[Lisa H]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

Wrong, pastor!

John 3:16 says 'God so loved the world'.

You say he doesn't love most of it.

Seems to me like someone is contradicting Scripture!

Don't just pick a few words from the Bible. He wanted you to believe in him.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

[Christian_Rover (aka Danny the queer)]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

John 3:16 says 'God so loved the world'.

Now none of what you have cited contradicts any of that. And to say that he doesn't love any part of it - including unrepentant sinners - contradicts that part of the verse.

[Lisa H]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

John 3:16 says 'God so loved the world'.

Now none of what you have cited contradicts any of that. And to say that he doesn't love any part of it - including unrepentant sinners - contradicts that part of the verse.

You must have failed comprehension at school. You cannot just pick a few words from a sentence. You talk like a politician who mangles his opponents words to get win votes.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

Homosexuality is nowhere condemned in Scripture.

So how do you interpret Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Deuteronomy 23:17, 1 Kings 14:24, Romans 1:25-28, 1 Corinthians 6:9, and 1 Timothy 1:9-10, among others?

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

John 3:16 says 'God so loved the world'.

Now none of what you have cited contradicts any of that. And to say that he doesn't love any part of it - including unrepentant sinners - contradicts that part of the verse.

So you just pick and choose what to believe out of the Bible, and then you wonder why you're considered unsaved trash?

We've pointed out over and over how you are wrong, but all you do is stick your fingers in your ears like a two-year-old having a temper tantrum. Maybe once you actually grow up you'll understand. Either that or enjoy hell, whichever.

[Seth Campbell]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

John 3:16 says 'God so loved the world'.

Now none of what you have cited contradicts any of that. And to say that he doesn't love any part of it - including unrepentant sinners - contradicts that part of the verse.

So if I read your post the same way that you read the Bible, you're saying that God doesn't love any part of it. After all...

John 3:16 says 'God so loved the world'.

Now none of what you have cited contradicts any of that. And to say that he doesn't love any part of it - including unrepentant sinners - contradicts that part of the verse.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

So how do you interpret Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Deuteronomy 23:17, 1 Kings 14:24, Romans 1:25-28, 1 Corinthians 6:9, and 1 Timothy 1:9-10, among others?

I'm afraid you'll get nothing but the sound of crickets from him on that. He is desperately attempting to justify his homerism against his alleged faith.

[Trixxie]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

it's true. I was a fag, but after praying for the mony for my vagina operation I'm a straight.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

it's true. I was a fag, but after praying for the mony for my vagina operation I'm a straight.

That's not a vagina. It's just a mutilated penis.

[self_abusing_sinner]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

Homosexuality isn't inborn, it is a corruption of the healthy sexuality into lust (depraved or sinful sexual desire), and it is based in the other sins. Ultimately, it comes down to seeing other people as threats to ones power or fame or control over other or situations, and in trying to maintain a grip on that, people go well they go very far, some even turn themselves into gays to maintain that, to sort of maintain control by creeping other people out. That's about all homosexuality is, and of course, it is extremely beastly when it becomes practiced goes even without saying everybody feels that way, our empathy or 'sense of spiritual things' tells us it's wrong, we know it is. And it is wrong because it isn't sex based on love but sex based on a sinful, evil desire for control and power.

That is why repenting of said attitude will actually cure it, and is the ONLY thing that will cure it. And that's the truth.

Tone down your social and career ambitions and you won't be gay. Learn temperance in your desires and life will be more pleasant, more beautiful, much less perverted and depraved.

Homosexuality is depraved. It comes from greed and wanting power, not from love or any sense of reason or sanity. It is sexual actions based in hate, and therefore, ALWAYS WRONG. People that are against it are right. Simply way it is. Can't change gravity and can't change that.

Regards.

sas

[Seth Campbell]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

Homosexuality isn't inborn, it is a corruption of the healthy sexuality into lust (depraved or sinful sexual desire), and it is based in the other sins. Ultimately, it comes down to seeing other people as threats to ones power or fame or control over other or situations, and in trying to maintain a grip on that, people go well they go very far, some even turn themselves into gays to maintain that, to sort of maintain control by creeping other people out. That's about all homosexuality is, and of course, it is extremely beastly when it becomes practiced goes even without saying everybody feels that way, our empathy or 'sense of spiritual things' tells us it's wrong, we know it is. And it is wrong because it isn't sex based on love but sex based on a sinful, evil desire for control and power.

That is why repenting of said attitude will actually cure it, and is the ONLY thing that will cure it. And that's the truth.

Tone down your social and career ambitions and you won't be gay. Learn temperance in your desires and life will be more pleasant, more beautiful, much less perverted and depraved.

Homosexuality is depraved. It comes from greed and wanting power, not from love or any sense of reason or sanity. It is sexual actions based in hate, and therefore, ALWAYS WRONG. People that are against it are right. Simply way it is. Can't change gravity and can't change that.

Regards.

sas

Are you actually accusing people who are career minded of being Gay? Wow, I mean just wow, people who want to get ahead are gay, all lawyers and doctors are gay.

[self_abusing_sinner]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

Unless they generally have their desires and ambitions in check, it is my belief they will be.

"What does it avail a man to win the world if he should lose his soul". - Jesus Christ

Ambition is what drives that and is the ultimate source of all kinds of depravity, I know, because I walked that path, I was raised secular, and wanting to save my soul, I've come to religion.

