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  • MitzaLizalor
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    Re: God Hates Cripples

    It was suggested in an earlier post (#600) that people somehow have the power to generate Salvation. .

    I will do everything in my power to ensure that I do go to Heaven.
    I had replied (#604) that Jesus does not admit people to Heaven because they have done "everything in [..their own..]. power" to make merit. After all if that were the case there'd be no need for Jesus: God would just tell us what to do, we'd do it and go to Heaven. As it is, there are all sorts of different methods proposed from all sorts of superstitious belief systems which mostly disagree with each other or, if they do agree, contradict what God has explained in The Bible. This thread is not about differences between superstitions and it was appropriate to remind the poster what God has described. These are not my ideas..all that's necessary is to read The Bible..and I wondered how inclusionists would deal with them.

    If the "differences" of others are so unimportant that they ought to be overlooked, why does God EXCLUDE so many "different" people from His presence?
    blemished people
    blind people
    lame people
    people with different. shaped noses (specifically: flat)
    daughters of clergymen who choose to work as prostitutes (additionally they are to be burnt alive)
    people with broken feet
    people with broken hands
    DEFORMITIES AND PARASITES ALSO UNACCEPTABLE
    people who are different. because they have crooked backs
    people who are different. because they are dwarves
    people with blemished eyes
    people with scurvy
    people with scabs
    people with damaged testicles

    God EXCLUDES these (and many other degenerate types) from His presence BECAUSE they are different.

    That is God's commandment. Leviticus 21:1.ff READ ABOUT IT HERE. You are the one challenging The Bible. The burden of proof lies with you. Saying "people shouldn't be discriminated against or excluded just because they are different" is not proof..God explains who is prohibited..There is no place for alternative points of view

    Revelation 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and
    honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy
    pleasure they are and were created.




    God's Love is Perfect. He created us for His pleasure but what gives God pleasure is not the same as what gives us pleasure and He has explained to us..because if we just thought up stuff for ourselves we'd come up with garbage..the sorts of people He'd welcome into His congregation. The topic had arisen in another thread that year. A dear friend was wondering about righteous cripples (#14) and I tried to find an example (#15) for him, although I didn't think there were. any righteous cripples because if they were righteous they wouldn't be cripples. But it's a moot point. Whatever their righteousness quotient turns out to be, they're not allowed in The Lord's assembly. Full Stop.

    But the question might bear examination, and there was one instance of a lifelong impairment not resulting from sin. Jesus says this explicitly. It's just one facet of God's Perfect Love in action.

    John 9:1-3 And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth. And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.


    Clearly he was still smitten, but God smote him from birth (usually the result of sexual impropriety), throughout his childhood and as he was growing up enduring the taunts of other young men his own age who were able to seek wives, listening to the proud and happy laughter of young fathers in the company of their legitimate heirs (while he knew only shame and abandonment), hearing about the exploits and business successes of those from whom he sought alms and enduring the indignity of dogs urinating on him because of God's Perfect Love and to show us how His works might be made manifest not only in this wretched blind beggar but in the whole world!

    Shout Glory!

    That is a great example of something created by God for His own pleasure which, from a human perspective, seems outrageous. The wretch could sit outside the building but was prohibited from entering it. Another wretch was crippled from birth and was also excluded:

    Acts 3:1-8 Now Peter and John went up together into the temple at the hour of prayer, being the ninth hour. And a certain man lame from his mother's womb was carried, whom they laid daily at the gate of the temple which is called Beautiful, to ask alms of them that entered into the temple; who seeing Peter and John about to go into the temple asked an alms. And Peter, fastening his eyes upon him with John, said, Look on us. And he gave heed unto them, expecting to receive something of them. Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk. And he took him by the right hand, and lifted him up: and immediately his feet and ankle bones received strength. And he leaping up stood, and walked, and entered with them into the temple, walking, and leaping, and praising God.


    Once healed this crippled person enjoyed a change of status. Similarly, the blind beggar:

    John 9:8 The neighbours therefore, and they which before had seen him that he was blind, said, Is not this he that sat and begged?


    Neither wretch was permitted to enter the Congregation of The Lord while they were deformed. It was only after they'd been made whole that they could enter, whether they'd been lame or blind.

    But there is also spiritual blindness. Today's vatican mirrors the unbelief of ancient jewry just as much as the false "christianity" of demonic sects (Presbyterianism for example) and although Jesus addressed The Jews, His words condemn all false shepherds:
    John 9:39-41 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind. And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also? Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.
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  • Ezekiel Bathfire
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    Originally posted by Dennis Lukes View Post
    I'm proud to say that my business, the Blood of Christ Motel, is handicap INaccessible.
    Normally, I would have reservations about this approach because John:9:1-5 tells us that creating cripples is God's Way of advertising His Powers, but as I know that your motel plays Christian music, Christian Radio stations, only Christian TV channels and shows Christian movies, I feel you are "playing your part" in helping to create the circumstances for Christ to return and kill one third of the population of Earth.

    Personally, having stayed at the motel (I had become exhausted working with my personal secretary, Ms Rita Chevrolet) I can say that the absence of horrific abominations was a blessing. I assure you that nobody wants to wander towards breakfast and see a twitching, incontinent drooling from a wheel chair.

    Keep up the good work!

