[Meek and Humble]

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I was under the impression that the Catholic Church was the original Christian Church. Isn't this correct? I learned this in school...

Of course you learned it in school, the Catholic propaganda machine is enormous. The Catholic Church was created in the 4th century by the pagan emperor Constantine. The early Christians of the 3 centuries did not have the silly superstitious beliefs, and most of them were hunted down and killed after Catholicism became the state religion.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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I was under the impression that the Catholic Church was the original Christian Church. Isn't this correct? I learned this in school...

If you would have gone back and read this thread from the start, you would have been spared the humliation you currently suffer.

[gregmayer]

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If you mean kings, secular judges etc.. Then that just isn't true.. But even if it was:
Would it mean that you're somehow innocent of those murders then? Of course not.
If you hire a hitman to kill someone, you're pretty much as guilty of murder as if you do it yourself.

And you already know that the cathylick "church" WAS the "local authority"!
It could even make and break kings, thus making it the most powerful mortal authority at the time, both local and global.
Anyone who opposed the antichrist pope risked getting stripped of his crown.
No wonder they "agreed" to help and/or allow your dirty work.



So you admit that what you did was wrong?
What happenend to your notion of infallability doctrine-wise?
And you've just proved that you are liars and not real Christians.

He that saith,
I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1 John 2:4

Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not:
Whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
1 John 3:6



What a hypocrite you are!
If anyone here was judged and killed by local authorities without involvement of a church, it was those cathylicks.
But now all of a sudden you think that's wrong..



Is this some kind of pedophile-code for one or another unspeakable act that you perform on altarboys?



Would you stop asking that?
Unless you actually are the literal male parent of your entire congregation, you can't use it as an excuse anyways.



Yeah.. it's a custom (tradition), a custom that transgresses the commandments of God. Just like the pharisees did.
(Matthew 15:3-8)

A Different commandment, a different tradition, but exactly the same behavior.



Could somebody (read: you) tell me WHY YOU ARE ACTING LIKE THEM? (See above.)



That's probably the lousiest argument I've ever heard.
So if an obviously literal use of the word brother doesn't even mean brother anymore, why does the use of the word (for example) mother still mean mother?

Stop twisting scripture, papist dog.



If she hadn't even been conceived, how can you call her the Mother of God?
A REAL mother always predates her children, you know..
Or maybe you actually don't know.. the things cathylicks don't know could fill the Vatican archives.



See above.
Mary was the earthly container for Jesus earthly form, that's it.



Yes.



What a typical papist reaction:
You KNOW you commit a sin so instead of repenting you try to make yourself look better by trying to drag others down with you.



And you will also find:
And as they did eat, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and brake it, and gave to them, and said, Take, eat: this is my body.
And he took the cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them: and they all drank of it.
And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many.
Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God.
Mark 14:22-25

Jesus Himself says He's drinking wine, fool.



Of course he would go to hell!
He would never have been Saved to begin with if he acted like that! (1 John 3:6-7)
If you had read the Bible you would KNOW that the Saved CANNOT FALL FROM GRACE. (John 10:27-29)



The story goes to prove that Peter was quite fallible doctrine-wise.
So if not even Peter was infallible, how could any pope ever be?



Show me where it says that He is made pope..
That isn't in the Bible, and the office didn't even exist yet.
Also show me where the power God gives to Peter is supposed to be passed on to another..
Especially another who isn't even chosen by God, but by a council of mortal men!

You can't, beacuse it isn't there.
There is no Biblical base for the office of pope, you've only turned to the story of Peter in a futile attempt to validate your pathetic excuse of a "church"..
Just too bad for you Peter never preached to the gentiles nor set foot in Rome.
You should have checked if your lies hold water first.. (Galatians 2:7-9)



I'll ask (basically) the same question again:
Where does it say that the power God gave to the apostles is supposed to be passed on?
Especially on people YOU and not God, chose?



If your doctrines couldn't be trusted then, why should they be trusted now?
As I said.. what happened your silly notions of being infallible doctrine-wise?



Other way around, fool..

