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  • When prayer is wrong. (When unsaved trash do it.)

    In this godly article posted in the Newnan, GA local newspaper John Crotts

    jcrotts@FaithBibleChurch.us of the Faith Bible Church gets it 100% right.


    Make sure to give his books good reviews, my fellow Christians!

    Recently, I preached a message which stirred some of the listeners up. The message included a section about praying in accordance with God's will. The Bible assures us that when we pray according to God's will our prayers are heard and answered (1 John 5:14, 15).
    The controversy began when I brought up well-meaning people on the radio and TV that say things like, "Let's remember so-and-so in our thoughts and prayers." I suggested that that might not be good advice to just pass out to everyone listening. Let me walk you through my thought process before you decide if you agree with me.
    Pastor Crotts tells it exactly like it is. Not all people's prayers are equal. In James 5:16, God tells us that the prayer of the righteous man avails much!.

    Jesus tells us that God doesn't like the prayers of heathens. Matthew 6:7

    God also says He doesn't listen to sinners. John 9:31


    But their good intentions get tricky, however, because the "thoughts and prayers" bit is so general, that many people who listen and may actually pray won't have their prayers count towards God's final answer. I'm suggesting that everyone's well-meaning thoughts and their well-meaning prayers are not equally good!
    Amen!! Pastor Crotts goes on to explain that our God is angry and vengeful. If you want your prayer answered, don't ask unsaved trash to help.
    Most would agree that it is important to pray to the right God. In John 14:6, Jesus is very clear that he is the only way to God the Father. You can have another opinion, but you must realize that your opinion is different than what Jesus taught. "Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." So anyone who is praying to another god is not connecting with the God of the Bible in those prayers.
    But what about those who basically believe that the God of the Bible is true, but they just don't care about him except during a big crisis? Should we encourage people like that to remember miners trapped in a shaft to be rescued, for example?
    Perhaps some of their prayers would be like, "God, I haven't paid you much attention. I don't love you or even want to. I don't care about obeying your commands. I'm pretty happy just doing my own thing. But, uh, will you rescue the trapped minors?"
    If I was a well-known rebel in a country with a fierce dictator and was actively rejecting his rule, how would it go if I showed up in his throne room dressed in my "I hate the dictator" T-shirt, and then asked for a big favor? I might be executed before I even finished making my request.
    The big reason why I think it might not be such a good thing to tell everyone everywhere to prance into God's presence and flip him up a prayer request is that God is a fiercely holy being. He hates sin and rebellion. His wrath is boiling right now against all of those thoughtlessly living only for themselves. There is a reason he made hell. It was not an afterthought.
    Friends, I believe we have a modern day Jonathan Edwards in our midst.
    Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.


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    Re: When praying is wrong. (When unsaved trash do it.)

    Thank you for posting this! It makes a lot of sense and the scripture helps tremendously.

    To be honest, the problem really never occurred to me, though. I encounter so many atheists and heathens that I sometimes forget that there are way more false Christians out there. I always thought false prayers and prayers to false deities or non-deities (whatever atheists worship) went, by default, to /dev/null.
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      Re: When praying is wrong. (When unsaved trash do it.)

      A graduate of Liberty University. I'm impressed

      This should be earmarked for all of the unsaved trash that comes here and says that God doesn't exist because they didn't get a pony when they were 6.
      PROOF: Atheists are too stupid to understand the Bible!

      Proverbs 13:24(KJV): "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes."

      Galatians 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

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        Re: When praying is wrong. (When unsaved trash do it.)

        Thanks, Brother Levi, for sharing this!

        Maybe he should be invited to join this forum . . . He could be a True Christian(tm), with a little guidance!
        Bible boring? Nonsense!
        Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
        You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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          Re: When praying is wrong. (When unsaved trash do it.)

          My new friends, Christians have prayers. Other may simply have positive thoughts that they wish to send to those who need it. It's really the same thing - a simple message sent through the universe (or through god, as you would put it) intended to have a positive outcome towards the person meant to receive it. I see no harm in it.

          With Light and Love,
          Beamer

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            Re: When praying is wrong. (When unsaved trash do it.)

            Originally posted by beaner View Post
            My new friends, Christians have prayers. Other may simply have positive thoughts that they wish to send to those who need it. It's really the same thing - a simple message sent through the universe (or through god, as you would put it) intended to have a positive outcome towards the person meant to receive it. I see no harm in it.

