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The roman catholic "Church" is Not Christian. I want you all to understand this.

Practically all precepts of the papists contradict the Bible repeatedly. It is the largest cult in the world and most preachers will not openly say so because it is so large. For catholics who read this, please remember this: the person that tells you the truth is the one that cares. Jesus wants you to quit kissing those rings, and instead become washed clean in His Blood!

For a glimpse of the atrocities committed by the catholic cult, do a net search on the Inquisition or the Crusades. During the Inquisition, the catholics religion killed millions. Why? Primarily to suppress any and all opposition to the pope. Side "benefits" included taking the material wealth of its victims and showing the pope's power. The papist Inquisitors tortured, crippled, burned, and imprisioned millions of people. Whatever happened to love your enemies? (Matthew 5:44)

Before we get to specific problems with catholic doctrine, let's review how this bloodthirsty organization treated a man who simply wanted to get the Bible into the hands of the common people. In the late 1300s John Wycilf translated the scriptures from the Latin Vulgate. Some 40 odd years after his death, the catholic "religion" dug up his bones and burned them calling him an arch-heretick. In the 1500's William Tyndale sought to translate the Bible into the language of the common people, English. He could not gain approval from the catholic pope so he worked as an outlaw on the run in Europe, translating the Bible. He was eventually captured, condemned and executed in 1536. It is because of people like these men, Tyndale and Wycliffe, that we have the scriptures today. If the papists had their way, we'd still be in ignorance about the Bible and enslaved to the pope. Time fails me here to tell of other marytrs like John Hus, John Rogers, etc. who were killed by popish thugs.

I'll list the catholic tradition first and then what the Bible has to say about the matter.


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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Call priests father, e.g., Father McKinley.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS -

Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Forbidding the priesthood to marry.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS -

1) It is devilish to forbid God's people to marry when He has given marriage to be received with thanksgiving.

1 Timothy
4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.


2) Peter was married (remember the pope is supposedly continuing the apostolic line through Peter).

Matthew
8:14 And when Jesus was come into Peter's house, he saw his wife's mother laid, and sick of a fever.

Mark
1:30 But Simon's wife's mother lay sick of a fever, and anon they tell him of her.

Luke
4:38 And he arose out of the synagogue, and entered into Simon's house. And Simon's wife's mother was taken with a great fever; and they besought him for her.


3) Paul, a great apostle, remained single; however he made it very clear that he could marry if he wanted to.

1 Corinthians
9:5 Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas?


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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary never had other children after the Lord Jesus. A perpetual virgin.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Mary and Joseph indeed had children. They were the Lord's half brothers and sisters for their father was Joseph and mother was Mary.

Matthew
13:55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?
13:56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?
Mark
6:3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.


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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary is the queen of heaven.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Worshipping the queen of heaven (which is not the Mary of the Bible) is worshipping another god and it provokes the Lord to anger.

Jeremiah
7:17 Seest thou not what they do in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem?
7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.
7:19 Do they provoke me to anger? saith the LORD: do they not provoke themselves to the confusion of their own faces?

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary is the mother of God.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Mary is the mother of the earthly Jesus, not God. Jesus pre- existed from everlasting as God (see John 1:1). When He came to redeem mankind, He laid aside His glory and was made like unto sinful man so that He could take our punishment (Hebrew 2:9). God has no mother. He has lived from everlasting which means He had no beginning.

Isaiah
43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. [If Mary gave birth to God, she'd be God.]
Psalm
93:2 Thy throne is established of old: thou art from everlasting.

Micah
5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler [Jesus] in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

Philippians
2:6 Who [Jesus], being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:


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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Pope called Holy Father.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - The term Holy Father is only found one time in the entire Bible. It was when Jesus prayed before He and His disciples went to the garden of Gethsemane. He referred to God the Father as Holy Father. It is blasphemy to call a man by God's name

John
17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Purgatory, nuns, popes.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - None of these is mentioned in the Bible. It is a sin to add to the Bible.

Proverbs
30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.


