot be both. A Christian beleives in God without question. A Christian does not do what he wants, he does what God wants. Even the retarded kid that sweeps the road in front of the Church knows this.
Mercury filled thermometers were not 'sippy straws'.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: Christian Anarchism -
08-08-2011, 11:32 PM
Christian anarchist?
Hey, I'll play:
- battle-weary boodist
- generous joo
- peaceful mooslim
Yours in Christ,
Z. Smyth
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Re: Christian Anarchism -
08-09-2011, 01:45 AM
Anarchism allows for any religion to flourish. The Holy Bible says we are to obey one God only.
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2 Chronicles 15:13
Whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.
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Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Christian Anarchism -
08-09-2011, 07:00 PM
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I hope this clears things up.
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Friend, you say that as if there was some lack of clarity here. I assure you, there wasn't. The only people I've ever seen use the term "Xtian" were smug atheists.
I conclude, therefore, that you are an atheist. Instead of pretending to be a Christian, why don't you consider becoming one?
If you're not completely satisfied, your hellbound misery will be returned to you at no additional charge!
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Re: Christian Anarchism -
08-09-2011, 08:20 PM
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...The only people I've ever seen use the term "Xtian" were smug atheists...
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Exactly!
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Dear anarcho-communist, if you'd aim your anti-authoritarian attitude only toward the current executive branch of the US Government, alas…
You’re a textbook example of cherry-picker, choosing only what pleases you from each plate. Citizen’s rights without obligations, conservatism without free-market values, few convenient parts from the Bible, Ian from "Christian" – obviously, you’d plug your tallywacker in any kind of cavity that might come along as well.
It doesn’t work that way; read Mark 12:17, Romans 13:2-6 and 1 Peter 2:13-17. Oh and Leviticus 18:22 as well.
Ask not what your Lord can do for you. Ask what you can do for your Lord.
... your choice entirely (Matthew 12:30)
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