[Levi Jones]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

God isn't jealous. First of all, One of God's names is Jealous.

Exodus 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:

Exodus 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

[Cranky Old Man]

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Could you advise, what doesn't the Bible say on this issue -- or what it does?

The Bible has the following to say on this issue: John 6:12 "When they were filled, he said unto his disciples, Gather up the fragments that remain, that nothing be lost." So God clearly wants our wives to keep our houses clean!

[handmaiden]

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Pastor Peters, I do not wish to fawn , but I rather like how you have styled yourself "Biblically Correct". For years I had described myself as "ecologically correct" or "EC" as I put it. Now reading this clear and instructive thread, I would like to ask, is it true that the Bible does NOT tell us to recycle? Of course, I include many other activities besides that.

Permit me to elaborate. Many liberals and liberal "Christians" will cite Bible chapter and verse from Genesis stating that we, the human race, have been given dominion over the earth. This is certainly better than any Native American idea that we are "brothers" with animals an elements of nature such as wind, rain, etc.

Now, some take the position that since we are stewards of the earth we should take care of it and recycle, etc. On the surface that doesn't sound evil at all. But if we know that the purpose of this earth is finite and that God expects us to make the most use of it while we have it, and yet to not count of its provisions forever, but rather His own, why should be recycle, etc?

Oh, sure a little local recycling here and there doesn't seem too troublesome, the real problem is the motivation behind the choice of one's actions and the long term agenda. That's where people start debating, and many use the Bible for speaking points in this debate.

Could you advise, what doesn't the Bible say on this issue -- or what it does? Either way; I'm ready to learn.

Inquistively Yours,

Handmaiden

[WWJDnow]

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Verbs have imperfect and perfect tenses for a reason.

Yes, and there is nothing imperfect about the KJV1611 Bible.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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The Lord giveth, and the Lord taketh away.

Almost, but not quite. Here's what Job said in a specific situation:

Job 1:21: And said, Naked came I out of my mother's womb, and naked shall I return thither: the LORD gave, and the LORD hath taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD.

Verbs have imperfect and perfect tenses for a reason.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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Money is the root of all evil.

That blatant misquotation of Scripture shows how brazen those liberal false Christians can be in rewriting God's Word to suit themselves. The passage actually says:

1 Tim. 6:10-11: For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.

In fact, in the same chapter, we read the following, which would make no sense if money were the root of all evil:

1 Tim. 6:17-19: Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy; That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate; up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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Christians aren't perfect, just forgiven.

Actually, True Christians™ are both, whereas false Christians are neither.

Deut. 18:13: Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God.

Matt. 5:48: Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

(You surely don't think that the Almighty is "not perfect, just forgiven.")

1 John 3:6: Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

(That is, false Christians who sin have not seen or known God.)

1 John 5:18: We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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Being a good person (whatever that means) is enough for salvation.

That's not what Jesus said:

John 3:18: He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

If you don't believe, you're condemned, regardless of how good a person you are.

Also, if you could get to Heaven just by being a good person, God's temporary sacrifice of Himself to Himself would have been in vain:

Gal. 2:21: I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness [come] by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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We are all God's children.

If that were true, why would Jesus give the saved (and only the saved) the power to become God's children?

John 1:12-13: But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Others are the devil's children:

John 8:44: Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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Miscegenation is okay because "there is neither Jew nor Greek."

I'm a little surprised that feel-good liberal "Christians" think they can get away with that, since it's such a blatant form of cherry-picking. Let's read the verse in its entirety, highlighting a part that they love to leave out:

Gal. 3:28: There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Thus, insofar as that verse were to authorize miscegenation, it would also authorize "marriage" between two sodomites or two sodomitesses , but when I point that out, they pretend not to have heard me.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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The seven deadly sins

The Bible does not specify seven deadly sins. The current list is the invention of His Unholiness Pope Gregory I in A.D. 590. According to the following Bible verse, all sins are deadly:

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

[Pastor Rune Enoe]

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Just have faith and you'll get to heaven-works don't matter one bit!

James 2:24 "See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone."

There's no contradiction here. It's clear from the context that faith is understood to be a work. A True Christian's(tm) work is done by his faith.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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Thus says the LORD:

"Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord God: and not that he should return from his way and live? For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord God: wherefore, turn yourselves, and live ye."--Ezek. 18:23, 32.

"Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways, for why will ye die, O house of Israel?"--Ezek. 33:11.

You say I'm taking the verses out of context? In that case, I'd like to know what you say the correct context is!

Major Tom, you've been warned repeatedly against twisting Scripture to make it appear internally contradictory, something that God's Word quite simply cannot be.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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Of course, inspired by God The Son, we have, "Ro:1:28: And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;"

It hardly smacks of loving them and did not Christ Himself utter the words,

"Lu:19:27: But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. Lu:19:28: And when he had thus spoken, he went before, ascending up to Jerusalem.


We are not talking lieberal minded fluffy-bunnies are we priest?


PS The lay-off hasn't done you any good.

[Father Thomas Martin]

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Love the sinner, but hate the sin.

Actually, this is from that Christ-mocking hindaloo, Mahatmacoat Gandhi. God's Word says that we are to hate the sinner as well:

Psalm 139:21-22: Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.

Thus says the LORD:

"Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord God: and not that he should return from his way and live? For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord God: wherefore, turn yourselves, and live ye."--Ezek. 18:23, 32.

"Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways, for why will ye die, O house of Israel?"--Ezek. 33:11.

You say I'm taking the verses out of context? In that case, I'd like to know what you say the correct context is!