[BelieverInGod]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

Look kiddo, you have no idea what you're talking about. You can barely get words out, and they're not exactly easy to follow. But we're the idiots because we can't read what you "really wanted to say" out of the garbage you post on our thread.

Genesis 11:17 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.

Proverbs 29:20 Seest thou a man that is hasty in his words? there is more hope of a fool than of him.

[stv2kplus4]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

Look kiddo, you have no idea what you're talking about. You can barely get words out, and they're not exactly easy to follow. But we're the idiots because we can't read what you "really wanted to say" out of the garbage you post on our thread.

Genesis 11:17 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.

Proverbs 29:20 Seest thou a man that is hasty in his words? there is more hope of a fool than of him.

r u speaking to me? i never called anyone an idiot. thnx for your concerm.
Merry Christmas

[stv2kplus4]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

Now, as for things that were changed in the New Testament:

Many FALSE Christians assume that Jesus invalidated The Old Testament so that three-quarters of The Bible can only be used for toilet paper. Not so at Landover.

The FALSE Christian way is to distinguish between ceremonial laws vs. moral law. Ceremonial laws were invalidated by Jesus and moral laws are eternal. The TRUE Christian™ approach is much - well - truer. We follow the entire Bible with very few exceptions:

• We're not required to make sacrifices because Jesus has given one sacrifice once for all (Hebr. chap. 9+10)
• We don't follow the food laws (Mark 7:15-19, Acts 10:12-16, Rom. 14:1-3) although some members still regard lobster with suspicion
• We don't observe OT (=Jewish) holidays (Gal. 4:9-11)
• The day of rest is Sunday (Acts 20:7, 1st Cor. 16:2)

The rest of The Old Testament was written by an eternal God who does not change and never repents.

Matt. 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

If there are any others, please let me know.

plus he added to the commandments, or 'raised the bar', in cases such as adultry. This too, is part of the new. so we must observe his teachings as they also ADD to those of the OT. So we cant just look at King David, and then say the OT makes re-marriage OK(save for fornication) . Jesus changed alot. So we need to have love for our enemies, do good to those who mistreat us, and so on. It goes in both directions

"Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, [even] unto the end of the world. Amen."

your brother in Christ

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

plus he added to the commandments, or 'raised the bar', in cases such as adultry. This too, is part of the new. so we must observe his teachings as they also ADD to those of the OT. So we cant just look at King David, and then say the OT makes re-marriage OK(save for fornication) . Jesus changed alot. So we need to have love for our enemies, do good to those who mistreat us, and so on. It goes in both directions

"Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, [even] unto the end of the world. Amen."

your brother in Christ

Of course we need to love our brothers. (And hint: that's in the Old Testament, too).

Does that mean to lie to him and tell him what he wants to hear? No. It means to tell him the truth, and warn him to flee from the wrath to come.

As we are commanded in Leviticus 19:17, "Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him." Here, loving your neighbour is defined as rebuking him, and not allowing sin to come upon him. Further, we have never suggested that we don't love our neighbor. We're not saying "We hate sinners" - we're saying "God hates sinners." The purest, most exalted form of love is to tell people the truth, especially about weighty matters such as life and death, sin, righteousness, judgment to come, Heaven and Hell.

But remember, David said: "Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee? Am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred; I count them mine enemies." Psalm 139:21, 22. David hated God's enemies with a perfect, spiritual hatred (as opposed to the fickle human emotion of hatred), just as all of God's elect do.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

I am curious, i see a lot a claims of people being 'true Christians', If I read 1 John 4, i can get an idea of some of the indicaters

That's your first mistake. If you're just reading 1 John 4, of course you're going to get stuff wrong. You need to read the whole Bible.

it doesnt say uts a duty to rebuke ALL, but those who sin against YOU.

Whatever happened to loving thy neighbour? Whatever happened to caring about God?

But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Yes, but we are angry with good cause, so that's fine.
And clearly that rule about not calling people fools is only a guide to action in certain situations, otherwise Jesus would be damned to Hell:
Matthew 23:17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?

you dont understand something, he taught not to be called Rabbi, but his disciples called him Rabbi, whats good for him, is good for him, thats fine, and what he commands his disciples is what he commands his disciples, its not for us to decide.

Did you notice any of us calling anyone Rabbi?

or being being in the company of the 'unrighteuous' is that a law?

Let's see:
Matthew 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

1 Corinthians 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

1 Corinthians 10:20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.

2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

2 Thessalonians 3:6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.
It looks like it is a law, but maybe not in the way you were thinking of.

do you not know we are all sinners?