            With Light and Love,
            Beamer
            Could you please back this up with scripture?

            Jonah 2:1 Then Jonah prayed unto the LORD his God out of the fish's belly,

            Matthew 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

            Matthew 17:20-22 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you. Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting. And while they abode in Galilee, Jesus said unto them, The Son of man shall be betrayed into the hands of men:

            Matthew 21:22 And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.

            I don't see any scripture that says that "thinking good thoughts will make everything better".
            PROOF: Atheists are too stupid to understand the Bible!

            Proverbs 13:24(KJV): "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes."

            Galatians 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

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              Re: When praying is wrong. (When unsaved trash do it.)

              Originally posted by Seth Campbell View Post
              Could you please back this up with scripture?
              Greetings, my friend Seth! Thank you for taking notice of my post. I have mentioned before that I cannot back up anything with scripture because I know very little about scripture. Since I do not live by the bible, I have no reason to use it in forming my opinions.

              However, your opinions are just as valid as mine are and I fully support your right to think and feel however you wish. I look forward to the day that we can set aside our differences and learn from each other.

              With Light and Love,
              Beamer

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                Re: When praying is wrong. (When unsaved trash do it.)

                Originally posted by beaner whore View Post
                .........
                However, your opinions are just as valid as mine are and I fully support your right to think and feel however you wish.

                No, No, No, No!!!

                Brother Seth is a True Christian(tm).

                You are Unsaved Trash of the greaser persuasion. Your opinions carry no weight here in God's Favorite Forum.
                The Honorable HTannor (Pro NRA, Anti-Homer Marriage), Judge, Freehold Supreme Court

                "Credo elvem etiam vivere"

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                  Re: When praying is wrong. (When unsaved trash do it.)

                  Originally posted by beaner whore View Post
                  Greetings, my friend Seth! Thank you for taking notice of my post. I have mentioned before that I cannot back up anything with scripture because I know very little about scripture. Since I do not live by the bible, I have no reason to use it in forming my opinions.
                  No you atheists are all alike, can't back up a thing, yet you think your opinions are as valid as anyone who has actually thought this stuff through. You never did say how "positive thoughts" are as powerful as prayer.

                  However, your opinions are just as valid as mine are and I fully support your right to think and feel however you wish. I look forward to the day that we can set aside our differences and learn from each other.
                  No. Seth's opinions are backed up by Scripture and therefore right with God. Your opinions are based on your drug induced haze.
                  Drama queen

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                    Re: When prayer is wrong. (When unsaved trash do it.)

                    We really should remember Pastor Crott's words here.
                    Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.


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                      Re: When prayer is wrong. (When unsaved trash do it.)

                      I pray to jesus christ our lordly father that the muslamics will perish horrible deaths


                      Hallaluyeah and such

                      The lord is with me and also with you. Hamen

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                        Re: When prayer is wrong. (When unsaved trash do it.)

                        Your prayers always go unheard. YOU FILTHY WHOREMONGERING JEWS!

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                          Re: When prayer is wrong. (When unsaved trash do it.)

                          Originally posted by BluuddyChrist View Post
                          Your prayers always go unheard. YOU FILTHY WHOREMONGERING JEWS!
                          Demons are getting the best of you? Pray them away.



                          Just read the KJV Bible and turn your life over to Jesus and your anger can be cured. Contact our pastors for more information.
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                            Re: When prayer is wrong. (When unsaved trash do it.)

                            You people are so fucking sick in the head that I can't even take it. Even though heaven and hell are both bullshit retarded concepts, I almost wish there was a hell so you pieces of shit could go fucking roast there forever. You represent everything that's wrong with the world today. Every single one of you is a RETARDED INBRED FUCK and.
                            Fuck all of you.

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                              Re: When prayer is wrong. (When unsaved trash do it.)

                              Originally posted by IAmADICK View Post
                              You people are so piffleing sick in the head that I can't even take it. Even though heaven and hell are both bullshit retarded concepts, I almost wish there was a hell so you pieces of shit could go piffleing roast there forever. You represent everything that's wrong with the world today. Every single one of you is a RETARDED INBRED piffle and.
                              piffle all of you.
                              I'll be praying for you to find Jesus, friend.
                              Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.


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