[Levi Jones]

Re: Following the advice of the Rev.

Noticed I said "one of the most" inheritances. I meant this to be inclusive,but I purposely left the ambiguity in there to see how it would be interpreted. I see some vindication of my reason to do so in your numbers. Why are the number of Jews in the thousands, and the rest is in the millions? I think I know why, but I rather you tell me.

I have no idea. I guess I could have said, "over a quarter million" like I said, "half a million for France." I also combined the British and American losses into 1 million, when I could have said, "half a million each."

It's purely semantics.

How is it that you know your testament if you don't believe in Jesus?

[Didymus Much]

Re: Following the advice of the Rev.

If this is the case,why does this site object to people coming here ant saying that you have it all wrong...

Because these people do not have it all wrong. They are the most Biblically accurate Christians I have ever come across.

... Aren't you doing yourself a disservice by holding on to beliefs that even the church itself has said should not be taken literally?...

Which church would that be? Please, do not say Roman Catholic. With the amount of their BS that directly contradicts the Bible they have no claim to name "Christian" to begin with.

...If you stuck to the facts about Noah's flood,...

And just what would those "facts" be?

...you personally would have to rely on speculation and supposition to explain it. Where as I would use math and physics, something that is real and provable to show where it could not have happen...

Logic, science and "proof" all go out the window quite easily when someone says, "God did it".

...So lets not be hypocritical.

I'll hold you to that. You're welcome to do the same for me.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: How White is Jesus?

If this is the case,why does this site object to people coming here ant saying that you have it all wrong. Aren't you doing yourself a disservice by holding on to beliefs that even the church itself has said should not be taken literally?

Didymus is an atheist. I see you are, too.

What "church" said the Bible shouldn't be taken literally? The Catholic Cult? They're Hellbound idolators who think their "pope" can speak for God.

If you stuck to the facts about Noah's flood,you personally would have to rely on speculation and supposition to explain it.

Why would I need "speculation and supposition"? The Bible makes it clear that when God made the earth, there was a firmament above it, and waters above the firmament. Then, when it was time for the Flood, He opened windows in the firmament and let the water flow down to drown all the people, and babies, and bunnies, and bees, and puppy dogs.

Where's the speculation there?

Where as I would use math and physics, something that is real and provable to show where it could not have happen.

Really? OK, show that it could not have happened.

Take care in your explanation to include plate tectonics, including uplift and deformation of the crust from the weight of concentrated water, as one would see if a sudden deluge covered the planet and then began deforming the crust through its massive weight, uplifting certain areas and compressing others.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: How White is Jesus?

Are you being pedantic?

Never.

The Orthodox Word says he did.

http://orthodoxword.wordpress.com/20...t-from-cyprus/

Why should I care what an orthodox church member thinks? I care about what God wants me to do, and to that end I read the Holy Bible, King James Version.

Are you saying they are wrong, and you are right?

The LORD Himself is very clear that orthodox cathlics are not Christians.

[Seventy]

Re: How White is Jesus?

Didymus is an atheist. I see you are, too.

Atheists,at least the ones I know don't defend God, or any religion. But this is what he seems to be doing. Have you seen me defend God? No,you haven't.

What "church" said the Bible shouldn't be taken literally? The Catholic Cult? They're Hellbound idolators who think their "pope" can speak for God.

Yes,the Catholic Church is one. I'm surprised that you have this view looking at all of what they have done in the name of God. Can you edify me on this matter? What is the difference between the Pope, and a pastor/preacher? They both seems to be speaking for God.

Why would I need "speculation and supposition"?

I don't think I said this to you.

The Bible makes it clear that when God made the earth, there was a firmament above it, and waters above the firmament. Then, when it was time for the Flood, He opened windows in the firmament and let the water flow down to drown all the people, and babies, and bunnies, and bees, and puppy dogs.

Where's the speculation there?

There is none, but there is another interpretation of this. One that I know you will not agree with so I would mention it. What I think you are doing is responding to a post I made to another member. Can't he defend himself?

Really? OK, show that it could not have happened.

Take care in your explanation to include plate tectonics, including uplift and deformation of the crust from the weight of concentrated water, as one would see if a sudden deluge covered the planet and then began deforming the crust through its massive weight, uplifting certain areas and compressing others.

Ok, now I see. You are taking up his fight. I really don't have to go that deep,but what I do need is the numbers you want me to use for the dimensions of the Ark,the number of species there are/were, and which flood story are we going to use. (Genesis Chapter 7 verse 17) or (Genesis Chapter 7 verse 24)


The reason I want you to supply them so the claim I used bad data in my calculations. And one last question,are we going to be addressing ships ballast systems and operations?

[Seventy]

Re: How White is Jesus?

The LORD Himself is very clear that orthodox cathlics are not Christians.