I know we have all sinned. Past tense.

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

I also know that:
1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

1 John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

[nkdpagan]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

No. Your job is to follow the commandments, shut up, and never question the Lord.

Wish me luck with that.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

Wish me luck with that.

Luck is not required . . . which is good, because True Christians(tm) do not believe in such ridiculous superstitions.

A commitment to serving the Lord, as you were made by Him to do, and a recognition that He loves you so much that He will burn you alive for all eternity in His Lake of Fire if you fail to worship Him exactly as directed, should be more than adequate.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

People who have never received the saving message can still be saved in some other way.

Our Lord clearly said that belief in His name is a necessary condition for salvation:

John 3:18: He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

The Bible also says that those who have never heard of Him have no way of believing in Him:

Romans 10:14: How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

Romans 10:17: So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Yet happy-clappy liberal "Christians," who take offense at the Bible as actually written, dream up exceptions that are nowhere expressed in Scripture, such as the notion that those who have never heard of Jesus can still get into Heaven on the basis of "what light they have" or some such nonsense. That notion, besides contradicting the verses from Romans quoted above, raises what is called the "Then why did you tell me?" problem. That is, by fulfilling the Great Commission, we would be doing the gravest disservice imaginable by giving people, not a way to get to Heaven, but a way to get to hell.

Why, then, would a loving God let people live in a place where they have no way of hearing about Jesus? If they genuinely have no way of hearing about Jesus, then they must not have been predestinated to go to Heaven:

Romans 9:22-24: [What] if God, willing to shew [his] wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

[thewordofgod]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

People who have never received the saving message can still be saved in some other way.

Our Lord clearly said that belief in His name is a necessary condition for salvation:

John 3:18: He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

The Bible also says that those who have never heard of Him have no way of believing in Him:

Romans 10:14: How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

Romans 10:17: So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Yet happy-clappy liberal "Christians," who take offense at the Bible as actually written, dream up exceptions that are nowhere expressed in Scripture, such as the notion that those who have never heard of Jesus can still get into Heaven on the basis of "what light they have" or some such nonsense. That notion, besides contradicting the verses from Romans quoted above, raises what is called the "Then why did you tell me?" problem. That is, by fulfilling the Great Commission, we would be doing the gravest disservice imaginable by giving people, not a way to get to Heaven, but a way to get to hell.

Why, then, would a loving God let people live in a place where they have no way of hearing about Jesus? If they genuinely have no way of hearing about Jesus, then they must not have been predestinated to go to Heaven:

Romans 9:22-24: [What] if God, willing to shew [his] wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

God will burn this online site with everything else on earth in a short while from now. You aren't his chosen few to speak for him as none of the Christians were. The Roman government killed most of the saints after they killed Jesus. The new testament was rewritten by the Romans using the writings of some saints. They added their pagan ideas to them after removing any evidence of the true gospel so that the followers of the saints couldn't become new saints.

The Romans couldn't afford the time or money to hunt more of these saints who preached the true gospel. Once they killed all the saints, they had their leader, Constantine, to find a way to deceive these followers of the saints. This is when he started the Roman Catholic church and this new testament that was falsified to deceive the followers kept every single Christian from understanding what's going on.

I've preached in more than 50 forums this past nine months and this is the absolute worst place I've ever been in. I wrote a thread to show a very offensive slogan written in the Inroduction forum about newbies being trash. I have several of your members all over me for speaking against this invitation. They began judging me as if I was a criminal and I calmly used scriptures to show why I made this thread. That made it worse and here's some 12 year old moderator's infraction she gave to me that has to be the most rude thing I've ever read in my life.

The Landover Baptist Church

thewordofgod, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
Your user account may not have shown sufficient love for your Savior to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, lax in your tithing to Landover Baptist, access administrative features, spitting on Jesus as He hangs on the cross, or some other privileged system? If you are trying to post, Christ Himself may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

You better start making changes in this den of thieves or every single one of you will be burned up in the fire without ever knowing the spirit of God. Satan is in control of this forum because Satan is the symbolic name for the flesh of man. The tribulation is the flesh against the Word of God and if you read Genesis 3:15, you can see the curse on the serpent, which is another name for the flesh of man.

The good news is that all God's people are saved from their flesh as they perish, not just sinners who call themselves Baptist Christians. God is much bigger than you'll ever be.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

They began judging me as if I was a criminal and I calmly used scriptures to show why I made this thread.