The pope is a man who takes upon himself honor which belongs to no human being. Even the very name by which he allows himself to be called (Holy Father) is highly presumptuous and blasphemous (see above).

One does not need the pope to determine what God's will is. The Bible says that God has given the Holy Ghost to each believer and that He (the Holy Ghost) guides and leads us into all truth. All a believer needs is the Bible and the Holy Ghost to know the will of the Lord. Popery has been treacherous, but worse, each pope has been the blind leading the blind. Jesus said that both will fall into the ditch. Catholics, come out of this system that cannot save and know Jesus for youself, intimate and up-close.

NOTE: Purgatory is supposedly a place where a person is purified of sins--even popes supposedly go there. The Bible says that Jesus Christ is the one that purifies us of our sins.

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus.... When a person dies their eternal home is sealed--heaven or hell--no in between. Hebrews 9:27 ...it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Venerating/worshipping images. Pope bows to statues of Mary, people worship the eucharist and have statues/candles in their homes and churches.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - It is idolatry to venerate images. We are not even supposed to make them.

Exodus
20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God...

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - The mass. Through transubstantiation, the wafer/host and the wine supposedly become the actual blood and body of Jesus Christ when the priest prays over them.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Jesus died once for sins, never to be repeated. He sits on the right hand of God and does not reappear in the mass as a mass of blood and flesh.

Hebrews
10:12 But this man [Jesus], after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
10:13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
10:15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
John
19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

1 Corinthians
11:24 And when he [Jesus] had given thanks, he brake it [bread], and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
11:25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
11:26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come
(not for the forgiveness of sins or to receive Jesus).

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Saved, in part, by good works.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Good works are the fruits that grow out of being saved. They do not make you saved. An apple does not make its tree an apple tree, it was already an apple tree before any apples appeared. When you see the apples; however, you know what kind of tree it is. If a person is saved, he will shew forth good works because he has the spirit of Christ in him. The good works don't make him saved only the blood of Jesus can do that.

I John
1:7b ...the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
Acts 16:31b
...believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.

Romans
3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.


What about James 2:20 "faith without works is dead"?

The kind of faith that saves is a faith that shows forth the works of God. Even devils believe in Jesus and tremble (James 2:19). Many people believe in Jesus but they won't follow Him. They have a faith, but not the kind that saves. If a person has true faith in Jesus, the Holy Ghost dwells in him and will cause good works will show forth in his life. The good works confirm the faith by which the person was saved. James 2:21-23 uses Abraham as an example. Abraham believed God so when God asked him to sacrifice his son Isaac, Abraham, out of his faith in God, offered up Isaac.


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CATHOLIC TRADITION - The church is founded on Peter.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Jesus Christ is the foundation of the church. Peter was a man like you and me. Jesus called Peter Satan in Matthew 16:23 when Peter rebuked Jesus dying. When Cornelius tried to worship Peter, Peter responded, "Stand up; I myself also am a man." (Acts 10:26). The pope needs to remember Acts 10:26 when he has men bowing to him and kissing his hand like he is worthy of worship.

1 Corinthians
3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
Matthew
21:42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected [Jesus], the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Confessing sins to a priest. Petitioning saints and Mary.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - We are to confess our sins and needs to God alone.

I John
1:9 If we confess our sins, he [God] is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Matthew
6:9, 12 After this manner...pray ye: Our Father... forgive us....

1 Timothy
2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus [not Mary, not saints, not priests, not the pope];

I John 2:1, ...And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.

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There are many other scriptures that could have been used here to testify against the doctrines of the catholic cult. There are also many other doctrines of the catholic cult which could have been refuted (e.g. the sacraments, receiving the Holy Ghost, salvation through the catholic religion, penance, rosary, etc.).

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The catholic cult has a history of taking the money of poor widows in order to say masses for the dead (which do no good) and collecting the material possessions of nuns. In Italy, the heart of papism, there is an often used saying that goes, "Without money, they don't sing the mass." That is really pitiful on several fronts--1) mass is blasphemous and people who trust in it are hell-bound 2) there's no such thing as purgatory and 3) the gift of God is without price.

