[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

They began judging me as if I was a criminal and I calmly used scriptures to show why I made this thread.

The same scriptures that you say Constantine falsified?

[thewordofgod]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

People who have never received the saving message can still be saved in some other way.

Our Lord clearly said that belief in His name is a necessary condition for salvation:

John 3:18: He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

The Bible also says that those who have never heard of Him have no way of believing in Him:

Romans 10:14: How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

Romans 10:17: So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Yet happy-clappy liberal "Christians," who take offense at the Bible as actually written, dream up exceptions that are nowhere expressed in Scripture, such as the notion that those who have never heard of Jesus can still get into Heaven on the basis of "what light they have" or some such nonsense. That notion, besides contradicting the verses from Romans quoted above, raises what is called the "Then why did you tell me?" problem. That is, by fulfilling the Great Commission, we would be doing the gravest disservice imaginable by giving people, not a way to get to Heaven, but a way to get to hell.

Why, then, would a loving God let people live in a place where they have no way of hearing about Jesus? If they genuinely have no way of hearing about Jesus, then they must not have been predestinated to go to Heaven:

Romans 9:22-24: [What] if God, willing to shew [his] wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

God will burn this online site with everything else on earth in a short while from now. You aren't his chosen few to speak for him as none of the Christians were. The Roman government killed most of the saints after they killed Jesus. The new testament was rewritten by the Romans using the writings of some saints. They added their pagan ideas to them after removing any evidence of the true gospel so that the followers of the saints couldn't become new saints.

The Romans couldn't afford the time or money to hunt more of these saints who preached the true gospel. Once they killed all the saints, they had their leader, Constantine, to find a way to deceive these followers of the saints. This is when he started the Roman Catholic church and this new testament that was falsified to deceive the followers kept every single Christian from understanding what's going on.

I've preached in more than 50 forums this past nine months and this is the absolute worst place I've ever been in. I wrote a thread to show a very offensive slogan written in the Inroduction forum about newbies being trash. I have several of your members all over me for speaking against this invitation. They began judging me as if I was a criminal and I calmly used scriptures to show why I made this thread. That made it worse and here's some 12 year old moderator's infraction she gave to me that has to be the most rude thing I've ever read in my life.

The Landover Baptist Church

thewordofgod, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
Your user account may not have shown sufficient love for your Savior to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, lax in your tithing to Landover Baptist, access administrative features, spitting on Jesus as He hangs on the cross, or some other privileged system? If you are trying to post, Christ Himself may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

You better start making changes in this den of thieves or every single one of you will be burned up in the fire without ever knowing the spirit of God. Satan is in control of this forum because Satan is the symbolic name for the flesh of man. The tribulation is the flesh against the Word of God and if you read Genesis 3:15, you can see the curse on the serpent, which is another name for the flesh of man.

The good news is that all God's people are saved from their flesh as they perish, not just sinners who call themselves Baptist Christians. God is much bigger than you'll ever be.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

People who have never received the saving message can still be saved in some other way.

Our Lord clearly said that belief in His name is a necessary condition for salvation:

John 3:18: He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

The Bible also says that those who have never heard of Him have no way of believing in Him:

Romans 10:14: How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

Romans 10:17: So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Yet happy-clappy liberal "Christians," who take offense at the Bible as actually written, dream up exceptions that are nowhere expressed in Scripture, such as the notion that those who have never heard of Jesus can still get into Heaven on the basis of "what light they have" or some such nonsense. That notion, besides contradicting the verses from Romans quoted above, raises what is called the "Then why did you tell me?" problem. That is, by fulfilling the Great Commission, we would be doing the gravest disservice imaginable by giving people, not a way to get to Heaven, but a way to get to hell.

Why, then, would a loving God let people live in a place where they have no way of hearing about Jesus? If they genuinely have no way of hearing about Jesus, then they must not have been predestinated to go to Heaven:

Romans 9:22-24: [What] if God, willing to shew [his] wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

Wish me luck with that.

Luck is not required . . . which is good, because True Christians(tm) do not believe in such ridiculous superstitions.

A commitment to serving the Lord, as you were made by Him to do, and a recognition that He loves you so much that He will burn you alive for all eternity in His Lake of Fire if you fail to worship Him exactly as directed, should be more than adequate.

[nkdpagan]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

No. Your job is to follow the commandments, shut up, and never question the Lord.

Wish me luck with that.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

I am curious, i see a lot a claims of people being 'true Christians', If I read 1 John 4, i can get an idea of some of the indicaters

That's your first mistake. If you're just reading 1 John 4, of course you're going to get stuff wrong. You need to read the whole Bible.

it doesnt say uts a duty to rebuke ALL, but those who sin against YOU.

Whatever happened to loving thy neighbour? Whatever happened to caring about God?

But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Yes, but we are angry with good cause, so that's fine.
And clearly that rule about not calling people fools is only a guide to action in certain situations, otherwise Jesus would be damned to Hell:
Matthew 23:17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?

you dont understand something, he taught not to be called Rabbi, but his disciples called him Rabbi, whats good for him, is good for him, thats fine, and what he commands his disciples is what he commands his disciples, its not for us to decide.

Did you notice any of us calling anyone Rabbi?

or being being in the company of the 'unrighteuous' is that a law?

