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  • Wide-Open
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    Friend, we don't know who Ricky Gervais is, but we have passed your information to our Joo lawyers.

    He can expect a knock on his door soon!

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  • yak
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    I have been a christian all of my life and i disagreed with most of this "handy color chart."
    And i dont mean ANY disrespect, but who is going to inforce GENOCIDE as a punishment?!?!? if that were a reality whole civilizations would be destroyed, is that the perfect will of God?.....No, my understanding is that God wants us to have free will, and choose for ourselves what we believe.
    As for changing the order of the 10 commandments to what suits you, and then preaching that it should be so, unless I've missunderstood your point. sounds twisted.

    Note:
    This site was brought to my attention by comedy genius Ricky Gervais who openly ridiculed it in his latest audiobook discussing Law and Order. Ricky Gervais has always been open about his "faith" and makes it clear that he is an athiest, but this was easy pickings for him as he read aloud to thousands of people the content of this post and listed the 10 commandments, their alert level and punishments.

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  • Pastor Isaac Peters
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    Originally posted by Old Iron Crotch View Post
    Animals don't follow any gods, at least not that we can observe. Unless, of course, you're including the rabbits in "Watership Down," but they were acually metaphors for different aspects of human societies.
    What you can observe and what the Almighty can observe are just a little different, no? Besides, even if the animals themselves don't follow any gods, it's well known that animals can be vectors for demons.

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  • Old Iron Crotch
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    Originally posted by Prune Danish View Post
    . . . men, women, children and even the animals are to be killed for following other gods.
    Animals don't follow any gods, at least not that we can observe. Unless, of course, you're including the rabbits in "Watership Down," but they were acually metaphors for different aspects of human societies.

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  • Pastor Rune Enoe
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    Originally posted by PrayerIsFun View Post
    No disrespect of your position but you are not God. Where in the Bible does it say that the order of the commandments designates their severity of punishment and where in the bible does it say that God mistakenly ordered the commandments? Calling the order an anomaly is a bold statement, even by you. Too much pride?
    Question: "Where in the Bible does it say that the order of the commandments designates their severity of punishment"

    Nowhere does it say so in so many words. If there was such a verse in the King James Holy Bible (1611) I would of course have posted my little sermon in the "Favorite Bible Verses"-forum instead. Am I right?

    However, God's plan should be clear to see for all. Consider the draconian punishment for breaking the First Commandment:

    Deuteronomy 13:12 If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying,
    Deuteronomy 13:13 Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known;
    Deuteronomy 13:14 Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you;
    Deuteronomy 13:15 Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.

    . . . men, women, children and even the animals are to be killed for following other gods. Praise the Lord. Compare this with the Tenth Commandment: Thou shalt not covet - for which the Bible does not specify any particular punishment.

    Of course this is not completely true, since Our Lord Jesus has added that coveting the wife of a fellow True Christian™ falls under the 7th Commandment, all of which goes to reiterate what I said, i.e. that the 7th Commandment is an obvious anomaly:

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  • Brother MoJo
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    Friend, Brother Prune hardly means that as an insult to God. He is simply pointing it out so that we may contemplate why it is so. Clearly, God has some reason he wants us to see in the 7th Commandment being out of place.

    As to the severity, all of the punishments are from scripture so they are completely Biblically founded and thus what God says on the issue.

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  • PrayerIsFun
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    Originally posted by Prune Danish View Post
    Let me set the record straight: The commandments do not come in a random sequence. With the exception of the 7th Commandment -- an obvious anomaly -- the Commandments appear in order of severity. The harsher the punishment, the closer to the top.
    No disrespect of your position but you are not God. Where in the Bible does it say that the order of the commandments designates their severity of punishment and where in the bible does it say that God mistakenly ordered the commandments? Calling the order an anomaly is a bold statement, even by you. Too much pride?

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  • Ezekiel Bathfire
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    Why thank you Pastor Prune, you have satisfied a long felt want. Now, seeing the Commandment and their punishments, do you notice what is missing? Imprisonment!

    The only mention of imprisonment in the Old Testament is when Ataxerxes issues a Godly decree that all shall obey Ezra.