"You can't have it all". - sas

The Catlyks would say one has to practice temperance over excess or greed, vanity or ambition.

Working for the common good is something else though, one can do good through those offices, but if the goal is money I'm betting those people are more gay than straight. Can't serve God and Mammon (greed), you know this better than I do I think.

Regards,

sas

[Seth Campbell]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

Unless they generally have their desires and ambitions in check, it is my belief they will be.

"What does it avail a man to win the world if he should lose his soul". - Jesus Christ

Ambition is what drives that and is the ultimate source of all kinds of depravity, I know, because I walked that path, I was raised secular, and wanting to save my soul, I've come to religion.

"You can't have it all". - sas

The Catlyks would say one has to practice temperance over excess or greed, vanity or ambition.

Working for the common good is something else though, one can do good through those offices, but if the goal is money I'm betting those people are more gay than straight. Can't serve God and Mammon (greed), you know this better than I do I think.

Regards,

sas

wow

So anyone with ambition is gay. I'm so shocked that I can't reply to that. I have an MBA plus an Engineering degree so in your mind, I'm gay.

You, son, have a very very screwed up view of the world. I don't know what those catholic priests did to you, but they seem to have shaken your brains.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

You…have a very very screwed up view of the world

Couldn't it be the world that is screwed up? Just look what happens to people who seek high office in Satan's realm.
EZEKIEL 16:24 thou hast also built unto thee an eminent place
sounds like that ambition you were laughing about! And look what happened - just like God told Ezekiel.
EZEKIEL 16:25 …hast made thy beauty to be abhorred, and hast opened thy feet to every one that passed by
Once you tread the path of lewd ambition, there really is no hope for you!
ROMANS 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections .. ..
Quick!! Better get that sex change!!!
1:27b .. .. receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
EZEKIEL 16:30 How weak is thine heart, saith the LORD GOD, seeing thou doest all these things, the work of an imperious whorish woman
What was that you were saying about Godless ambition? Not so funny now, is it?
IT EFFECTS EVERYONE - the law becomes corrupt, look at what's going on in England! And Australia has no government at all as these very heathens fight among themselves for their "high place" in "society"
HABAKKUK 1:4 Therefore the law is slacked, and judgment doth never go forth: for the wicked doth compass about the righteous; therefore wrong judgment proceedeth.
MARRIED YOUR BOYFRIEND WHO HAS ALSO HAD A SEX-CHANGE? Have fun mocking!!!!
HABAKKUK 2:16 Thou art filled with shame for glory: drink thou also, and let thy foreskin be uncovered: the cup of the LORD's right hand shall be turned unto thee, and shameful spewing shall be on thy glory.
How sweet, by contrast, the Godly ambition of our Pastors. As America gets led along the broad path to destruction by self-seeking hypocrites, I remind myself that wherever I am, the flame of Satan's killer lusts, the roar of his perversions in our ears are in an instant quelled by that still, quiet voice.
1 KINGS 19:12b …and after the fire a still small voice.
Still think we're the ones screwed up?

[Seth Campbell]

Re: Homosexuals Are Not Born That Way!

Couldn't it be the world that is screwed up? Just look what happens to people who seek high office in Satan's realm.
EZEKIEL 16:24 thou hast also built unto thee an eminent place
sounds like that ambition you were laughing about! And look what happened - just like God told Ezekiel.
EZEKIEL 16:25 …hast made thy beauty to be abhorred, and hast opened thy feet to every one that passed by
Once you tread the path of lewd ambition, there really is no hope for you!
ROMANS 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections .. ..
Quick!! Better get that sex change!!!
1:27b .. .. receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
EZEKIEL 16:30 How weak is thine heart, saith the LORD GOD, seeing thou doest all these things, the work of an imperious whorish woman
What was that you were saying about Godless ambition? Not so funny now, is it?
IT EFFECTS EVERYONE - the law becomes corrupt, look at what's going on in England! And Australia has no government at all as these very heathens fight among themselves for their "high place" in "society"
HABAKKUK 1:4 Therefore the law is slacked, and judgment doth never go forth: for the wicked doth compass about the righteous; therefore wrong judgment proceedeth.
MARRIED YOUR BOYFRIEND WHO HAS ALSO HAD A SEX-CHANGE? Have fun mocking!!!!
HABAKKUK 2:16 Thou art filled with shame for glory: drink thou also, and let thy foreskin be uncovered: the cup of the LORD's right hand shall be turned unto thee, and shameful spewing shall be on thy glory.
How sweet, by contrast, the Godly ambition of our Pastors. As America gets led along the broad path to destruction by self-seeking hypocrites, I remind myself that wherever I am, the flame of Satan's killer lusts, the roar of his perversions in our ears are in an instant quelled by that still, quiet voice.
1 KINGS 19:12b …and after the fire a still small voice.
Still think we're the ones screwed up?

You weren't here for the entire conversation. He insulted my wife to the point that she had to block him. He hit on the men here because "men with trimmed beards are gay". He accused us all of being pedophiles and "training our young girls to hit on older men". He said that any person who has any form of ambition is gay.

You may want to look at entire conversations before deciding to take the side of an insane unsaved Catholic against our Holy community.