Let's see:
Matthew 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

1 Corinthians 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

1 Corinthians 10:20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.

2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

2 Thessalonians 3:6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.
It looks like it is a law, but maybe not in the way you were thinking of.

do you not know we are all sinners?

I know we have all sinned. Past tense.

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

I also know that:
1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

1 John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

plus he added to the commandments, or 'raised the bar', in cases such as adultry. This too, is part of the new. so we must observe his teachings as they also ADD to those of the OT. So we cant just look at King David, and then say the OT makes re-marriage OK(save for fornication) . Jesus changed alot. So we need to have love for our enemies, do good to those who mistreat us, and so on. It goes in both directions

"Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, [even] unto the end of the world. Amen."

your brother in Christ

Of course we need to love our brothers. (And hint: that's in the Old Testament, too).

Does that mean to lie to him and tell him what he wants to hear? No. It means to tell him the truth, and warn him to flee from the wrath to come.

As we are commanded in Leviticus 19:17, "Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him." Here, loving your neighbour is defined as rebuking him, and not allowing sin to come upon him. Further, we have never suggested that we don't love our neighbor. We're not saying "We hate sinners" - we're saying "God hates sinners." The purest, most exalted form of love is to tell people the truth, especially about weighty matters such as life and death, sin, righteousness, judgment to come, Heaven and Hell.

But remember, David said: "Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee? Am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred; I count them mine enemies." Psalm 139:21, 22. David hated God's enemies with a perfect, spiritual hatred (as opposed to the fickle human emotion of hatred), just as all of God's elect do.

[stv2kplus4]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

Now, as for things that were changed in the New Testament:

Many FALSE Christians assume that Jesus invalidated The Old Testament so that three-quarters of The Bible can only be used for toilet paper. Not so at Landover.

The FALSE Christian way is to distinguish between ceremonial laws vs. moral law. Ceremonial laws were invalidated by Jesus and moral laws are eternal. The TRUE Christian™ approach is much - well - truer. We follow the entire Bible with very few exceptions:

• We're not required to make sacrifices because Jesus has given one sacrifice once for all (Hebr. chap. 9+10)
• We don't follow the food laws (Mark 7:15-19, Acts 10:12-16, Rom. 14:1-3) although some members still regard lobster with suspicion
• We don't observe OT (=Jewish) holidays (Gal. 4:9-11)
• The day of rest is Sunday (Acts 20:7, 1st Cor. 16:2)

The rest of The Old Testament was written by an eternal God who does not change and never repents.

Matt. 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

If there are any others, please let me know.

plus he added to the commandments, or 'raised the bar', in cases such as adultry. This too, is part of the new. so we must observe his teachings as they also ADD to those of the OT. So we cant just look at King David, and then say the OT makes re-marriage OK(save for fornication) . Jesus changed alot. So we need to have love for our enemies, do good to those who mistreat us, and so on. It goes in both directions

"Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, [even] unto the end of the world. Amen."

your brother in Christ

[stv2kplus4]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

Look kiddo, you have no idea what you're talking about. You can barely get words out, and they're not exactly easy to follow. But we're the idiots because we can't read what you "really wanted to say" out of the garbage you post on our thread.

Genesis 11:17 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.

Proverbs 29:20 Seest thou a man that is hasty in his words? there is more hope of a fool than of him.

r u speaking to me? i never called anyone an idiot. thnx for your concerm.
Merry Christmas

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

Look kiddo, you have no idea what you're talking about. You can barely get words out, and they're not exactly easy to follow. But we're the idiots because we can't read what you "really wanted to say" out of the garbage you post on our thread.

Genesis 11:17 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.

Proverbs 29:20 Seest thou a man that is hasty in his words? there is more hope of a fool than of him.

[stv2kplus4]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

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thats my point too, its not me saying it, its my saying, it comes from Jesus.....calm down, if you blindly look to discredit me, no matter what i say you will twist it to find fault, but it is understandable on a message system so much is lost without eye contact, tones of voice, etc.

merry Christmas

i need to correct a mistake i made when typing....
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thats my point too, its not me saying it, its my saying, it comes from Jesus.....calm down
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this should read..

.thats my point too, its not me saying it, its not my saying, it comes from Jesus.....calm down

thnx

[stv2kplus4]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

It cannot be your original opinion if it is Jesus'. All you are doing is pretending that you thought of it too - which makes you look mighty foolish.

And you were the one who started railing against 'cherry picking'

M't:7:5: Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

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thats my point too, its not me saying it, its my saying, it comes from Jesus.....calm down, if you blindly look to discredit me, no matter what i say you will twist it to find fault, but it is understandable on a message system so much is lost without eye contact, tones of voice, etc.

merry Christmas

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

It cannot be your original opinion if it is Jesus'. All you are doing is pretending that you thought of it too - which makes you look mighty foolish.

And you were the one who started railing against 'cherry picking'

M't:7:5: Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

[stv2kplus4]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

Go chew your blubber. You are not my brother.

Is this a typical reaction when you cant back up what you say? this is strange, the liberalist call me a conservative baptist, the conservative bapstists call me a lliberalist, is this a narrow path?

[stv2kplus4]

Re: Things that the Bible doesn't say

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12But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick. 13But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.



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For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
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there are teachings on how we will be responsible for every [idle] word we speak....(loose remembering)

your brother in Christ