[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

Liberal Christians will tell you the first five books of the Old Testament are "folk history."

Is that like "locker room talk"? People dismiss it like that but it when the chips are down you play the cards. God wrote it, believe it.

[Johny Joe Hold]

I noticed no Liberal Christian has ever been able to address these fine points. What an embarrassment it must be to identify as one. Liberal Christianity is the result of a lifetime of shame and lack of love.

One wonders which is worse, liberal Christians or atheists. If I had to vote it would be liberal Christians. There they sit using the label, Christianity, Jesus died to save. Atheists are terrible, but they don't steal the label of Christianity.

Liberal Christians will tell you the first five books of the Old Testament are "folk history." They don't like to recognize God punished sin nor that Moses was a hero. I always tell them, "God wrote it. Believe it."

[Mary Etheldreda]

I noticed no Liberal Christian has ever been able to address these fine points. What an embarrassment it must be to identify as one. Liberal Christianity is the result of a lifetime of shame and lack of love.

[Dennis Lukes]

Re: Questions to ask liberal "Christians"

Robert DeNiro ... God will laugh at them when they die and go to hell. And I will laugh with Him.

Skip to 4:13 and point and laugh with me as Ronald McDonald shoots Robert De Niro in the face at point blank range on live television. Just imagine the glee, the sheer ecstasy that will be felt by Christ when this horrible man finally dies. Viewer discretion advised: the F-word is used in this clip

Here's another good one (skip to 1:00). Warning: an unmarried woman is depicted on a social outing with two unmarried men.

[JakubDovac]

Re: Questions to ask liberal "Christians"

I totally agree. NOWHERE are we told to love everyone. Only OUR personal enemies. NOT God's enemies. Before I love people like Robert DeNiro or Bruce Springsteen, they first need to wake up. But I doubt they will, and I wonder if they even can. God will laugh at them when they die and go to hell. And I will laugh with Him.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Questions to ask liberal "Christians"

How very postmodern of you. Lots of people have faith in lots of things, not all of which can logically be true. If God didn't provide us with a way to determine whose faith was correct and whose wasn't, God would have failed as God.
How hard would it be for an omnipotent God to express Himself clearly enough to avoid the need for all of that? "

Well we do agree on the fact that, if God failed to express himself clearly, he could not be almighty in the same time. But us, humans, are both fallible and really prompt to mix our own circumstances (by example political investment) and God's will. ( For examples of human ingenuity I strongly recommend C.S. Lewis's book "The Screwtape Letters" )
Are you really ready to take responsibility for each and every madman who obeyed his own wishful thinking and started, in his own delusions, to extract from the Bible (which one do not really matter) whatever character he liked, then started to act in a way he sincerely thought biblical ?
Is there really no need of a coordination of believers putting theirs faith in a trustworthy man (some people call them "pastor) to determine what it is correct to believe when you want from the bottom of your heart to keep on Christ's tracks , to answer his call:

" And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me."

Luke 9 : 23, King James Bible

Yours in Christ.

One part of my response that you conveniently snipped is that God repeatedly promised to preserve His words. Did He renege on His promise, or did fallible human beings somehow overpower the Almighty?

[Basilissa]

Re: Questions to ask liberal "Christians"

Well we do agree on the fact that, if God failed to express himself clearly, he could not be almighty in the same time. But us, humans, are both fallible and really prompt to mix our own circumstances (by example political investment) and God's will. ( For examples of human ingenuity I strongly recommend C.S. Lewis's book "The Screwtape Letters" )
Are you really ready to take responsibility for each and every madman who obeyed his own wishful thinking and started, in his own delusions, to extract from the Bible (which one do not really matter) whatever character he liked, then started to act in a way he sincerely thought biblical ?

As long as a person truly acts in a way which is sincerely biblical (including wiping off entire nations from the face of the earth, bashing babies' heads against the stones, ripping pregnant women's bellies open, etc, etc), then this person is not a madman.

Everybody else (people who do not follow the word of God) are, in fact, either crazy or completely dumb.

Is there really no need of a coordination of believers putting theirs faith in a trustworthy man (some people call them "pastor) to determine what it is correct to believe when you want from the bottom of your heart to keep on Christ's tracks , to answer his call:

No. The Holy Bible is written in a plain and simple language - you would have known if you have ever picked it up. The Catholic Church, however, wants to keep their flocks away from reading the Bible, so they won't realize how un-Biblical their teachings are.

[In-Human]

Re: Questions to ask liberal "Christians"

It's a Catholic thing. It's Latin for "All My Damn Gods." Being pagans, they incorporate their pagan gods and goddesses into their "Saints" collection. This AMDG thing is a way to honor their pagan gods and goddesses, most especially Mary. It's sad, really. These Catholics have no idea of their own pagan roots, they just believe whatever their priests tell them.

