[Lisa H]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

As a gay Christian myself, I find the opinions expressed in this thread highly offensive and demeaning. Moreover, they are ABSOLUTELY contrary to both the letter and the spirit of Scripture. Answer me this. Why would any person CHOOSE to be gay in a world where they are constantly mocked and vilified by the likes of some of the comments on this thread???

Why would you want to come here to be mocked & vilified, unless you wont to leave your homer ways.

[Higgins]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

As a gay Christian myself, I find the opinions expressed in this thread highly offensive and demeaning. Moreover, they are ABSOLUTELY contrary to both the letter and the spirit of Scripture. Answer me this. Why would any person CHOOSE to be gay in a world where they are constantly mocked and vilified by the likes of some of the comments on this thread???

Ok, Christianity aside, let me ask you something. Let us say that I have you tortured, is that wrong? If you said yes, then why? Odds are you would say that 1. I am not into pain (but you are a homer so who knows you might be), or 2. It is wrong to impede on someone's choice. If 2, then you must choose to do something (in this case not to be tortured). If intrinsically choice is the defining aspect to any moral system without God, then one ought not to do things which would impede others choices, right?

So what does this have to do with love? Well it is my belief that one chooses who they love. Let us say some harlot comes up to me, scantily dressed and says "Oh Higgins, I want you right now here on the street corner". I have two choices. I can a. have knowledge of her right there on the street corner or b. choose not to do so. I can choose to spend time with the harlot and try to bring her back to Jesus or I can go on my merry way. It is my choice who I spend time with. I also hold that no one falls in love with another person instantaneously, one must spend time with another person in order to actually love and care for them. In this case one chooses to go see them and spend time with that person. If one falls in love or chooses to do so, then it is that persons choice which allowed for it. Ergo, if you are homersexual it was your choice to fall in love with the male or female of your choice.

Now stop your debauchery and come back to Jesus, He loves you.

[Christian_Rover (aka Danny the queer)]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

Ok, Christianity aside, let me ask you something. Let us say that I have you tortured, is that wrong? If you said yes, then why? Odds are you would say that 1. I am not into pain (but you are a homer so who knows you might be), or 2. It is wrong to impede on someone's choice. If 2, then you must choose to do something (in this case not to be tortured). If intrinsically choice is the defining aspect to any moral system without God, then one ought not to do things which would impede others choices, right?

So what does this have to do with love? Well it is my belief that one chooses who they love. Let us say some harlot comes up to me, scantily dressed and says "Oh Higgins, I want you right now here on the street corner". I have two choices. I can a. have knowledge of her right there on the street corner or b. choose not to do so. I can choose to spend time with the harlot and try to bring her back to Jesus or I can go on my merry way. It is my choice who I spend time with. I also hold that no one falls in love with another person instantaneously, one must spend time with another person in order to actually love and care for them. In this case one chooses to go see them and spend time with that person. If one falls in love or chooses to do so, then it is that persons choice which allowed for it. Ergo, if you are homersexual it was your choice to fall in love with the male or female of your choice.

Now stop your debauchery and come back to Jesus, He loves you.

I was talking about sexual attraction, not love!
I have been with Jesus these past 17 years, I don't need to GO anywhere.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

As a gay Christian myself, I find the opinions expressed in this thread highly offensive and demeaning. Moreover, they are ABSOLUTELY contrary to both the letter and the spirit of Scripture. Answer me this. Why would any person CHOOSE to be gay in a world where they are constantly mocked and vilified by the likes of some of the comments on this thread???

As a "christian" how can you say your gay. It is pretty much one or the other. Have you not read the Bible? Do you not understand how God feels about homosexuality? If we are contrary to the scripture, please point it out. I can pretty much assume that it would be you that are wrong since our pastors have spent numerous hours studying the Bible. I have not had a question yet that they were unable to answer.

As for someone choosing to be gay, well usually it's something deep seated in the psyche. A need to feel like an outcast, to perhaps hurt his parents the way that the homer felt hurt by them. Quite often it is as simple as an overbearing mother and a wall flower father. Anyway, there is a lot of studies that have been done. You can be cured, many on this board have been cured of their homosexuality. One thing I will warn you about is it seems that the ex-gay is hated even worse than the gay itself. You get attacked by conservatives who believe once gay always gay, and then you get attacked by the liebral left who tell you to give up your new ways and get back to the debauchery because you're screwing up their world view.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

As a gay Christian myself, I find blahblah blah....