Roman mary worship today is probably the wealthiest government/tax-free corporation in the world. It owns a good share of America's hospitals and has healthy real estate interests. The bottom line is, if you want to get right with God, you have to go through His Son, Jesus Christ, not the Whore of Babylon (aka the catholic "church").

Praise Jesus!
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Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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It is this kind of propagandist and vitriolic attack on decency that has much of mankind fighting each other instead of behaving in the manner that out Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ would have us.


Shame on you 'Pastor' Zeke, especially at a time when Catholic and Baptist doctrine is in agreement on a number of issues from mistrust of Islam to the evils of Harry Potter!


Once again, I ask you and your ilk to kindly refrain from such spurious and specious assaults on The Church of Rome, God's Church.



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Once again, I ask you and your ilk to kindly refrain from such spurious and specious assaults on The Church of Rome, God's Church.

Well, we would NEVER assault GOD'S CHURCH (LBC of course)

On the other hand you filthy boy-loving cat-a-licks deserve being assaulted but it wasn't the case in the original post, it was just plain information.

So get you "roman" bugger-club that you call a church and go find a choir boy.

So you got 1 out of 2...

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It is this kind of propagandist and vitriolic attack on decency that has much of mankind fighting each other instead of behaving in the manner that out Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ would have us.

Shame on you 'Pastor' Zeke, especially at a time when Catholic and Baptist doctrine is in agreement on a number of issues from mistrust of Islam to the evils of Harry Potter!

Once again, I ask you and your ilk to kindly refrain from such spurious and specious assaults on The Church of Rome, God's Church.

Bless you, my hillbilly huckster,
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I notice you don't even try to actually refute any of his points. Even Thomas Martin does better than you, and he's pretty awful.
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Sweet Jesus, where do I begin?

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The roman catholic "Church" is Not Christian. I want you all to understand this.

Practically all precepts of the Roman Catholic religion contradict the Bible repeatedly. It is the largest cult in the world and most preachers will not openly say so because it is so large. For Catholics who read this, please remember this: the person that tells you the truth is the one that cares.


The person who tells the truth does care. He does NOT make personal attacks, unlike a certain little milkshakehead.

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For a glimpse of the atrocities committed by the Roman Catholic religion, do a net search on the Inquisition or the Crusades. During the Inquisition, the Catholic religion killed millions. Why? Primarily to suppress any and all opposition to the pope. Side "benefits" included taking the material wealth of its victims and showing the pope's power. The Catholic Inquisitors tortured, crippled, burned, and imprisioned millions of people. Whatever happened to love your enemies? (Matthew 5:44)

The Church never put anyone to death. They just tried heretics, and if found guilty, turned them over to local authorities for sentencing.

Also, Pope John Paul II repeatedly acknowledged the Church's sins of that time (the torture), and prayed often for God's forgiveness...I bet you wouldn't say that about Henry VIII and Elizabeth I's slaughter of us Catholics back in the 1500s...

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Before we get to specific problems with Catholic doctrine, let's review how this bloodthirsty organization treated a man who simply wanted to get the Bible into the hands of the common people. In the late 1300s John Wycilf translated the scriptures from the Latin Vulgate. Some 40 odd years after his death, the Catholic religion dug up his bones and burned them calling him an arch-heretick. In the 1500's William Tyndale sought to translate the Bible into the language of the common people, English. He could not gain approval from the Catholic religon so he worked as an outlaw on the run in Europe, translating the Bible. He was eventually captured, condemned and executed in 1536. It is because of people like these men, Tyndale and Wycliffe, that we have the scriptures today. If the Catholic religion had its way, we'd still be in ignorance about the Bible and enslaved to the pope. Time fails me here to tell of other marytrs like John Hus, John Rogers, etc. who were killed by popish persons.

And what about people like Thomas More, Mary Queen of Scots, Edmund Campion, etc. who were slaughtered under Henry VIII & later Elizabeth I?

