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  • ZJBOWERS
    Confirmed Enemy of God
    BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
    • Aug 2009
    • 11

    #1

    Simple Question....

    I have found several verses in the bible that i would like to share with yall. I assure you that these verses are legitimate and are God's teachings.

    In Galatians 5:20 hatred is described as being a part of sinful nature and further on in the scripture in verse 23 it is proclaimed that "those who live like this will not inherit the Kingdom of God."

    Galatians 5:22-23 "But the fruit of the Spirit is LOVE, JOY, PATIENCE, KINDNESS, GOODNESS, FAITHFULNESS, and SELF CONTROL.

    In Galatians 5:14 we are told "the entire law is summed up in a single command: "love your neighbor as yourself.""

    I was just curious as to why you all believe in such a hateful God when we are told to love and NOT to hate so close together in one chapter of one book. It is stated here that to hate is to be part of "sinful nature." Our God is pure and without sin. For God to hate would make him sinful and therefore NOT God. I would like to be so bold as to say that God does not hate anyone nor anything but loves all. For him to preach a message of love for all to see and then express hate and unruley (spelling???) judgement i think would be both contridictory and hypocratic.

    If you have any scripture that uses hate in the literal sense of the word as to say "I hate broccoli" please post the example on this thread. However in most cases in the Bible hate is used to show a certain physical moral and personal dettachment from an object such as in Luke 14:26 where Jesus says, "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." Jesus does not speak to them and tell them to literally hate and despise there mother, father, sister, etc. He instead declares them to detach (spelling again????) from them as to put their full focus and His word and spreading it.

    Just a thought...

    Sincerely,

    Zack Bowers
  • ZJBOWERS
    Confirmed Enemy of God
    BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
    • Aug 2009
    • 11

    #2
    Re: Simple Question....

    I believe i may have posted this incorrectly. If someone could help better direct me as to where i should have posted this i would very much appreciate it. I'm sorry for the inconvenience.

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    • Professor Bessemer
      Professor of Creation Science at Landover University
      Certified Ex-Gay Program Graduate
      Darwin's Worst Nightmare
      True Christian™
      • May 2009
      • 2952

      #3
      Re: Simple Question....

      Galatians 5: 22-23 read thusly in the One True Bible:

      But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,


      Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.



      Please do not post any quotes from false Bibles on our Godly forum. And The Introduction Forum is where you start posting. With a nice, complete introduction of who you are, what church you attend, etcetera.


      Then you can start questioning our beliefs.
      Professor of Creation Science and Flood Geology at Landover Baptist University


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      Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls. James 1:21

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      • ZJBOWERS
        Confirmed Enemy of God
        BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
        • Aug 2009
        • 11

        #4
        Re: Simple Question....

        I suppose the KJV would be the "correct" translation

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        • ZJBOWERS
          Confirmed Enemy of God
          BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
          • Aug 2009
          • 11

          #5
          Re: Simple Question....

          I would actually have to say that the true to form translation of The Bible was written in Hebrew (the Old Testament being written in that) and Greek (most of the New Testament being written in that). I believe that my translation is just as valid as your translation, which was written by King James 1 of Scotland in the early 1600's.

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          • ZJBOWERS
            Confirmed Enemy of God
            BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
            • Aug 2009
            • 11

            #6
            Re: Simple Question....

            Galatians 5:22-23 reads as such in the KJV version of the Bible: "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
            Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law."

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            • Oakland "Reb" Griner
              True Christian™
              True Christian™
              • Jun 2009
              • 2241

              #7
              Re: Simple Question....

              Tsk, tsk, tsk.


              And just like that, zippo, swallowed up by the gaping maw of the fiery pit of HELL !!
              Jud 1:15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are unGodly among them of all their unGodly deeds which they have unGodly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which unGodly sinners have spoken against him.

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              • Capt. Aaron Portway
                One of the Lord's Airborne Rangers
                Salvation from Above
                God's Favorite Pilot™
                True Christian™
                • Sep 2008
                • 6309

                #8
                Re: Simple Question....

