[JakubDovac]

Re: Day 288. Matthew 16-18

Hallelujah, Jesus is Lord.

Paul was an apostle inspired by God and his mission was God given


Acts 13:12


As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.


Paul was not taught by men but from the teachings of the Holy Spirit of Christ.




1 peter 2:18-21


And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.
We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.


The bible is the surest word of prophecy, we have to thank God for His Holy words and be grateful indeed as Christians by obeying the bible

Amen unto that.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Day 288. Matthew 16-18

Acts 13:2-4 As they [Barnabas, Simeon, Lucius, Manaen, Saul] ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them. And when they had fasted and prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away. So they, being sent forth by the Holy Ghost, departed unto Seleucia; and from thence they sailed to Cyprus.

Paul was not taught by men but from the teachings of the Holy Spirit of Christ.

The teachings Paul had been instructed in were teachings of the Pharisees. Although they had The Law to guide them, what they taught was false. Paul stepped free of those teachings when he saw Christ for what He really was. You can step free too. Jesus told Paul (he was still called Saul then) about true freedom but others were also aware of The Good News.

II Peter 1:16-19 We have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount. We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts.

Astrologists in these last days are desperate to deceive everyone, gawping at stars and planets and the moon, burning incense to all the host of heaven. Paul on the other hand was taught by Jesus Himself.

Matthew 17:1-5 After six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart, and was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him. Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias. While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.

[JakubDovac]

Re: Day 288. Matthew 16-18

And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. Galatians 5:24

[Collinslaw]

Re: Day 288. Matthew 16-18

That is a lovely Testimony from Paul. Although he was not taught about Jesus, he had learned some material with which he disagreed. Otherwise he would not have been persecuting Christians.

But he stopped doing that.

He would also have had to learn what Scripture contained as he explains here but that doesn't mean he was taught it. Paul had been a Pharisee Acts 23:6 and in this passage has been teaching The Good News.

I Corinthians 15:1-4 I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; by which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures.

Hallelujah, Jesus is Lord.

Paul was an apostle inspired by God and his mission was God given


Acts 13:12


As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.


Paul was not taught by men but from the teachings of the Holy Spirit of Christ.




1 peter 2:18-21


And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.
We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.


The bible is the surest word of prophecy, we have to thank God for His Holy words and be grateful indeed as Christians by obeying the bible

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Day 288. Matthew 16-18

Galatians 1:12

For i neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

That is a lovely Testimony from Paul. Although he was not taught about Jesus, he had learned some material with which he disagreed. Otherwise he would not have been persecuting Christians.

But he stopped doing that.

He would also have had to learn what Scripture contained as he explains here but that doesn't mean he was taught it. Paul had been a Pharisee Acts 23:6 and in this passage has been teaching The Good News.

I Corinthians 15:1-4 I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; by which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures.

[Collinslaw]

Re: Day 288. Matthew 16-18

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These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. [/COLOR][COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.87)]But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. [/COLOR]

[Collinslaw]

Re: Day 288. Matthew 16-18

You do understand that non-Christians can post, providing they are not abusive? Even catholics, who are the least Christian of all because a Zen (for instance) doesn't claim to be Christian and just gets on with the pagan. Popes, on the other hand, claim to be Christ's actual representative but in all cases and at every opportunity do the exact opposite of what He taught. Various other sects and cults get to comment as well. Let's face it, if they already understood The Truth there'd be no Truth to lead them to, would there?

Interpretation of Scripture is a good example. God is absolutely explicit on this, interpretations are a denial of The Holy Ghost

II Peter 1:16-21 We have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount. We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Very true,


Galatians 1:12


For i neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Day 288. Matthew 16-18

I appreciate the fact that people here have different interpretation on the readings today.

You do understand that non-Christians can post, providing they are not abusive? Even catholics, who are the least Christian of all because a Zen (for instance) doesn't claim to be Christian and just gets on with the pagan. Popes, on the other hand, claim to be Christ's actual representative but in all cases and at every opportunity do the exact opposite of what He taught. Various other sects and cults get to comment as well. Let's face it, if they already understood The Truth there'd be no Truth to lead them to, would there?

I appreciate the fact that people here have different interpretation on the readings today.

Interpretation of Scripture is a good example. God is absolutely explicit on this, interpretations are a denial of The Holy Ghost

II Peter 1:16-21 We have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount. We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

[Basilissa]

Re: Day 288. Matthew 16-18

I appreciate the fact that people here have different interpretation on the readings today.

Different interpretations, that's exactly what happens when people treat the Scriptures merely as guidelines to cherry pick from, instead of following 100% of the Bible literally.

[mrgrtt123]

Re: Day 288. Matthew 16-18

I appreciate the fact that people here have different interpretation on the readings today.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Day 288. Matthew 16-18

You are equivocating. But more interestingly, the verses you've cited do not mention the word "tithe" at all! Is this what happens when you declaim The Bible as GUIDELINES?

Luke 21:1-4 And he [Jesus] looked up, and saw the rich men casting their gifts into the treasury. And he saw also a certain poor widow casting in thither two mites. And he said, Of a truth I say unto you, that this poor widow hath cast in more than they all: for all these have of their abundance cast in unto the offerings of God: but she of her penury hath cast in all the living that she had.

When kings (or other administrative bodies) levy a charge, such as import duty, there is an element of coercion. Usually quite strong. Smuggling brandy carries severe penalties for example and running a business "off the books" gets you some serious time. The widow contributed 100% voluntarily and was praised by Jesus. In your model He should have said, "Oi! OI!! Youse over there!!! Get ’ere with that treasury key! Go on!! Go on!!! Open ’re up, give back the two mites," (toys with whip) because when inappropriate means were used for revenue raining in other circumstances He's taken a very direct approach hadn't He.

Jesus’ time having come TO BEGIN HIS MINISTRY is not the same as Jesus’ time having come TO END HIS MINISTRY. The distinction is obvious to any two-year-old LEADING UP TO a birthday party and then AS IT'S ABOUT TO FINISH. You seem to like BIG LETTERS so I've used a few here for you.

Because if threats were made by Churches to get money out of their congregations, that would be EXTORTION. And extortion rackets are against the law. Perhaps in your Scripture knowledge class you missed Titus 3:1-11?

[Paul Tarzan]

Re: Day 288. Matthew 16-18

Please note Jesus did produce a fish with money in its mouth, thus setting an example.

Are you saying we should not follow His example? I mean, not everyone can provide tithes by fishing money-vomiting fish, but I'd say other means of procuring money will suffice. So basically, we are allowed to complain but we still need to produce the required money.

That was only because his "hour had not yet come"...

[Basilissa]

Re: Day 288. Matthew 16-18

I notice you skipped Matthew 17:25-26.

That's because in it, Jesus taught that tithing is NOT to be mandatory among Christians.

Please note Jesus did produce a fish with money in its mouth, thus setting an example.

Are you saying we should not follow His example? I mean, not everyone can provide tithes by fishing money-vomiting fish, but I'd say other means of procuring money will suffice. So basically, we are allowed to complain but we still need to produce the required money.

[Paul Tarzan]

Re: Day 288. Matthew 16-18

I notice you skipped Matthew 17:25-26.

That's because in it, Jesus taught that tithing is NOT to be mandatory among Christians.

[Brother V]

Re: Day 288. Matthew 16-18

The lord listed in chapter 18 is what kids would call an "indian giver", we can just think of him as a Jew.