^^^^^^^
You Judge the Catholic Church so harshly and judge it, saying that since it has sinned that it is not the true church because of this. If a few men joined your priesthood and started molesting alter boys does that mean your church is false? No, it is false because of many other reasons. You call Catholics dogs? All men are your brothers and I don't think God would be very happy with you slamming people for making an argument that makes sense. What you are doing is deflecting arguments because you can't answer them. But by far the worst thing you have written here is that the man who sinned so badly "couldnt be saved with to begin with" and that "of course he would go to hell" You actually said that he would go to hell... That is not for you to say. You don't know where God would send him. You are not to judge another man. Every man can be saved. Hitler could be in heaven, so could stalin so could Caligula. You could even go to heaven. I mean you and your church are such and have never committed sins right? your argument is that the church launched the crusades and that is evil so now the catholic church has no credibility and can not be the catholic church because of that. Your acting as if your church is the only church that doesn't commit sins and are the pure ones. Hitler believed that the germans were the perfect race. My advice is to stop calling people dogs and cathylicks (<---???????WHY???) and fools but rather try to convert sinners. So you say the saved cannot fall from grace? so what your saying is nobody can be saved? We have free will. God welcomes the sinners and this page does not. Why don't you focus on being useful and saving people rather than writing pages on how catholics are dogs and making childish nicknames for them. Jesus wants you to try your very best to follow in his footsteps but if you don't exactly he knows you have human weakness to sin. Its called concupisense. I am a sinner, You are a sinner, we are all sinners because we have all sinned once in our lives. That doesnt mean we cant carry out gods will and look to be in a relationship with him which is ultimatly our life goal and Jesus's life goal for us.

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

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^^^^^^^
You Judge the Catholic Church so harshly and judge it, saying that since it has sinned that it is not the true church because of this. If a few men joined your priesthood and started molesting alter boys does that mean your church is false? No, it is false because of many other reasons. You call Catholics dogs? All men are your brothers and I don't think God would be very happy with you slamming people for making an argument that makes sense. What you are doing is deflecting arguments because you can't answer them. But by far the worst thing you have written here is that the man who sinned so badly "couldnt be saved with to begin with" and that "of course he would go to hell" You actually said that he would go to hell... That is not for you to say. You don't know where God would send him. You are not to judge another man. Every man can be saved. Hitler could be in heaven, so could stalin so could Caligula. You could even go to heaven. I mean you and your church are such and have never committed sins right? your argument is that the church launched the crusades and that is evil so now the catholic church has no credibility and can not be the catholic church because of that. Your acting as if your church is the only church that doesn't commit sins and are the pure ones. Hitler believed that the germans were the perfect race. My advice is to stop calling people dogs and cathylicks (<---???????WHY???) and fools but rather try to convert sinners. So you say the saved cannot fall from grace? so what your saying is nobody can be saved? We have free will. God welcomes the sinners and this page does not. Why don't you focus on being useful and saving people rather than writing pages on how catholics are dogs and making childish nicknames for them. Jesus wants you to try your very best to follow in his footsteps but if you don't exactly he knows you have human weakness to sin. Its called concupisense. I am a sinner, You are a sinner, we are all sinners because we have all sinned once in our lives. That doesnt mean we cant carry out gods will and look to be in a relationship with him which is ultimatly our life goal and Jesus's life goal for us.

tl:dr Our problem with the catholics is the way they cooped the Roman pagan traditions, their absolute corruption throughout history and their flat refusal to adhere to the Bible instead of the pope as their final authority.

[Cursed]

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^^^^^^^
You Judge the Catholic Church so harshly and judge it, saying that since it has sinned that it is not the true church because of this. If a few men joined your priesthood and started molesting alter boys does that mean your church is false? No, it is false because of many other reasons. You call Catholics dogs? All men are your brothers and I don't think God would be very happy with you slamming people for making an argument that makes sense. What you are doing is deflecting arguments because you can't answer them. But by far the worst thing you have written here is that the man who sinned so badly "couldnt be saved with to begin with" and that "of course he would go to hell" You actually said that he would go to hell... That is not for you to say. You don't know where God would send him. You are not to judge another man. Every man can be saved. Hitler could be in heaven, so could stalin so could Caligula. You could even go to heaven. I mean you and your church are such and have never committed sins right? your argument is that the church launched the crusades and that is evil so now the catholic church has no credibility and can not be the catholic church because of that. Your acting as if your church is the only church that doesn't commit sins and are the pure ones. Hitler believed that the germans were the perfect race. My advice is to stop calling people dogs and cathylicks (<---???????WHY???) and fools but rather try to convert sinners. So you say the saved cannot fall from grace? so what your saying is nobody can be saved? We have free will. God welcomes the sinners and this page does not. Why don't you focus on being useful and saving people rather than writing pages on how catholics are dogs and making childish nicknames for them. Jesus wants you to try your very best to follow in his footsteps but if you don't exactly he knows you have human weakness to sin. Its called concupisense. I am a sinner, You are a sinner, we are all sinners because we have all sinned once in our lives. That doesnt mean we cant carry out gods will and look to be in a relationship with him which is ultimatly our life goal and Jesus's life goal for us.

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[hazzy@hazzy.co.uk]

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It is this kind of propagandist and vitriolic attack on decency that has much of mankind fighting each other instead of behaving in the manner that out Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ would have us.

I can see why some of the issues can come across when put they way they do, but the actions of individuals can't take away from all the good that your faith brings the world....

feeding the homeless etc...

very interesting thread to read....