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  • Dennis Lukes
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    Originally posted by liberalnightmare View Post
    God hates a lot of people. He is a sad, sad man.
    God is not a man, He is God.


    When you become an omnipotent being and create your own universe, you can do whatever you want with it. As for those of us living in reality, we're stuck with God's universe. He can hate whoever He wants, and none of us have any say in the matter. It's His way or the highway to Hell.

    Pick up a KJV 1611 Holy Bible and follow it, girl. It's your ONLY hope. It's the only hope for any of us.

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  • liberalnightmare
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    God hates a lot of people. He is a sad, sad man.

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  • MitzaLizalor
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    God rejects well defined categories of "disabled" persons from His congregation. Satan commanded his devils to occupy them but in Christ all are set free! (Except the devils themselves, obviously.)

    Heathens just make it up as they go along which, as if they'd never referred to Scripture, produced palpably false doctrine. God explains that Christians heal not only "the disabled" but demoniacs too.

    If they remain demon possessed (for example being unable to process language) we know those accepting them into the congregation have no authority from Christ.

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  • Dennis Lukes
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    I'm proud to say that my business, the Blood of Christ Motel, is handicap INaccessible. I refuse to give them their own reserved parking places like they're some kind of VIP. Room numbers are not also posted in Braille. The doorways are not wide enough to accommodate the wheelchairs those lazy bastards ride around in. You wouldn't imagine the shock on their faces when they show up in my lobby and are told that they will not receive special privileges. I swear, cripples act even more entitled than the coloreds! God intended these twisted abominations to suffer; accommodating them is blasphemy.

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  • Mary Etheldreda
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    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
    Michael J. Fox "selfie."

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Michael J. Fox "selfie."

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  • Cranky Old Man
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    Originally posted by thomasaquin View Post
    i have pee`d in your holy water (several times)
    and from now on i will shit in every church on the carpet ,you are the same like these angry muslims
    You seem to be confusing us with child raping Catholics. We do not have holy water, we have a Holy Bible! Also we are not angry.

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  • thomasaquin
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    i have pee`d in your holy water (several times)
    and from now on i will shit in every church on the carpet ,





    you are the same like these angry muslims

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Originally posted by Patriot of the U.S.A View Post
    but they can eat of the holy bread, and Jesus did heal cripples, so where in the Bible does it actually SAY that God HATES cripples? Chapter and verse please.
    Eat of the WHAT!?

    Where is "holy bread" mentioned in God's Holy Word? Chapter and verse please.

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  • Capt. Aaron Portway
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    Originally posted by Patriot of the U.S.A View Post
    I know I said that would be my last post, but I had to point something out.

    (quote) "We don't just come out with stuff in an earnest way that will bamboozle or overpower the people we talk to so we feel clever."

    Sorry to break the news to you, but that's EXACTLY what you do to people who aren't great debaters.
    I've read a bunch of your scripture-twisting posts now, and I could have used this response to any of them. See if you can follow this:

    1. The KJV1611 Bible is the perfect and inerrant Word of God.

    2. We follow EVERY SINGLE WORD of the One True Bible© and we back up EVERYTHING WE SAY with Scripture.

    3. You seem to have a problem with EVERY SINGLE THING WE SAY on this forum.

    4. Therefore, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH GOD and EVERYTHING HE SAYS!

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  • Mary Etheldreda
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    Originally posted by Patriot of the U.S.A View Post
    I know I said that would be my last post, but I had to point something out.

    (quote) "We don't just come out with stuff in an earnest way that will bamboozle or overpower the people we talk to so we feel clever."

    Sorry to break the news to you, but that's EXACTLY what you do to people who aren't great debaters.
    Son, I'm not a debater of any kind and I'm here. Besides, this isn't a debate forum. The True Christians™ here are simply pointing out what the Holy Bible says. Not what you think it says, not what you think it means to say, not what you think it ought to say. It is God's Holy, Infallible, Perfect, Divine Word. It is constant and cannot change and cannot be improved on. Rather than debate, perhaps you'd like to ask questions. The very knowledgeable True Christians™ here can show you where in the Holy Scriptures the answer can be found.

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  • Levi Jones
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    Buddy, we aren't trying to harm you or make you leave. The opposite would be the case. We are hoping that you will read God's Holy Word from beginning to end and really take it to heart.

    It's not that long and if you have any questions about it, we'll be right here to answer them.

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  • Patriot of the U.S.A
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    Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View Post
    It's not about winning and losing. It's about calling out smug little gobshites like you who think you can just assert things and they are true despite there being documented evidence that you are talking out of your backside. God is not who we say He is because we want Him that way; He is the way He is because the only actual evidence for what He is like says that's what He is like.

    We KNOW God. We live and breathe who God ACTUALLY is. We don't make Him up. We don't just come out with stuff in an earnest way that will bamboozle or overpower the people we talk to so we feel clever. WE BACK IT UP WITH EVIDENCE. Praise Jesus and his conditional love.

    We're not your friends at school. We're not ill informed little people. We won't just back down because you sound certain.

    Come back when you have ACTUAL scriptural evidence that we are wrong!
    I know I said that would be my last post, but I had to point something out.

    (quote) "We don't just come out with stuff in an earnest way that will bamboozle or overpower the people we talk to so we feel clever."

    Sorry to break the news to you, but that's EXACTLY what you do to people who aren't great debaters.

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