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I'll list the catholic tradition first and then what the Bible has to say about the matter.

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* * * *
CATHOLIC TRADITION - Call priests father, e.g., Father McKinley.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS -

Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
* * * *


Okay, what do you call your male parent?

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Forbidding the priesthood to marry.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS -

1) It is devilish to forbid God's people to marry when He has given marriage to be received with thanksgiving.
1 Timothy
4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

2) Peter was married (remember the pope is supposedly continuing the apostolic line through Peter).

Matthew
8:14 And when Jesus was come into Peter's house, he saw his wife's mother laid, and sick of a fever.

Mark
1:30 But Simon's wife's mother lay sick of a fever, and anon they tell him of her.

Luke
4:38 And he arose out of the synagogue, and entered into Simon's house. And Simon's wife's mother was taken with a great fever; and they besought him for her.

3) Paul, a great apostle, remained single; however he made it very clear that he could marry if he wanted to.

1 Corinthians
9:5 Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas?

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It is a custom. We have granted exceptions to priests who were already married before they became priests. In fact, the Eastern Rite Catholics (loyal to the Pope, but maintaining their rites)...most of their priests are married.

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary never had other children after the Lord Jesus. A perpetual virgin.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Mary and Joseph indeed had children. They were the Lord's half brothers and sisters for their father was Joseph and mother was Mary.

Matthew
13:55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?
13:56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?
Mark
6:3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.

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Could somebody tell me WHY ARE YOU QUOTING THE PHARISEES?

Also, cousins and very close friends are often referred to as brothers and sisters internationally. I will quote Benjamin Franklin here:

"A brother may not be a friend, but a friend will always be a brother."

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary is the queen of heaven.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Worshipping the queen of heaven (which is not the Mary of the Bible) is worshipping another god and it provokes the Lord to anger.

Jeremiah
7:17 Seest thou not what they do in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem?
7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.
7:19 Do they provoke me to anger? saith the LORD: do they not provoke themselves to the confusion of their own faces?

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That was a PAGAN GODDESS the Lord was against-the Blessed Mother hadn't even been conceived yet, much less be the queen of heaven.

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary is the mother of God.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Mary is the mother of the earthly Jesus, not God. Jesus pre- existed from everlasting as God (see John 1:1). When He came to redeem mankind, He laid aside His glory and was made like unto sinful man so that He could take our punishment (Hebrew 2:9). God has no mother. He has lived from everlasting which means He had no beginning.

Isaiah
43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. [If Mary gave birth to God, she'd be God.]
Psalm
93:2 Thy throne is established of old: thou art from everlasting.

Micah
5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler [Jesus] in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

Philippians
2:6 Who [Jesus], being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

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If Jesus is God, and Mary is His mother, wouldn't you say Mary is the Mother of God?
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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Pope called Holy Father.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - The term Holy Father is only found one time in the entire Bible. It was when Jesus prayed before He and His disciples went to the garden of Gethsemane. He referred to God the Father as Holy Father. It is blasphemy to call a man by God's name

John
17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Purgatory, nuns, popes.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - None of these is mentioned in the Bible. It is a sin to add to the Bible.

Proverbs
30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
The pope is a man who takes upon himself honor which belongs to no human being. Even the very name by which he allows himself to be called (Holy Father) is highly presumptuous and blasphemous (see above).

One does not need the pope to determine what God's will is. The Bible says that God has given the Holy Ghost to each believer and that He (the Holy Ghost) guides and leads us into all truth. All a believer needs is the Bible and the Holy Ghost to know the will of the Lord. Popery has been treacherous, but worse, each pope has been the blind leading the blind. Jesus said that both will fall into the ditch. Catholics, come out of this system that cannot save and know Jesus for youself, intimate and up-close.

NOTE: Purgatory is supposedly a place where a person is purified of sins--even popes supposedly go there. The Bible says that Jesus Christ is the one that purifies us of our sins. Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus.... When a person dies their eternal home is sealed--heaven or hell--no in between. Hebrews 9:27 ...it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.