SCREEEEEECH! Stop right there, butterscotch.

It is simply not possible to be a queer and a Christian at the same time. That's like saying you're a Christian witch or a Christian vegetarian or a Christian child molester or a Christian muslim or a Christian dope addict.

Not possible. Being a queer is a sin. End of story. God hates you as long as you choose to wallow in your sinful lifestyle choice.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

As a gay Christian myself, I find the opinions expressed in this thread highly offensive and demeaning. Moreover, they are ABSOLUTELY contrary to both the letter and the spirit of Scripture. Answer me this. Why would any person CHOOSE to be gay in a world where they are constantly mocked and vilified by the likes of some of the comments on this thread???

You need to explain how you get off accusing us of being "contrary to both the letter and spirit of Scripture", when you are the one who is a faggot.

Where in the Bible does it say to stick your tallywacker up another man's poop chute? It doesn't. But it says many times not to.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (King James Version) 9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.


Leviticus 18:22 (King James Version) 22Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.


Leviticus 20:13 (King James Version) 13If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.


Romans 1:26-27 (King James Version) 26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

I think you are just trying to gross us out by rubbing our noses in your butt sex way of life.

Moreover I must say that I disagree with homosexuality mainly because all fags insist on raping little boys. I find this to be even worse than getting a grown man's feces all over your penis and face. Raping little boys is the worst thing about homers.

How do you answer to these allegations, faggot?

[A Follower]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

I was talking about sexual attraction, not love!

You excuse your sinning by claiming another sin equally as bad? Have you honestly never read anything in the Bible that shows God hates men who lust after men (or women for that matter).

Romans 1:18-32
18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

How dare you call yourself Christian you demon-spawned homofag!

[Pastor Bizzle-Rizzle]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

Why would any person CHOOSE to be gay?

If you is gay, it ain't cause you was born that way, so don't be frontin. It's cause yo ass made a CHOICE to diss God, so he done turnt yo ass gay, sucker. Check out Romazizzle 1:28, home-slice.

[Christian_Rover (aka Danny the queer)]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

SCREEEEEECH! Stop right there, butterscotch.

It is simply not possible to be a queer and a Christian at the same time. That's like saying you're a Christian witch or a Christian vegetarian or a Christian child molester or a Christian muslim or a Christian dope addict.

Not possible. Being a queer is a sin. End of story. God hates you as long as you choose to wallow in your sinful lifestyle choice.

I am afraid it is you who are wrong my friend. God loves the world - the whole world as per John 3:16 - gays and blacks and Jews included! You might not like that, but it is the way it is. Homosexuality is nowhere condemned in Scripture.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

I am afraid it is you who are wrong my friend. God loves the world - the whole world as per John 3:16 - gays and blacks and Jews included! You might not like that, but it is the way it is. Homosexuality is nowhere condemned in Scripture.

Keep reading John 3, false Christian.


18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

[Christian_Rover (aka Danny the queer)]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

So what? What part of the world does God not love then?

[A Follower]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

I am afraid it is you who are wrong my friend. God loves the world - the whole world as per John 3:16 - gays and blacks and Jews included! You might not like that, but it is the way it is. Homosexuality is nowhere condemned in Scripture.

What kind of dumb interpretation of Scripture is that?
That's like if I said I love my house, so I must love the termites that live in it too. Stupid of course, I love my house so I would want to annihilate the termites before they destroy my house.

Same thing with God, God loves this flat expanse of rock and water, so He sent Jesus to get rid of the sinners, as is clearly explained in John 3:16-20.

Your personal interpretation is wrong, because you made up the bit where you think God also said He loves everything that lives on the world. He did not say that! God even warned you not to do that:

Revelation 22:18
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

2 Peter 1:20
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

So what? What part of the world does God not love then?

Most of it.

[Christian_Rover (aka Danny the queer)]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

Wrong, pastor!

John 3:16 says 'God so loved the world'.

You say he doesn't love most of it.

Seems to me like someone is contradicting Scripture!

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

Wrong, pastor!

John 3:16 says 'God so loved the world'.

You say he doesn't love most of it.

Seems to me like someone is contradicting Scripture!

You didn't read one word of the scripture did you.

John 3
15That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

There you go, if you still have trouble reading this, I suggest you change the settings on your monitor.