[see_the_light]

Re: Was Jesus gay ?

Eh, what do you mean Jesus IS God....

Last time my unreligious head had a think about it he was the 'Son' of God was he not ?

And yes brother prehaps you could teach me the ways of the Bible, Though I really dont think there's a lot of point.... If you sin you are going to hell right ? WELL..... I've got quite the list !!

#I live with my parnter but am not married.
#Drugs... Did Jesus say no to drugs ? He probably did
#Blasphoumy(sp) ? lol
#I had a go at Voodoo in my younger years... Does that make me a Heretic ?
#Does peeing on a church class a Sin ?
#And soooo many more that I cant type as im on a work's PC lol.


So as you can see, Im pretty much buggered


Mark Vi

You are a sinner, but we are all sinners that for the GRACE of GOD would burn in hell.

Accepting that you are a sinner is a good start, but don't flaunt it and don't try hidding your (rightful) fear of JESUS's WRATH behind clownish and childish comments.

I'm starting to think that someone has sent links of this site to every clownish half-witted half-affraid kid in town. But sometimes these things are for the best, joke, be disrespectful, but if our testimony opens the door to your heart, so that JESUS can enter and SAVE YOU, then it was worth it.

If you think you have shocked us, you are wrong, sometimes you will feel our indignation (would you like if someone offended those you love?), sometimes our sadness (could you think that we take any pelasure in seeing fellow creatures of GOD damning themselves? we are no sadists)


You seem clownish but there is something that gives me hope, feel free to ask for our help.

PRAISE THE LORD!

[Mark Vi]

Re: Was Jesus gay ?

To the kind chap above....

What if I would prefer to go to Hell ?

From what the bible and those insane religious screaming fanatic idiots on our streets say Hell is full of all that is sinfull. Am I right in believing that ??

And yes I know there's the eternity of pain and suffering and all that... BUT.

If I had a choice between spending an eternity where there is obviously going to be copious amounts of drugs / probably my partner too as I guesse she's a sinner as well. Then what can I say... Sign me up for hell!

And on a more serious note, You guys keep telling me that the Bible IS fact, and that it was written by god. But as far as I know you are mistaken, The Bible was not actually written in full for over 800 years after the events actually took place. Now YES, the writers of the bible did have access to first hand manuscripts but they where in a different languadges which required interpretation by the writers. (Which is what gave theory to the idea that Jesus was the son of a god, But I dont mean a divine one If you lads are as well up on your history as you make out you will know who/what I mean)


Mark Vi

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Re: Was Jesus gay ?

Eh, what do you mean Jesus IS God....

Here's what Jesus had to say about it:

I and My Father are one. James 10:30.

Or consider John 20:26-31:

And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

How can I make this any clearer? There is only one God. There are three persons who make up this one God. Jesus is the Son of God, meaning the person (the Son) who is part of God. Maybe an analogy will help: your right hand is made up of a palm and five fingers. Your middle finger isn't the same as your index finger, yet they are both part of the same hand.

That's what I mean.

And yes brother prehaps you could teach me the ways of the Bible, Though I really dont think there's a lot of point.... If you sin you are going to hell right ? WELL..... I've got quite the list !!

Then Peter said to them, Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Acts 2:38

If you plan to continue to live in sin, then no, there is no point in teaching you the ways of the Bible.

So as you can see, Im pretty much buggered

It does not surprise me that you are buggered. Not one bit.

What if I would prefer to go to Hell?

Then it looks like your wish will be granted. But why are you spending time on a Christian Forum?

Hell is full of all that is sinfull. Am I right in believing that ??

It is worse than you can possibly imagine.

If I had a choice between spending an eternity where there is obviously going to be copious amounts of drugs / probably my partner too as I guesse she's a sinner as well. Then what can I say... Sign me up for hell!

Hell is not an amusement park for sinners. It is an amusement park for sadistic demons. You will be the ride, not the rider, down there.

as far as I know you are mistaken, The Bible was not actually written in full for over 800 years after the events actually took place.

God dictated Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy to Moses on Sinai. Many of the events that God described occurred hundreds or thousands of years before the time God delivered the Word to Moses. God was an eyewitness to all of those events, so what difference does it make that he dictated this account several hundred years later?

Most of the other books of the Bible report historical events, though they were written much closer to the occurrences described in those books. Some books report events that have not yet happened, but will in the future (e.g., the prophesies of Isaiah and of John in Revelation). The writers of these books were inspired by God.