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And I suppose altar calls, sola scriptura, and "personal Lord and Savior" ARE in the Bible?

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Venerating/worshipping images. Pope bows to statues of Mary, people worship the eucharist and have statues/candles in their homes and churches.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - It is idolatry to venerate images. We are not even supposed to make them.

Exodus
20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God...
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CATHOLIC TRADITION - The mass. Through transubstantiation, the wafer/host and the wine supposedly become the actual blood and body of Jesus Christ when the priest prays over them.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Jesus died once for sins, never to be repeated. He sits on the right hand of God and does not reappear in the mass as a mass of blood and flesh.

Hebrews
10:12 But this man [Jesus], after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
10:13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
10:15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
John
19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

1 Corinthians
11:24 And when he [Jesus] had given thanks, he brake it [bread], and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. (This actually proves my point)
11:25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. (So does this)
11:26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come (not for the forgiveness of sins or to receive Jesus).


If you will look in the Gospels, Jesus said "This is my blood, poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins."

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Saved, in part, by good works.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Good works are the fruits that grow out of being saved. They do not make you saved. An apple does not make its tree an apple tree, it was already an apple tree before any apples appeared. When you see the apples; however, you know what kind of tree it is. If a person is saved, he will shew forth good works because he has the spirit of Christ in him. The good works don't make him saved only the blood of Jesus can do that.

I John
1:7b ...the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
Acts 16:31b
...believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.

Romans
3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

What about James 2:20 "faith without works is dead"?

The kind of faith that saves is a faith that shows forth the works of God. Even devils believe in Jesus and tremble (James 2:19). Many people believe in Jesus but they won't follow Him. They have a faith, but not the kind that saves. If a person has true faith in Jesus, the Holy Ghost dwells in him and will cause good works will show forth in his life. The good works confirm the faith by which the person was saved. James 2:21-23 uses Abraham as an example. Abraham believed God so when God asked him to sacrifice his son Isaac, Abraham, out of his faith in God, offered up Isaac.


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I will bring up "The Case Of The Sinning Minister":

Let's say your minister became a "born-again Christian" at the age of 15. Now he is 75. In the intervening 60 years the man has lived an exemplary life. So far as he or anyone else knows, he never has committed a single serious sin. But then, at age 75, comes a change. During one horrible day, he robs a bank, deliberately runs over a cat with his car, commits adultery, blasphemes loudly in public, murders a neighbor, and then commits suicide, dying unrepentant.

My question to the Fundamentalist: Does your minister go to heaven or hell?

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - The church is founded on Peter.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Jesus Christ is the foundation of the church. Peter was a man like you and me. Jesus called Peter Satan in Matthew 16:23 when Peter rebuked Jesus dying. When Cornelius tried to worship Peter, Peter responded, "Stand up; I myself also am a man." (Acts 10:26). The pope needs to remember Acts 10:26 when he has men bowing to him and kissing his hand like he is worthy of worship.

1 Corinthians
3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
Matthew
21:42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected [Jesus], the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?


The word "satan" means adversary, obstacle. Peter was trying to interfere in Jesus' passion at the time (Jesus said "Get behind me satan"-lowercase s)

I'll give you a nice little story of Jesus & Peter (takes place after the Resurrection)

When they had finished eating, Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon son of John, do you truly love me more than these?"
"Yes, Lord," he said, "you know that I love you."
Jesus said, "Feed my lambs."
16Again Jesus said, "Simon son of John, do you truly love me?"
He answered, "Yes, Lord, you know that I love you."
Jesus said, "Take care of my sheep."

17 The third time he said to him, "Simon son of John, do you love me?"
Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the third time, "Do you love me?" He said, "Lord, you know all things; you know that I love you."


Jesus said, "Feed my sheep. 18 I tell you the truth, when you were younger you dressed yourself and went where you wanted; but when you are old you will stretch out your hands, and someone else will dress you and lead you where you do not want to go." 19Jesus said this to indicate the kind of death by which Peter would glorify God. Then he said to him, "Follow me!"