The same scriptures that you say Constantine falsified?

[TheLordSavedMe]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

God will burn this online site with everything else on earth in a short while from now. You aren't his chosen few to speak for him as none of the Christians were. The Roman government killed most of the saints after they killed Jesus. The new testament was rewritten by the Romans using the writings of some saints. They added their pagan ideas to them after removing any evidence of the true gospel so that the followers of the saints couldn't become new saints.

The Romans couldn't afford the time or money to hunt more of these saints who preached the true gospel. Once they killed all the saints, they had their leader, Constantine, to find a way to deceive these followers of the saints. This is when he started the Roman Catholic church and this new testament that was falsified to deceive the followers kept every single Christian from understanding what's going on.

I've preached in more than 50 forums this past nine months and this is the absolute worst place I've ever been in. I wrote a thread to show a very offensive slogan written in the Inroduction forum about newbies being trash. I have several of your members all over me for speaking against this invitation. They began judging me as if I was a criminal and I calmly used scriptures to show why I made this thread. That made it worse and here's some 12 year old moderator's infraction she gave to me that has to be the most rude thing I've ever read in my life.

The Landover Baptist Church

thewordofgod, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
Your user account may not have shown sufficient love for your Savior to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, lax in your tithing to Landover Baptist, access administrative features, spitting on Jesus as He hangs on the cross, or some other privileged system? If you are trying to post, Christ Himself may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

You better start making changes in this den of thieves or every single one of you will be burned up in the fire without ever knowing the spirit of God. Satan is in control of this forum because Satan is the symbolic name for the flesh of man. The tribulation is the flesh against the Word of God and if you read Genesis 3:15, you can see the curse on the serpent, which is another name for the flesh of man.

The good news is that all God's people are saved from their flesh as they perish, not just sinners who call themselves Baptist Christians. God is much bigger than you'll ever be.

Hi wordofGod (you should capitalize the G in God! )

Um, you sound like you're kind of mad, how come?

The Pastors and the other True Christians™ like me are saved and we are all going to HEAVEN to be with JESUS when we die!

You should really just calm down and get saved, it's rrreeaallly easy actually!

I don't know what all that stuff you wrote means, but I'm pretty sure it's against the Bible, so it's probably wrong. Sorry if that sounds mean of me, but I believe in the Bible and what the Pastors here tell me.

Anyways, you should just not be so angry and let JESUS into your heart and soul.

Tammi

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

If you call yourself a Christian, you're a Christian.

I keep hearing this, but the more I hear it, the less sense it makes. If I call myself the Emperor of Japan, am I the Emperor of Japan? God has explained to us how He spots people who only play-act at being Christians:

Matt. 7:21-23: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Titus 1:16: They profess that they know God; but in works they deny [him], being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

He has also told us how we may do so as well:

Matt. 7:15-20: Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

If you call yourself a Christian, but you don't do the will of the Father, then, far from actually being a Christian, you are abominable and hellbound.

[Bible Student]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

If you call yourself a Christian, you're a Christian.

I keep hearing this, but the more I hear it, the less sense it makes. If I call myself the Emperor of Japan, am I the Emperor of Japan? God has explained to us how He spots people who only play-act at being Christians:

Matt. 7:21-23: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Titus 1:16: They profess that they know God; but in works they deny [him], being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

He has also told us how we may do so as well:

Matt. 7:15-20: Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

If you call yourself a Christian, but you don't do the will of the Father, then, far from actually being a Christian, you are abominable and hellbound.

Every time I read a quote like that I remember this picture and wonder if the wolf really thinks he is fooling anyone.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

Jesus accepted everyone.

Let's see.

Matthew 13:10-15: And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: For this people's heart is waxed gross, and [their] ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with [their] eyes, and hear with [their] ears, and should understand with [their] heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

That doesn't sound very accepting of everyone to me.

Matt. 21:12-13: And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.

Neither does that.

[SheepForChrist]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

"Jesus never preached about homosexuality."

False Christians love to make this claim, in spite of the following verse:

"And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen." - John 21:25 (KJV)

How can anyone claim to know the things Jesus didn't preach about? He did/said so many things it would take more books than could fit in the earth to record...

The premise is actually false to begin with, because Jesus made the following statement:

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." - Matthew 7:21 (KJV)

Jesus states only those who do God's will will enter Heaven, and we know that God forbids homosexuality in many other parts of the Bible, so the case is closed.