[handmaiden]

Re: Jesus was a migrant, Matthew 2:13-14 says so

There is also a verse a little further along in which the beloved is compared to a company of horses. If you are determined to claim affinity, do tell--is it the teeth or the smell?

[I Man Rastafari]

Re: Jesus was a migrant, Matthew 2:13-14 says so

Then how do you accommodate descriptions of complexion in, for example, Song of Solomon 5:10-14 or I Samuel 17:41-45?

Sistren I am not a biblical scholar but I have some small knowledge of it's contents as much was taught to me at the Methodist School in Kingston which is my home city in Jamaica. There are many things I have read in the Bible that I do not overstand but one thing I have read in the Bible is The Song of Solomon which you have generously offered and very early in Chapter 1 verse 5 we see that it says "I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon."-Song of Solomon 1:5. I do not mean to be argumentative but clearly he is saying he is a Black man.

Jah Guide!
Trevor

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Jesus was a migrant, Matthew 2:13-14 says so

Then how do you accommodate descriptions of complexion in, for example, Song of Solomon 5:10-14 or I Samuel 17:41-45?

[I Man Rastafari]

Re: Jesus was a migrant, Matthew 2:13-14 says so

Have you ever actually seen a Jew?

Greetings Sistren!

I see the Black Israelites protesting the white man in front of the White House every time I go there to join forces with others who are working diligently against President Donald Trump by carrying signs with good slogans and yelling at white tourists. Here in Babylon I have also met many white people who think they are Jews but they are not Jews because the true Jews are Black men.

Jah Guide!
Trevor

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Jesus was a migrant, Matthew 2:13-14 says so

Nobody "migrated" to Egypt. The family hung out for a while and then went back home where they belonged.

On the other hand, could we say the vatican is a refugee dump? Cardinals and archbishops and ordinaries and metropolitans and (titles of self-aggrandisement they bestow upon themselves) seem to hole up there when the finances come under scrutiny.

At 6:11 reference is made to "various elements that surrounded him," but of course Calvi was not ordained however many directorships vatican personnel held on the boards of Caribbean shell companies, if any. Under the circumstances that is certainly a form of refuge. Do its residents qualify as refugees?

[handmaiden]

Re: Jesus was a migrant, Matthew 2:13-14 says so

Jesus wasn't a migrant; He was on an extended visa for a couple of years.

The Lord ordered Joseph to take Mary and Jesus to Egypt for a little while to keep Baby Jesus safe. And also because of the verse about calling my son out of Egypt.


God wanted to make certain that He checked off all of the necessary Old Testament verses so people would know that Jesus was fortold about in His Word.


Nobody "migrated" to Egypt. The family hung out for a while and then went back home where they belonged.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Jesus was a migrant, Matthew 2:13-14 says so

After studying a bit the Bible and listening what our Holy Father Francis, i also came to the conclusion that Jesus was a migrant. Here are the Bible verse that proves that Jesus was a migrant: (Matthew 2:13-14) 13 When they had gone, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream. “Get up,” he said, “take the child and his mother and escape to Egypt. Stay there until I tell you, for Herod is going to search for the child to kill him.” 14 So he got up, took the child and his mother during the night and left for Egypt But it's not over yet, Jesus was not the only character in the Bible who was a migrant. Moses, for example, along with it's fellow Isrealites, were all refugees who seeked hospitality. Also, the Bible clearly tells us: (Leviticus 19:33-34) When a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God. So this means that you have to guest all the Mexican Immigrant in your own country, since they are mostly Christians. Likewise, we, the Original Church, are doing our hospitality towards the african people and we even let them sleep in our beds. Also, dont' forget about St. Francesca Saverio Cabrini, the patron Saint of immigrants.
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I must be going soft in the head. Normally I'd stop reading at "Francis" Matthew 23:9 but I went on, ignoring your witch icon as best I could, and was again startled by your ignorance concerning Moses? Is it? Or maybe you simply hadn't read the historical record. Here is the next section:

After studying a bit the Bible and listening what our Holy Father Francis, i also came to the conclusion that Jesus was a migrant. Here are the Bible verse that proves that Jesus was a migrant: (Matthew 2:13-14) 13 When they had gone, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream. “Get up,” he said, “take the child and his mother and escape to Egypt. Stay there until I tell you, for Herod is going to search for the child to kill him.” 14 So he got up, took the child and his mother during the night and left for Egypt But it's not over yet, Jesus was not the only character in the Bible who was a migrant. Moses, for example, along with it's fellow Isrealites, were all refugees who seeked hospitality. Also, the Bible clearly tells us: (Leviticus 19:33-34) When a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God. So this means that you have to guest all the Mexican Immigrant in your own country, since they are mostly Christians. Likewise, we, the Original Church, are doing our hospitality towards the african people and we even let them sleep in our beds. Also, dont' forget about St. Francesca Saverio Cabrini, the patron Saint of immigrants.
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Yes, there was a period when The Israelites sought refuge. In Egypt. But then they STOPPED BEING REFUGEES and went home. That is the period when they were led by Moses, when they had stopped being refugees and were GOING HOME. You even included the Scripture where this is made explicit; in my final excerpt:

After studying a bit the Bible and listening what our Holy Father Francis, i also came to the conclusion that Jesus was a migrant. Here are the Bible verse that proves that Jesus was a migrant: Matthew 2:13-14) 13 When they had gone, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream. “Get up,” he said, “take the child and his mother and escape to Egypt. Stay there until I tell you, for Herod is going to search for the child to kill him.” 14 So he got up, took the child and his mother during the night and left for Egypt But it's not over yet, Jesus was not the only character in the Bible who was a migrant. Moses, for example, along with it's fellow Isrealites, were all refugees who seeked hospitality. Also, the Bible clearly tells us: (Leviticus 19:33-34) When a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God. So this means that you have to guest all the Mexican Immigrant in your own country, since they are mostly Christians. Likewise, we, the Original Church, are doing our hospitality towards the african people and we even let them sleep in our beds. Also, dont' forget about St. Francesca Saverio Cabrini, the patron Saint of immigrants.
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WERE strangers in the land of Egypt. PAST TENSE, the stranger or refugee epoch having concluded as soon as they hoofed it out of Egypt. The fact of squatters moving in on their home, the land given to them by God (and could there be any more substantial a title deed?) is irrelevant to whether they were then refugees and in any case has been covered already. You seem to be using the NIV so I checked to make sure:

Leviticus 19:33-34 And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him. But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

It is quite clear that when Moses was leading the Israelites they were ex-refugees no longer seeking refuge but on their way home. The Bible tells us that at this stage they were wealthy with the spoils of Egypt, but from time to time without food. Also unimportant because then God provided directly.

Exodus 12:34-36 The people took their dough before it was leavened, their kneadingtroughs being bound up in their clothes upon their shoulders. And the children of Israel did according to the word of Moses; and they borrowed of the Egyptians jewels of silver, and jewels of gold, and raiment: and the LORD gave the people favour in the sight of the Egyptians, so that they lent unto them such things as they required. And they spoiled the Egyptians.

They may have depleted their gold reserves however during the episode of the golden calf.

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

Re: Jesus was a migrant, Matthew 2:13-14 says so

Really? You're going to argue in favor of open borders, and as your example you'll talk about a civilization that was destroyed by migrants?

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Jesus was a migrant, Matthew 2:13-14 says so

Jesus was not a migrant but he was a Black prophet sent by Jah to his people who were the Jews who were Black men.

Have you ever actually seen a Jew?

[Isabella White]

Re: Jesus was a migrant, Matthew 2:13-14 says so

jesus was probably a white negro.

Well, well, well -- that was mildly interesting, Miss Eliasen. Kindly do tell us: how are you liking being "ON MODERATION"?


Sincerely, Isabella W.

[Kyrre Eliasen]

Re: Jesus was a migrant, Matthew 2:13-14 says so

jesus was probably a white negro.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Jesus was a migrant, Matthew 2:13-14 says so

After studying a bit the Bible and listening what our Holy Father Francis, i also came to the conclusion that Jesus was a migrant. Here are the Bible verse that proves that Jesus was a migrant:

As Jesus created the World, it is hard to see why he could be a "migrant" anywhere.



It's rather like building your own house and then someone saying you don't belong there, isn't it.

remember to always follow what Jesus says.

A wise man takes his own advice...

[I Man Rastafari]

Re: Jesus was a migrant, Matthew 2:13-14 says so

If you have twisted a joint...

Yes Sistren I have done exactly that as soon as I arose this morning as I do every morning. Thus I am in communion with Jah.

Jesus was not a migrant but he was a Black prophet sent by Jah to his people who were the Jews who were Black men. All the white people knew Jesus was a prophet of Jah but they could not acknowledge a Black Messiah so they have tried to turn him into an Englishman. The English steal everything they can get their hands on even Jesus.

Jah Guide!
Trevor

[Basilissa]

Re: Jesus was a migrant, Matthew 2:13-14 says so

Jesus looks like me, he was a norwegian like his father.

Please forgive us, sweetie, for not believing in your word, but we prefer to trust the Bible rather than some random stranger on the internet. I hope you understand.

[Kyrre Eliasen]

Re: Jesus was a migrant, Matthew 2:13-14 says so

Jesus looks like me, he was a norwegian like his father.