That is how Jesus made Peter the first Pope, His Vicar, and Head of the Church.



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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Confessing sins to a priest. Petitioning saints and Mary.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - We are to confess our sins and needs to God alone.

I John
1:9 If we confess our sins, he [God] is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Matthew
6:9, 12 After this manner...pray ye: Our Father... forgive us....

1 Timothy
2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus [not Mary, not saints, not priests, not the pope];

I John 2:1, ...And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.

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John 20:21-23
"He therefore said to them again, 'Peace be to you! As the Father has sent Me, I also send you'. When He had said this, He breathed upon them, and said to them, 'Receive the Holy Spirit; whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained'."

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There are many other scriptures that could have been used here to testify against the doctrines of the catholic religion. There are also many other doctrines of the catholic religion which could have been refuted (e.g. the sacraments, receiving the Holy Ghost, salvation through the catholic religion, penance, rosary, etc.).

Then bring them up. I'm home all night...

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The Catholic religion has a history of taking the money of poor widows in order to say masses for the dead (which do no good) and collecting the material possessions of nuns. In Italy, the heart of Roman Catholicism, there is an often used saying that goes, "Without money, they don't sing the mass." That is really pitiful on several fronts--1) mass is blasphemous and people who trust in it are hell-bound 2) there's no such thing as purgatory and 3) the gift of God is without price.

That was an illicit practice-but has been abolished since.

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Roman Catholicism today is probably the wealthiest government in the world. It owns a good share of America's hospitals and has healthy real estate interests. The bottom line is, if you want to get right with God, you have to go through His Son, Jesus Christ, not some religious organization.

That means Landover Baptist Church, God's favorite.



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The person who tells the truth does care. He does NOT make personal attacks, unlike a certain little milkshakehead.
Does anyone else note the irony in this statement?

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The Church never put anyone to death. They just tried heretics, and if found guilty, turned them over to local authorities for sentencing.
If you mean kings, secular judges etc.. Then that just isn't true.. But even if it was:
Would it mean that you're somehow innocent of those murders then? Of course not.
If you hire a hitman to kill someone, you're pretty much as guilty of murder as if you do it yourself.

And you already know that the cathylick "church" WAS the "local authority"!
It could even make and break kings, thus making it the most powerful mortal authority at the time, both local and global.
Anyone who opposed the antichrist pope risked getting stripped of his crown.
No wonder they "agreed" to help and/or allow your dirty work.

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Also, Pope John Paul II repeatedly acknowledged the Church's sins of that time (the torture), and prayed often for God's forgiveness...I bet you wouldn't say that about Henry VIII and Elizabeth I's slaughter of us Catholics back in the 1500s...
So you admit that what you did was wrong?
What happenend to your notion of infallability doctrine-wise?
And you've just proved that you are liars and not real Christians.

He that saith,
I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1 John 2:4

Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not:
Whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
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And what about people like Thomas More, Mary Queen of Scots, Edmund Campion, etc. who were slaughtered under Henry VIII & later Elizabeth I?
What a hypocrite you are!
If anyone here was judged and killed by local authorities without involvement of a church, it was those cathylicks.
But now all of a sudden you think that's wrong..

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Play ball.
Is this some kind of pedophile-code for one or another unspeakable act that you perform on altarboys?

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Okay, what do you call your male parent?
Would you stop asking that?
Unless you actually are the literal male parent of your entire congregation, you can't use it as an excuse anyways.

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It is a custom. We have granted exceptions to priests who were already married before they became priests. In fact, the Eastern Rite Catholics (loyal to the Pope, but maintaining their rites)...most of their priests are married.
Yeah.. it's a custom (tradition), a custom that transgresses the commandments of God. Just like the pharisees did.
(Matthew 15:3-8)

A Different commandment, a different tradition, but exactly the same behavior.

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Could somebody tell me WHY ARE YOU QUOTING THE PHARISEES?
Could somebody (read: you) tell me WHY YOU ARE ACTING LIKE THEM? (See above.)

