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  • #16
    Re: Christianity is stupid.

    You're writing a lot of things about good and evil, God and man, but I am still unclear of where you are coming from.

    Do you love Jesus? Will you accept His blood sacrifice as the price of your sins? The Bible makes it clear that, "Without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sin." You sound like some sort of humanist to me. Sure, you mention God, but what do you really know about Him?

    Read the Bible for all that you need to know about God, then your heart and mind will be filled; True Religion will follow.

    Invitingly Yours,

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    His left hand should be under my head, and his right hand should embrace me.

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    • #17
      Re: Christianity is stupid.

      Originally posted by margenal View Post
      Of course we can be corrupted and evil, of course we can be dedicated and saints. God created us as free will beings, with universes of possibilities in our hands, people decide of their own ways, good or bad ones.
      Quote scriptures that claim we have free will. I'm about to prove to you using the Bible that we do not.

      Acts 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.

      Ephesians 1:4-5
      According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

      Romans 9:11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth. 12It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
      13As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
      14What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
      15For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
      16So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
      17For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
      18Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
      19Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
      20Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
      21Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
      22What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:


      Originally posted by margenal View Post
      I blame humans for the wrong things and praise god for the good ones?
      Yes when people fail, they always blame themselves. When they do well, they give it all up to God. Why don't they give Him credit for everything?

      Originally posted by margenal View Post
      I don't think god could praise a murder, a war or a cataclysm.
      Is God in control of all things or not? Do you think He feels horrible when He decides to smite an entire city with an earthquake or a hurricane? Does He feel good when he decides to heal the cancer He caused?

      Of course not. God simply is. Our lot in life is not to question it. Ours is simply to obey!
      Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.


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      • #18
        Re: Christianity is stupid.

        Of course i am humanist, to be honnest i'm close to the philisophers of the Age of enlightment but i'm as well a believer, the both are perfectly compatible.
        The whole difference is i follow the New Testament ideals, but i don't follow blindly the Goespel nor the Dogma of the actual roman chirch. Do i love Jesus and God? I believe in them indeed, as well as i believe there is a part of them within anybody...

        It's rather hard to explain but i have a cartesian faith, both believing in god and science, considering the first as the architect of the secondth... After am i right, am i wrong....

        I stand in my faith, as well as i know with our growing knowledges in history and ancients culture we will with time more and more understand the true meanings of the Bible, as as we don't have to forget, the Bible is an ancient book, written following ancient cultures and imageries we still have to understand.
        But nothing will make me change my opinion, the message of Jesus is and always will be the most positive and opened of mankind...

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        • #19
          Re: Christianity is stupid.

          Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

          And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.
          Who Will Jesus Damn?

          Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

          Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

          Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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          • #20
            Re: Christianity is stupid.

            Flaming you? I fear you're taking the thing a bit whole heartly (except following the Lovecratf prank, i admit it was childish)

            I have came here to make my own opinion on a baptist community, to share my ideas and why not debating or making you exposing your point of view. The whole theologies are made of debates, discussions, thesis, antithesis. So i admit we are'nt theologists but believers, but it does'nt negates discussion...

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            • #21
              Re: Christianity is stupid.

              Originally posted by margenal View Post
              Flaming you? I fear you're taking the thing a bit whole heartly (except following the Lovecratf prank, i admit it was childish)

              I have came here to make my own opinion on a baptist community, to share my ideas and why not debating or making you exposing your point of view. The whole theologies are made of debates, discussions, thesis, antithesis. So i admit we are'nt theologists but believers, but it does'nt negates discussion...
              Not interested.

              This is a Christian forum.
              Who Will Jesus Damn?

              Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

              Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

              Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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