Where in the Bible does it say this?

[Levi Jones]

Re: How White is Jesus?

Where in the Bible does it say this?

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

[Seventy]

Re: How White is Jesus?

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

I don't see the word Orthodox Catholic, so this is a interpretation then.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: How White is Jesus?

[Levi Jones]

Re: How White is Jesus?

I don't see the word Orthodox Catholic, so this is a interpretation then.

It is not an interpretation. The orthodox are idolators. The Bible is against idolatry. Therefore, the Bible says the orthodox are not Christian.

There's no interpretation involved.

[Seventy]

Re: How White is Jesus?

It is not an interpretation. The orthodox are idolators. The Bible is against idolatry. Therefore, the Bible says the orthodox are not Christian.

There's no interpretation involved.

Ok,I see your point.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: How White is Jesus?

Atheists,at least the ones I know don't defend God, or any religion. But this is what he seems to be doing. Have you seen me defend God? No,you haven't.

As we've pointed out repeatedly, he is defending what is factual about the Bible instead of your raging ignorance.

Yes,the Catholic Church is one. I'm surprised that you have this view looking at all of what they have done in the name of God. Can you edify me on this matter? What is the difference between the Pope, and a pastor/preacher? They both seems to be speaking for God.

The Pope claims to be God's infallible representative on Earth. A pastor tells people what the Bible says, and does not make things up and put them in God's mouth.

Ok, now I see. You are taking up his fight. I really don't have to go that deep,but what I do need is the numbers you want me to use for the dimensions of the Ark,the number of species there are/were, and which flood story are we going to use. (Genesis Chapter 7 verse 17) or (Genesis Chapter 7 verse 24)


The reason I want you to supply them so the claim I used bad data in my calculations. And one last question,are we going to be addressing ships ballast systems and operations?

There is no reference in the Bible to "species", only "kinds". Maybe you should learn the difference.

Genesis 7:17 and Genesis 7:24 are the same story.

It RAINED for 40 days. The waters PREVAILED ON THE EARTH 150 days. It did not RAIN for 150 days.

Follow into Genesis 8 and you will see that the waters only began to recede after 40+150 days, and they were in the ark a full year in total.

Reading comprehension. Work on it.

[Seventy]

Re: How White is Jesus?

There is no reference in the Bible to "species", only "kinds". Maybe you should learn the difference.

Species
Definition

noun, singular or plural: species

(taxonomy)

(1) The lowest taxonomic rank, and the most basic unit or category of biological classification.

(2) An individual belonging to a group of organisms (or the entire group itself) having common characteristics and (usually) are capable of mating with one another to produce fertile offspring. Failing that (for example the Liger) It has to be ecologically and recognisably the same.

kind2    [kahynd] Show IPA
noun
1.
a class or group of individual objects, people, animals, etc., of the same nature or character, or classified together because they have traits in common; category: Our dog is the same kind as theirs.
2.
nature or character as determining likeness or difference between things: These differ in degree rather than in kind.
3.
a person or thing as being of a particular character or class: He is a strange kind of hero.
4.
a more or less adequate or inadequate example of something; sort: The vines formed a kind of roof.
5.
Archaic .
a.
the nature, or natural disposition or character.
b.
manner; form.

Why must I always educate you? Maybe you should learn the meaning of synonymy. There are plenty words you use when recall scripture that was not used in the bible,so lets not go down that road,you would lose. Unless you speak like this: "A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a cubit shalt thou finish it above; and the door of the ark shalt thou set in the side thereof; with lower, second, and third stories shalt thou make it."

Genesis 7:17 and Genesis 7:24 are the same story.

It RAINED for 40 days. The waters PREVAILED ON THE EARTH 150 days. It did not RAIN for 150 days.

Not so fast, these don't read the same.

2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.

3 Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth.

19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.

20 Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive.

I ask again,which value do you want me to use? And don't dodge it by pointing out an insignificant use of a synonym.

Follow into Genesis 8 and you will see that the waters only began to recede after 40+150 days, and they were in the ark a full year in total.

I specifically asked for the Ark dimensions,did I not?

Reading comprehension. Work on it.

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You keep using this same old line while showing that it applies to you more than it does me. So lets be clear what I want. I want the Ark measurements LxWxH,I also want what value you are going to use for the animals. I can't ask it any simpler.

Now do I need to explain volume to you to show why I need this data?

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: How White is Jesus?

I can't ask it any simpler ... Now do I need to explain volume to you to show why I need this data?

Let me see if I get this right. You complain people aren't paying attention to your questions, yet at the same time you ask about Ark dimensions in a thread titled "How White is Jesus?"

Since I am a nice guy and you are clearly very lazy, I looked it up for you:

Genesis 6:15 "And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits."

Happy now?

[Deaner]

Re: How White is Jesus?

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