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Also, cousins and very close friends are often referred to as brothers and sisters internationally. I will quote Benjamin Franklin here:

"A brother may not be a friend, but a friend will always be a brother."
That's probably the lousiest argument I've ever heard.
So if an obviously literal use of the word brother doesn't even mean brother anymore, why does the use of the word (for example) mother still mean mother?

Stop twisting scripture, papist dog.

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That was a PAGAN GODDESS the Lord was against-the Blessed Mother hadn't even been conceived yet, much less be the queen of heaven.
If she hadn't even been conceived, how can you call her the Mother of God?
A REAL mother always predates her children, you know..
Or maybe you actually don't know.. the things cathylicks don't know could fill the Vatican archives.

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If Jesus is God, and Mary is His mother, wouldn't you say Mary is the Mother of God?
See above.
Mary was the earthly container for Jesus earthly form, that's it.

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And I suppose altar calls, sola scriptura, and "personal Lord and Savior" ARE in the Bible?
Yes.

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Okay, throw away your cameras, paintbrushes, and delete your computer graphics program! Matter of fact, get rid of this big banner on your website!
What a typical papist reaction:
You KNOW you commit a sin so instead of repenting you try to make yourself look better by trying to drag others down with you.

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If you will look in the Gospels, Jesus said "This is my blood, poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins."
And you will also find:
And as they did eat, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and brake it, and gave to them, and said, Take, eat: this is my body.
And he took the cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them: and they all drank of it.
And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many.
Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God.
Mark 14:22-25

Jesus Himself says He's drinking wine, fool.

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I will bring up "The Case Of The Sinning Minister":

Let's say your minister became a "born-again Christian" at the age of 15. Now he is 75. In the intervening 60 years the man has lived an exemplary life. So far as he or anyone else knows, he never has committed a single serious sin. But then, at age 75, comes a change. During one horrible day, he robs a bank, deliberately runs over a cat with his car, commits adultery, blasphemes loudly in public, murders a neighbor, and then commits suicide, dying unrepentant.

My question to the Fundamentalist: Does your minister go to heaven or hell?
Of course he would go to hell!
He would never have been Saved to begin with if he acted like that! (1 John 3:6-7)
If you had read the Bible you would KNOW that the Saved CANNOT FALL FROM GRACE. (John 10:27-29)

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The word "satan" means adversary, obstacle. Peter was trying to interfere in Jesus' passion at the time (Jesus said "Get behind me satan"-lowercase s)
The story goes to prove that Peter was quite fallible doctrine-wise.
So if not even Peter was infallible, how could any pope ever be?

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That is how Jesus made Peter the first Pope, His Vicar, and Head of the Church.
Show me where it says that He is made pope..
That isn't in the Bible, and the office didn't even exist yet.
Also show me where the power God gives to Peter is supposed to be passed on to another..
Especially another who isn't even chosen by God, but by a council of mortal men!

You can't, beacuse it isn't there.
There is no Biblical base for the office of pope, you've only turned to the story of Peter in a futile attempt to validate your pathetic excuse of a "church"..
Just too bad for you Peter never preached to the gentiles nor set foot in Rome.
You should have checked if your lies hold water first.. (Galatians 2:7-9)

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John 20:21-23
"He therefore said to them again, 'Peace be to you! As the Father has sent Me, I also send you'. When He had said this, He breathed upon them, and said to them, 'Receive the Holy Spirit; whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained'."
I'll ask (basically) the same question again:
Where does it say that the power God gave to the apostles is supposed to be passed on?
Especially on people YOU and not God, chose?

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That was an illicit practice-but has been abolished since.
If your doctrines couldn't be trusted then, why should they be trusted now?
As I said.. what happened your silly notions of being infallible doctrine-wise?

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Other way around, fool..
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Well thank you for that, pal. We are blessed by your persecution!

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5:12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
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[quote=Pastor Ezekiel;141271]Well thank you for that, pal. We are blessed by your persecution!