Now YES, the writers of the bible did have access to first hand manuscripts but they where in a different languadges which required interpretation by the writers.

The writers of the Bible wrote the first hand manuscripts. That's what made them the writers of the Bible. The translators of the King James 1611 version of the Bible were all experts in Biblical Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek (the three languages of the Bible). Their translation, too, was inspired by God.

Which is what gave theory to the idea that Jesus was the son of a god, But I dont mean a divine one.

What gave rise to the mistaken notion that Jesus was not divine was Satan fooling people who had not read the Bible, where it is very clear that Jesus is God.

Here is John 20:26-31 (the quote from above showing that Jesus is God and that Jesus is the Son of God) in the original Greek. In what way did the translators mistranslate this?

και μεθ ημερας οκτω παλιν ησαν εσω οι μαθηται αυτου και θωμας μετ αυτων ερχεται ο ιησους των θυρων κεκλεισμενων και εστη εις το μεσον και ειπεν ειρηνη υμιv. ειτα λεγει τω θωμα φερε τον δακτυλον σου ωδε και ιδε τας χειρας μου και φερε την χειρα σου και βαλε εις την πλευραν μου και μη γινου απιστος αλλα πιστος. απεκριθη θωμας και ειπεν αυτω ο κυριος μου και ο θεος μου. λεγει αυτω ιησους οτι εωρακας με πεπιστευκας μακαριοι οι μη ιδοντες και πιστευσαντες. πολλα μεν ουν και αλλα σημεια εποιησεν ο ιησους ενωπιον των μαθητων α ουκ εστιν γεγραμμενα εν τω βιβλιω τουτω. ταυτα δε γεγραπται ινα πιστευητε οτι ιησους εστιν ο χριστος ο υιος του θεου και ινα πιστευοντες ζωην εχητε εν τω ονοματι αυτου.

If you lads are as well up on your history as you make out you will know who/what I mean

The problem here isn't what we know, it's what you don't know. If you want to criticize the KJV1611 translation of the Bible, then please either (a) spend the time to learn Biblical Greek so we can have a discussion based on facts or (b) at least provide the sources for your statemtents. Vague statements about who wrote the Bible, or what the Bible say (which sound like they're based on nothing more than a Wikipedia article you read two years ago) don't contribute to anyone's understanding of God and the Bible.

Anyway, I've grown tired of this conversation. I am not as forgiving as is Brother See The Light. It's clear to me that (a) you don't care about the Lord, (b) you plan to continue your sinful ways, and (c) you don't have a single fact available to back up any of your arguments. Here's what God told me to do with people like you:

Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. 2 John 1:9-11

[see_the_light]

Re: Was Jesus gay ?

To the kind chap above....

What if I would prefer to go to Hell ?

You don't, believe me on that one...

From what the bible and those insane religious screaming fanatic idiots on our streets say Hell is full of all that is sinfull. Am I right in believing that ??

And yes I know there's the eternity of pain and suffering and all that... BUT.

If I had a choice between spending an eternity where there is obviously going to be copious amounts of drugs / probably my partner too as I guesse she's a sinner as well. Then what can I say... Sign me up for hell!

It's full of sinners, not full of sin, it is no happy hollyday camp for sinners, satan gives no reward.

Even being just the work of a man (and italian to boot) Dante does have a point

«Per me si va ne la città dolente,
per me si va ne l’etterno dolore,
per me si va tra la perduta gente.
Giustizia mosse il mio alto fattore;
fecemi la divina podestate,
la somma sapïenza e ’l primo amore.

Dinanzi a me non fuor cose create
se non etterne, e io etterno duro.
Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch’intrate’.

way to to pain, a pain that comes not from hate, from the love and justice of GOD, everlasting, second only to what is eternal, abandon all hope if you pass that way.

And on a more serious note, You guys keep telling me that the Bible IS fact, and that it was written by god. But as far as I know you are mistaken, The Bible was not actually written in full for over 800 years after the events actually took place. Now YES, the writers of the bible did have access to first hand manuscripts but they where in a different languadges which required interpretation by the writers. (Which is what gave theory to the idea that Jesus was the son of a god, But I dont mean a divine one If you lads are as well up on your history as you make out you will know who/what I mean)


Mark Vi

Mark, all of the KJV is based upon texts directly given by GOD (that's why the latinized versions are no good) the translation was made by men, but GOD dully supported their effort and that is why the KJV is THE PROPER ENGLISH TRANSLATION OF THE WORD OF GOD

As for the dates you mentioned, what 800 years latter? are you mentioning Genesis?