Language, my dear, language . Since when "All My Damn Gods" is Latin ? But I must admit you successfully made me chuckle, which is a good thing.
Do you know the etymology of pagan ? It comes from "pagus", from the Latin language you seem to despise so, and it means "peasant", by opposition to the townspeople who where mostly already christians (and Catholics, mind you). Indeed, the first Christian people among your own ancestors were inhabiting inside cities, because that's where the faith spread easily.

The more you know ...


(and A.M.D.G. means Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam (for God's greater glory). For those who wondered, I prefer not to let a doubt over its meaning)

[In-Human]

Re: Questions to ask liberal "Christians"

[QUOTE=Pastor Isaac Peters;1124663]How very postmodern of you. Lots of people have faith in lots of things, not all of which can logically be true. If God didn't provide us with a way to determine whose faith was correct and whose wasn't, God would have failed as God.
How hard would it be for an omnipotent God to express Himself clearly enough to avoid the need for all of that? "

Well we do agree on the fact that, if God failed to express himself clearly, he could not be almighty in the same time. But us, humans, are both fallible and really prompt to mix our own circumstances (by example political investment) and God's will. ( For examples of human ingenuity I strongly recommend C.S. Lewis's book "The Screwtape Letters" )
Are you really ready to take responsibility for each and every madman who obeyed his own wishful thinking and started, in his own delusions, to extract from the Bible (which one do not really matter) whatever character he liked, then started to act in a way he sincerely thought biblical ?
Is there really no need of a coordination of believers putting theirs faith in a trustworthy man (some people call them "pastor) to determine what it is correct to believe when you want from the bottom of your heart to keep on Christ's tracks , to answer his call:

" And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me."

Luke 9 : 23, King James Bible

Yours in Christ.

[In-Human]

Re: Questions to ask liberal "Christians"

Are you a Jesuit?

No, but I actually like theirs motto, a reminding of what truly matters.

[BaptistBethany]

Re: Questions to ask liberal "Christians"

It's a Catholic thing. It's Latin for "All My Damn Gods." Being pagans, they incorporate their pagan gods and goddesses into their "Saints" collection. This AMDG thing is a way to honor their pagan gods and goddesses, most especially Mary. It's sad, really. These Catholics have no idea of their own pagan roots, they just believe whatever their priests tell them.

Dear Mary, Like you said, it is sad. Most Catholics have never even read the Bible. If they would only read it, then they would truly become enlightened and realize the truth.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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A.M.D.G.

Are you a Jesuit?

It's a Catholic thing. It's Latin for "All My Damn Gods." Being pagans, they incorporate their pagan gods and goddesses into their "Saints" collection. This AMDG thing is a way to honor their pagan gods and goddesses, most especially Mary. It's sad, really. These Catholics have no idea of their own pagan roots, they just believe whatever their priests tell them.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Questions to ask liberal "Christians"

Well then, answering questions by more questions :
"We often hear that the Genesis creation accounts were never meant to be read literally. What historical evidence do you have for that assertion?"
Who need a proof ? What historical evidence have we at all of the Genesis creation ? You and me do not need proofs of that, because we have the Bible, which is not a rational argument, but a faith fact. A proof is a rational factor none expects from you, so why would you ever expect it from other christians ? (Unless someone can rationally prove each and every quote from the Bible he uses, which none will never ever be able to do).

How very postmodern of you. Lots of people have faith in lots of things, not all of which can logically be true. If God didn't provide us with a way to determine whose faith was correct and whose wasn't, God would have failed as God.

"Which is the Word of God: those people’s interpretation of the Bible, or the Bible? If you are justified in reading the Bible in that way, why are homosexuals not equally justified in doing so?" To understand something, one needs to interpret it by the bias of language ; that's why there skilled and unskilled translators, as well as misunderstanding. That's why it's impossible to "literally" understand the Bible : a book inspired by God but done by mans, situated in its own cultural context but holding eternal truths, containing some heartwarming stories but also philosophical considerations, deserves at least to be treated with the respect the lesser assyrian scroll earns :experts who spent a lifetime doing researchs studies them, concert with each other and gain a transient understanding of it. Later on, they will work further on it to improve the gained knowledge, justifying theirs own authority on the rightness of theirs judgment. That is how knowledge works, like God's actions in our world, by "sharing the divine) Love."

How hard would it be for an omnipotent God to express Himself clearly enough to avoid the need for all of that? God's words, which He repeatedly promised to preserve, cannot be analogized to secular writings.

Are you a Jesuit?

Given that person's ability to say a lot without actually answering the questions, that's entirely possible.

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: Questions to ask liberal "Christians"

A.M.D.G.

Are you a Jesuit?

[In-Human]

Re: Questions to ask liberal "Christians"

Please post the Scripture that backs up your claim.

Spoiler alert: Jesus is a REPUBLICAN.

And I do think Jesus said something like "give back to Caesar what is his own" ... If he did not want to be politically invested in his own country, why would he ever bother to decide between two equally corrupted wings in the XXI th century ?

A.M.D.G.