                Originally posted by ZJBOWERS View Post
                Galatians 5:22-23 reads as such in the KJV version of the Bible: "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
                Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law."
                Yes, the Professor just posted that. Have you posted in the Introduction Forum yet friend?
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                • ZJBOWERS
                  Confirmed Enemy of God
                  BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 11

                  #9
                  Re: Simple Question....

                  Excuse me sir but do you have any reason to condemn me or authority to do such? I have done nothing but expressed my opinion on what our Holy Father is. He gave us our free will to do such. I have done nothing to so quickly sent to hell by some anonymous individual such as yourself.

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                  • Rev. Jim Osborne
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                    • Jun 2009
                    • 8622

                    #10
                    Re: Simple Question....

                    Zach,

                    We must look at Galatians chapter 5 in context. For Paul is addressing his fellow Christians, and not believers and non-believers at large. Thus when he says "love thy neighbor" he is referring to our fellow Christians. The Galatians for whom this letter was addressed were Christians.

                    Also, you seem to have a misguided sense of who God is. Have you read all of the Bible and not just the feely-good stuff? God does indeed hate people. He hates the sin and the sinner!

                    Psalm 5:5-6 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
                    Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.

                    Psalm 11:5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence His soul hateth.

                    As you can see, these Scriptural verses clearly says that God hates certain people themselves. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that God loves everybody. If God does indeed love everybody, then why would He cast those who do not accept Jesus Christ into Hell for all eternity? Is that love?

                    Watch the #1 Televangelist Gospel Hour in the World! "Turn or Burn: Accept Christ or Go to Hell with Rev. Jim Osborne." Check your local cable listings.

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                    • ZJBOWERS
                      Confirmed Enemy of God
                      BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 11

                      #11
                      Re: Simple Question....

                      To Rev. Jim Osbourne

                      Thank You so much for the kindness and lack of hostility in your reply, however

                      It is clearly stated that hate is a part of sinful nature. Regardless of who he is speaking to it is a universal truth. My argument is that God does not hate and also i do not believe God sends people to hell. We send ourselves to hell. God doesnt sit on some high horse checking off whether your part of the heaven or hell club. Through our sins we distance ourselves from God and He, being without sin, cannot have us in his presence as utter purity and goodness.

                      Also referring to these verses you have posted hate in these instance is used in a distancing manner.

                      Our outcomes are the consequences of our own choices.

                      And for the life of me i cannot find the introductory forum. could someone help direct me please.

                      I just want to make it clear im not out to challenge anyones belief but simply wish to share my own. i hope we could all have a Godly attitude towards that

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                      • Oakland "Reb" Griner
                        True Christian™
                        True Christian™
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 2241

                        #12
                        Re: Simple Question....

                        Sounds like ecumenicalism to me !!

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                        Jud 1:15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are unGodly among them of all their unGodly deeds which they have unGodly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which unGodly sinners have spoken against him.

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                        • Capt. Aaron Portway
                          One of the Lord's Airborne Rangers
                          Salvation from Above
                          God's Favorite Pilot™
                          True Christian™
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 6309

                          #13
                          Re: Simple Question....

                          Originally posted by ZJBOWERS View Post
                          Galatians 5:22-23 reads as such in the KJV version of the Bible: "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
                          Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law."
                          Attention Unsaved Trash: This the ONLY subforum you can start threads in. Here is where you introduce yourself. Tell us what church you go to and what your favorite Bible verse is and how you came to find Jesus.


                          And you might want to consider turning the attitude down a bit. You are a guest here.
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                          God Bless John Boehner and God Bless the Grand Old Party!



                          Barack Hussein Obama is not My President!!!

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                          • Nobar King
                            Municipal Code Archivist - Deuteronomy 28:58
                            Christ's Guardian
                            True Christian™
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 23748

                            #14
                            Re: Simple Question....

                            General Church Fellowship


                            Sub-Forums: The introduction forum,
                            May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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                            • ZJBOWERS
                              Confirmed Enemy of God
                              BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 11

                              #15
                              Re: Simple Question....

                              Thank you for the links. I dont want to come off as attitudy. i was curious as to whether the same could be said to user Metatron13. He seems to fancy himself a flawless judge of belief and character. I just wanted to quote the entire verse i gave.

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