    Ezr:7:21: And I, even I Artaxerxes the king, do make a decree to all the treasurers which are beyond the river, that whatsoever Ezra the priest, the scribe of the law of the God of heaven, shall require of you, it be done speedily,
    Ezr:7:26: And whosoever will not do the law of thy God, and the law of the king, let judgment be executed speedily upon him, whether it be unto death, or to banishment, or to confiscation of goods, or to imprisonment.
    But this is a one-off job, suited to the circumstances.

    In the New Testament, we see that Saul speaks of imprisonment, but clearly this is Ungodly:
    Ac:22:19: And I said, Lord, they know that I imprisoned and beat in every synagogue them that believed on thee:
    Ac:22:20: And when the blood of thy martyr Stephen was shed, I also was standing by, and consenting unto his death, and kept the raiment of them that slew him.
    And
    Heb:11:36: And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment:
    Note - all imprisonment was done by heathens. It is therefore clear that prisons are not a Godly thing.

    You can see that the cost of imprisonment in the USA in 2001 was $46Billion, by 2006, it was $60Billion. There are tax-dollars to be saved here, and these savings mean less tax for us all, at least $200 for every man woman and child! Thus a family of 8 would get $1,600 each and every year!

    I hear lieberals saying prison doesn’t work – prison is inhuman – prisons are universities of crime! Well, I suggest we take them at their word. The Godly punishments are the just ones.

    So we are looking at the death penalty for adultery upwards (plus abominations, wayward sons, and witches, etc.) fines or death for thieves and despising and scorn for the rest.

    Now despising and scorn doesn’t seem too bad, but I would say that this means not being able to take part in business of any sort, having no access to public services, welfare or health treatment, and no home; quite effective and entirely cost-free.

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  • Nobar King
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    Thank you for posting that comprehensive chart, Pastor. One needs all the reminders one can get of God's holy law.

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  • Talitha
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    I've just printed that off as a handy reference to keep in my Purse.

    Who needs Secular Laws when it's all so simple?

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  • Pastor Billy-Reuben
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    Originally posted by Prune Danish View Post
    Let me set the record straight: The commandments do not come in a random sequence. With the exception of the 7th Commandment -- an obvious anomaly -- the Commandments appear in order of severity. The harsher the punishment, the closer to the top.
    Thanks for that, Brother. I knew that God listed the commandments in that order for a reason, but I never put the two and two together to figure out what that reason was.

    Pastor Billy-Reuben

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  • The Ten Commandments and their Punishments

    Brethren and Sistren

    It has come to my attention that not only are many of our members unable to correctly recite all of The Ten Commandments, but those who can remember even a few, invariably get the sequence wrong.

    Let me set the record straight: The commandments do not come in a random sequence. With the exception of the 7th Commandment -- an obvious anomaly -- the Commandments appear in order of severity. The harsher the punishment, the closer to the top.

    I hope this handy color chart will make the intrinsic beauty of God's word more comprehensible to all:

    CommandmentAlert LevelPunishment
    1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.SevereGenocide. Entire cities with men, women, children and animals must be killed. (Deuteronomy 2:33-34, Numbers 21:34-35, 1 Samuel 15:2-3, Joshua 6:21. Joshua 10:40) In some cases you can keep the girls alive for raping. (Numbers 31:15-18)
    2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven imageSevereGenocide. Entire cities with men, women, children and animals must be killed. (See above.)
    3. Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain;HighCapital punishment (Leviticus 24:16, Deuteronomy 18:20, Mark 3:28-29)
    4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.HighCapital punishment (Exodus 31:14, Exodus 31:15, Exodus 35:2 Numbers 15:32)
    5. Honour thy father and thy mother:HighCapital punishment (Exodus 21:15, Exodus 21:17, Leviticus 20:9)
    7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.HighCapital punishment (Leviticus 20:10)
    6. Thou shalt not kill.ElevatedCapital punishment in some cases (For killing Cain, yes, for killing Abel, no: Genesis 4:15).
    8. Thou shalt not steal.GuardedExcessive fines or slavery: (Exodus 22:1-3). Only in rare cases such as stealing slaves, capital punishment (Exodus 21:16). Thieves caught in the night are to be executed (Exodus 22:1-3)
    9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.LowDespisement and scorn (Proverbs 12:8)
    10. Thou shalt not covet . . .LowDespisement and scorn (Romans 7:7-8)
    Last edited by Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson; 07-13-2011, 05:59 AM. Reason: Added scripture cleaned up logos linking problem.
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