[Morton Weinstein]

Re: Sainthood

Even Joos are aware of the story of the grotto in Lourdes and of the poor suffering Bernadette. Her story breaks my heart - how poorly she was treated! Some of those nuns were bitches (sorry ladies) and are likely rotting in hell now.


I take it that Baptists do not agree with people becoming saints. I continue to learn as I spend time with you and I am grateful for that. Oy, so much to understand! Of course, in the years I've been His child, He has taught me much through reading the scriptures. I love reading about the covenant God made with Abraham. Don't you?

[Dennis Lukes]

Re: Sainthood

Some of those nuns were bitches (sorry ladies) and are likely rotting in hell now.

All nuns are in Hell Morty, or will be. Only Christians get into Heaven (John 14:6).

I take it that Baptists do not agree with people becoming saints.

Sainthood is not a Biblical concept, and therefore not part of Christianity. Those so-called "Saints" are burning in Hell completely unaware of their canonization. Really what they are are not saints but artificial pagan false gods for the Catlicks to worship.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Sainthood

All nuns are in Hell Morty, or will be. Only Christians get into Heaven (John 14:6).

Even catholics could experience a deathbed conversion, accepting Jesus as He really is despite all the indoctrination. Satan knows this too, and came up with the abomination of "Last Rites" to get one of his priests right there muttering into The Loved One's earhole, probably at close range, with any final opportunity to hear the Christian message rendered virtually impossible.

But a virtual impossibility is still a finite probability so that, however unlikely, a catholic may still be Saved. I won't speculate how that would come about, the priest having a stroke maybe or being struck dumb in mid-mutter. Perhaps during a sudden windstorm a window blew out and from an adjacent sports day the javelin struck him in the occiput? These would be idle speculations and not strictly germane to the question of saints. Although popes like to think they're the original leaders of Christendom, nothing could be farther removed from the truth. Catholicism is a recent splinter group dating back to some mutual excommunications in 1054. Rome thitherto had been one among many.. "bishops" I suppose you'd call them.. and whether or not the bishops of Rome thought thought they were popes is immaterial. The rest continued much as they had before, without Rome (or assorted other catholics) and calling themselves orthodox. Before that however there had been other schisms and multiple other "communions" in different places – such as Africa for example. The dates are easy to find for anyone interested.

Matthew 27
50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

Blasphemy is the stock in trade for popes and cardinals. Their idols and whatever it is they're supposed to represent are a direct affront to God. It can only be intentional. EITHER their senior clergy have studied Scripture (which is what they're paid to do) and are deliberately misrepresenting it OR what they're peddling has nothing to do with God and they're flat-out lying. Nothing represented by an idol to which one may pray in the hope of its wraith picking up on the request can be any sort of Christian. The Bible identifies this process as demonic but people who don't care what The Bible says could call them anything at all. Even "saints" although for them to provide an actual witness they do need to physically emerge from the grave, as recorded by Matthew and witnessed by a centurion. If the saints emerging from the ground had been Vulcan or Minerva I'm sure the centurion would have commented on that highly unusual occurrence. But he didn't.

54 Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.

The next point is a simple question of what the false "saints" in catholicism are supposed to do, which is to intercede on our behalf. God has made known to us something quite different. Saints (those who accept Jesus Christ as Lord and follow His teaching) are the ones requiring intercession, not the ones interceding. Mary does not intercede. Jude does not intercede. Popes do not intercede. The Bible is explicit and I'll just post one short passage to show I'm not making stuff up or suggesting opinions and interpretations of Scripture.

Romans 8:26b-27
26b We know not what we should pray for as we ought:
26c But the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27a And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit,
27b Because he maketh intercession for the saints
27c According to the will of God.

The Bible is clear. It's intercession for. the saints, not intercession by. the saints. Which makes it clear that papist clergy are lying on this topic exactly as they lie about all other topics when seen in the light of God's Inerrant Word.