[Mproulx]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

I do not see where the bible includes rape or force in this passage according to the KJV. Is it not a sin to put words into the bible?

Any true christian who is an honest man would put down such action and see that a man who rapes a woman is punished according to the law, not rewarded by allowing to keep what he stole. Sick perverse men condone such action by interpreting Gods word for their own means.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

I think you have to put it in context. They didn't know about other continents back then so when the Middle East, Africa, and eastern Europe all flooded, they thought it was the whole world. I mean, they keep finding pieces of the Ark on Mount Ararat in Turkey, so we know Turkey flooded at least. But other that certain types of rocks that could have been made during other smaller floods, you can't really say for sure weather it flooded in north and south America.

But for the verse about marrying your rapist that was true back then and serious Jews should probably still do it (logically, since they don't accept Jesus) but we have a New Covenant now. Its one of the prophecies that were fulfilled by Jesus (see Jeremiah 31:31 for example).

Hebrews 8:13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.

So when the water was flooding right over the top of mount Ararat it didn't run away sideways and cover the rest of the mountains as well; it sort of piled up just on the mountains that the ancient Hebrews knew?

Look, friend, there are kangaroos now so there were kangaroos on the ark, OK!

[handmaiden]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

I think you have to put it in context. They didn't know about other continents back then so when the Middle East, Africa, and eastern Europe all flooded, they thought it was the whole world. I mean, they keep finding pieces of the Ark on Mount Ararat in Turkey, so we know Turkey flooded at least. But other that certain types of rocks that could have been made during other smaller floods, you can't really say for sure weather it flooded in north and south America.

But for the verse about marrying your rapist that was true back then and serious Jews should probably still do it (logically, since they don't accept Jesus) but we have a New Covenant now. Its one of the prophecies that were fulfilled by Jesus (see Jeremiah 31:31 for example).

Hebrews 8:13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.

So, do you care to trot out a verse from the New Testament that specfically say that we are to believe in God's Word and obey the instructions of the Bible except for Deuteronomy 22:28?

And where does it say in the Bible that God's Word was true "back then" but not true today?

For that matter, why would an External God put statutes of limitations on His Own statutes? That would be illogical to the point of crazyiness.

You believing such ideas as you have expressed is also illogical, as to whether or not you are crazy, I am not in a position to determine at this moment. You are deluded, however. That I can declare with supreme confidence.


Supercilliously Yours,

Handmaiden

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

I think you have to put it in context. They didn't know about other continents back then...

Surely GOD, who CREATED the continents knew about them.

Wanna try again?

[Integra-T]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

Right...

Let's do a simple idiot test.

What does God mean here?

Genesis 7:17-24
17And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth. 18And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters. 19And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered. 20Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered. 21And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man: 22All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died. 23And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark. 24And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days.

I know this is not about rape but I'm starting real slow. Did God actually kill everyone and everything except for what was on the ark?

Because it definitely SAYS so. Pray tell us what God MEANS.

I think you have to put it in context. They didn't know about other continents back then so when the Middle East, Africa, and eastern Europe all flooded, they thought it was the whole world. I mean, they keep finding pieces of the Ark on Mount Ararat in Turkey, so we know Turkey flooded at least. But other that certain types of rocks that could have been made during other smaller floods, you can't really say for sure weather it flooded in north and south America.

But for the verse about marrying your rapist that was true back then and serious Jews should probably still do it (logically, since they don't accept Jesus) but we have a New Covenant now. Its one of the prophecies that were fulfilled by Jesus (see Jeremiah 31:31 for example).

Hebrews 8:13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

I see our dear Tyce fancies himself as pope - the interpreter of the Holy Bible because apparently the Holy Ghost isn't nearly as capable as Super Tyce.

Heh! The question of the Flood always rattles the unbelievers and false Christians. There's no easy way out of the FACT that God did indeed wipe the earth clean to start again with only a righteous man's family and an ark full of animals but no plants to repopulate.

And yet by His divine power here is the whole world perfect as He intended. The works of the Lord are marvellous indeed and just the fact that He achieved all this in the face of all their scepticism and talk of metaphor shows how the rest of His word has to be similarly heeded and taken as much at face value.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

Because it definitely SAYS so. Pray tell us what God MEANS.

I see our dear Tyce fancies himself as pope - the interpreter of the Holy Bible because apparently the Holy Ghost isn't nearly as capable as Super Tyce.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

That may be what it says but I'm pretty sure thats not what it means.

Right...

Let's do a simple idiot test.

What does God mean here?

Genesis 7:17-24
17And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth. 18And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters. 19And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered. 20Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered. 21And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man: 22All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died. 23And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark. 24And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days.

I know this is not about rape but I'm starting real slow. Did God actually kill everyone and everything except for what was on the ark?

Because it definitely SAYS so. Pray tell us what God MEANS.

[handmaiden]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

Wow, people get so worked up about this verse. I don't know if it is because they hate God so much and will look for any excuse to flout His Will or if it is because they are so desperate to cling to their delusions about "Buddy Christ", as He was so disgustingly represented in the movie "Dogma". *

As legal precedent goes, it is really quite clear. But people just looove to argue and claim that they know better. Sad, really; we all know that laws are meant to better our lives.


All that I can say is that it is yet another example of God's love that He took the time to spell out His thoughts on the subject so simply and preserved His Word so perfectly throughout the generations.


Equanimically Yours,

Handmaiden


* Everyone associated with this movie is damned.

[Integra-T]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

That may be what it says but I'm pretty sure thats not what it means.

[VictoryOS]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

true

What are you saying is "true"? With 195 posts before yours, we need a little bit of context to know which side you're on and what you think is "true".

If you're saying the Word of God is true, then we all agree with you but at the same time we don't need confirmation from a random poster to know that.

[doctore]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

true

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap

Seriously?

Seriously!

For the mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed; but my kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed, saith the LORD that hath mercy on thee.
Isaiah 54:10

Our LORD is a faithful and kind and merciful Lord!

Praise God!

[askeras]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rap

Anyway, he hypothetically answered you back a ways. You rape our daughter, you don't live to see the next day.

Seriously?

28If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
29Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

And you call yourself BelieverInGod.. oh please. Kill the rapist of your daughter -> Burn in hell.

[Razzlo]

Re: DEUTERONOMY 22:28 If a woman is raped, she MUST marry her rapist.

But the rapist obviously values your daughter. It is a win/win situation. You get rid of a filthy harlot, and the rapist obtains a wife.

indeed..it is a great outcome