[Meek and Humble]

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I can see why some of the issues can come across when put they way they do, but the actions of individuals can't take away from all the good that your faith brings the world....

feeding the homeless etc...

very interesting thread to read....

Doing "good works" won't get you into heaven, and the good actions of individuals can't take away all the evil that the Catholic church brings the world.

[love316]

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This argument is shameful and displeasing to our loving God. Perhaps your time would be better spent spreading the word of God's love than insulting other Christians, Pastor Ezekiel. Do you honestly think that anyone listens to your hate-filled and judgemental vitriol and wants to become a Christian? Shame on you! I will pray for you.

[love316]

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Thanks Greg! I agree with what you said 100%! God is a loving forgiving God, and I beleive we are better served to point that out daily!

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

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This argument is shameful and displeasing to our loving God. Perhaps your time would be better spent spreading the word of God's love than insulting other Christians, Pastor Ezekiel. Do you honestly think that anyone listens to your hate-filled and judgemental vitriol and wants to become a Christian? Shame on you! I will pray for you.

Obviously, you listen enough to get your panties in a twist, register here and start whining in favor of the pointy hatted cult.

[Iznadetthi]

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Just goes to show how much of fools you are...or maybe, you hacks should rewrite history as well. The Christian (your) religion or Baptist (your) religion, or whatever you call it originated from the whinings of Martin Luther because he openly criticised HIS religion which was Catholicism and he was a priest! So, YOUR founder was a goddam priest. So open your eyes hacks, you are all cut from the same page as we are... love it or not CHRISTIANITY INCLUDES CATHOLICS and PROTESTANTS alike.

But you guys...are authentic:

[BelieverInGod]

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Just goes to show how much of fools you are...or maybe, you hacks should rewrite history as well. The Christian (your) religion or Baptist (your) religion, or whatever you call it originated from the whinings of Martin Luther because he openly criticised HIS religion which was Catholicism and he was a priest! So, YOUR founder was a goddam priest. So open your eyes hacks, you are all cut from the same page as we are... love it or not CHRISTIANITY INCLUDES CATHOLICS and PROTESTANTS alike.

But you guys...are authentic:

Oh, there's false Christians galore out there. But please explain why we should consider anyone who doesn't read their Bible and has absolutely no idea what is in it, Christian. Martin Luther did not write the KJV Bible. But hey, you go on believing whatever your priest tells you, I mean, who cares what God actually said in His Book when you've got some child molesting priest up there telling you you'll go to Heaven as long as you tell him all your dirty little secrets.

[wait_what]

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This argument is shameful and displeasing to our loving God. Perhaps your time would be better spent spreading the word of God's love than insulting other Christians, Pastor Ezekiel. Do you honestly think that anyone listens to your hate-filled and judgemental vitriol and wants to become a Christian? Shame on you! I will pray for you.

What shame is to be had in spreading the word? These idol worshiping, ring kissing, no scripture reading, pope loving, boy humping heathens need to be called out for what they are. There is no shame in the truth. The only shame is the embarrassment you show for the truth. Rejoice in the truth brother. It will set you free.

[Rev. Q]

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I wanted to share a Catholic horror story, but didn't feel my anecdote was deserving of its own thread.

A local man, a good Christian who was recently widowed (we'll call him Harley), was telling some tales over a few pints at our local watering hole. He paused before sharing this story, as if he wasn't sure how it would be received, like it might be a bit far-fetched, but here's his story:

Sometime in the 1960s, Harley was working for the City of Milwaukee in the sewer utility. There was a Catholic parish that apparently housed an orphanage, and many rumors surrounded that place (the priests in particular). According to Harley, city workers were called to the orphanage due to a severe sewage backup. This required several workers to be deployed INTO the sewer to assess the problem, while others worked from above. Finally, the cause of the problem was discovered: A major blockage in the pipes caused by unborn baby bodies in various stages of decomposition.

Somehow, the workers were silenced, I assume through some kind of monetary payoff.

I bear no responsibility for the authenticity of the above story, although I trust its source to be accurate (this elderly man broke down and cried detailing the clean-up process, occasionally breaking through his tears to curse the Vatican and their evil priests).

[A Proud Papist]

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Hello everyone.
This is my first post, so forgive me if I speak in a formal tone.
my name, A Proud Papist, pretty much describes me. However, with how people here feel about Catholics, this may infuriate some. This isn't my intent. My intent with my name is to tell people how I am. Honesty is the best policy.

Now, I am not here to convert you guys. Nor should you think you'll succeed in converting me. I think our respective beliefs are set in stone.

I am here, though, to answer individual questions as soon as I possibly can about Catholicism. Whether you ask with tongue-in-cheek, with sincere curiosity, or out of malice, I will try and answer it with the best of my ability.

Dominus vobiscum.

APP