How are you blessed?
You would be lucky if god spat on you.
BTW Pastor Ezekiel you do know that you are a Jew.
Ezekiel is a Jew name and the only way you could have that name is if your origins were Jew.
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[quote=Pastor Ezekiel;141271]Well thank you for that, pal. We are blessed by your persecution!

I see that poster is in Quarantine and others have been banned. I would not call you REDNECK SCUM, for you are far more dangerous than REDNECK SCUM. This forum is unholy on its face, "Beware of False Prophets" You speak twisted truths. Quote from an improperly translated Bible, King James I would guess. The level of vitriol and hatred here is as riduculous as the Islamo-fascists. Every time I turn around there is some Altar boy crack, you all must be turned on by that thought or it would not be your gut retaliation to anything Catholic. Just like preaching the ills of alcohol while hiding your drinking and hedonism from your own people. That is hippocritical. Also what happened to "Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged", that right and privilege is for God only not the mere falliable mortal men we all are, so stop the hatred. I guess I will get banned after this post, but so be it. Closed minds think alike.
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How are you blessed?
You would be lucky if god spat on you.
BTW Pastor Ezekiel you do know that you are a Jew.
Ezekiel is a Jew name and the only way you could have that name is if your origins were Jew.
Now I know you can't respond because Jesus has chosen to remove you from this Forum, but for those that might venture along to see this, I want to point out that this poster obviously has no concept of reality, since Pastor Ezekiel is 100% American, and named after the prophet whom God deemed worthy to write part of the Bible. In fact, it is one of the Books most often used to prove the Bible correct, which means that he lives up to his namesake
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You make all of these judgments about us:
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  • you are far more dangerous than REDNECK SCUM
  • This forum is unholy on its face
  • "Beware of False Prophets"
  • You speak twisted truths.
  • Quote from an improperly translated Bible
  • The level of vitriol and hatred here is as riduculous as the Islamo-fascists.
  • Every time I turn around there is some Altar boy crack, you all must be turned on by that thought
  • stop the hatred
  • Closed minds think alike.
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Also what happened to "Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged"
Why don't you tell us what happened to "Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged", friend?

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mate the roman catholic church was the first christian church you idiot therefore by your logic christianity is a cult also.






(which it is lol)







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mate the roman catholic church was the first christian church you idiot
Could you prove that please?
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yep i can.

its called the ROMAN catholic church, a name which wasnt used by around the fall of the roman empire in AD 286 why call the roman catholic church unless it was started by the romans.
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yep i can.

its called the ROMAN catholic church, a name which wasnt used by around the fall of the roman empire in AD 286 why call the roman catholic church unless it was started by the romans.
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yep i can.

its called the ROMAN catholic church, a name which wasnt used by around the fall of the roman empire in AD 286 why call the roman catholic church unless it was started by the romans.
My word, but you're confused. First, the Roman Empire did not fall in AD 286. Second, how does being started by the Romans make it the first? Rome is inhabited to this day, if being full of Italian Mary-hailers counts as being inhabited; if any of them were to to start a church today, it would qualify as Roman, but not as the first.
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the roman empire was inhabited by romans in the peek of their power, its like me starting a religion and people saying it was british but others saying it was a londoners religion because it was started in and by people who live in london.
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the roman empire was inhabited by romans in the peek of their power, its like me starting a religion and people saying it was british but others saying it was a londoners religion because it was started in and by people who live in london.
The so called Catlick church, The Mother of Whoredoms, lead by the Anti-Christ, the vicar of Rome has never been Christian - it is its own religion, quite separated from Christianity. It discards the Holy Bible and writes its own rubbish as a mockery of God.

Archbishop Ussher 1664:"The religion of the papists is superstitious and idolatrous; their faith and doctrine erroneous and heretical; their church in respect of both, apostatical; to give them therefore a toleration, or to consent that they may freely exercise their religion, and profess their faith and doctrine, is a grievous sin."

All papists, men, women, children, the sick, stupid, lame and lazy, will burn in Hell-Fire.
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