[lord warrior]

Re: Was Jesus gay ?

# [The Key Point] , The full version of St Mark's Gospel which was found at the Mar Saba Monastary implies jesus has a sexual relationship with a boy. Why was this part of the Gospel removed. And does this sound hetrosexual to you....

He found a version of the bible in a catlick monastery. No wonder he thinks Jesus was gay. Those catlicks will go to any lengths to protect there a##. And probably taught the little alter boys that to. That way they could all be more like Jesus when he was sodomizing them.

[Andrew Barrick]

Re: Was Jesus gay ?

I simply do not understand how if God is all powerfull over us why so much evil is in the world
Mark Vi

There is evil in the world because of free will. We are given a choice: whether or not to recognize Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. This choice would not be authentic if we were not given the ability to choose to make it. With free will comes the inherent neutrality of all things. How we use them and the choices we make are up to us. Admittedly, some things are a product of bad choices (like sex toys) and these, in and of themselves, are biased. Free will, not God, is the reason for all of the evil.

[Habib2668]

Re: Was Jesus gay ?

Are you proud of yourself, homer? Coming into a Christian forum and mocking Jesus? Do you fancy yourself shocking to us? Does it make you feel big and important to spit on the only begotten son of God, who temporarily died for our sins?

....what is homer...? homer from the simpsons?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Was Jesus gay ?

....what is homer...? homer from the simpsons?

As in homersexural. A damned queer, which God hates. Ok?

Now why don't you go to the introductions thread and tell us about yourself?

Are you one of these camel lovers?

[Here2SaveYouFromJed!]

Re: Was Jesus gay ?

Wouldn't it be funny if he was? I think so. Then maybe a few of you intolerant people would understand there is nothing wrong with gays.

[StreetPreacherLew]

Re: Was Jesus gay ?

Wouldn't it be funny if he was? I think so. Then maybe a few of you intolerant people would understand there is nothing wrong with gays.

Nothing wrong with shoving one's dingle-dangle up another man's hairy poop-chute?!?

Do you wipe with your bare hand, son?

Why not?
Cause you don't want to get doodie on you, that's why not! It's gross! If you don't want to get it on your hand, why on EARTH would you want to dip your tallywhacker in the POOP FACTORY?!?

It's so obvious, I don't think God even needed to write it down, but He did and it's an abomination, pure and simple.

Funny if ...I can't even say that blasphemy! It's bad enough all the Homers go to Kathy-lick churches just to lust after a statue of muscle-Jesus hanging naked from the cross! Sick Perverts!

[snottyduck]

Re: Was Jesus gay ?

While it's not covered in any scripture I do not believe Jesus was gay although the time he lived in could offer this (don't forget that this was a part of the roman empire, Romans were not unknown to use boys as toys). But since Jesus was not a roman he wouldn't indulge into the behavior of the occupier. And it would serve no purpose to have written all those personal things down, who cares how many women Jesus had, he was a human after all and all work and no play...

[Sister Noddy]

Re: Was Jesus gay ?

While it's not covered in any scripture I do not believe Jesus was gay ...

... he was a human after all, and all work and no play ...

What? ... makes JESUS a dull boy?

Shame on you, Snottyduck! So you're suggesting that our dear LORD was a hit with the ladies, that he played the field?

You should have your mouth washed out with soap for that!

[Eugene Hackwith]

Re: Was Jesus gay ?

I wish I was still young and it was the good ol' days, when the word Gay meant "Happy" and homersexuals were just called queers. My, how times have changed.

As far as Jesus being queer, I say no way that's true. God the Father loved Him.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Was Jesus gay ?

I wish I was still young and it was the good ol' days, when the word Gay meant "Happy" and homersexuals were just called queers. My, how times have changed.

As far as Jesus being queer, I say no way that's true. God the Father loved Him.

Amen brother. Only a queer would accuse Jesus of being a queer.

[Warrior of God]

Re: Was Jesus gay ?

Was Jesus gay?

What a damned stupid silly assed kind of question is that?

Anyone remember who Jesus was ?

He was the son of God...

God made man, then he made woman so Man would have what he needed to prosper and proliferate.

OK, easy enough so far for any heathen thinking Jesus was a gay homo filth factory.

Ig God knew that women were needed for some stuff, including sex, which he obviously did as he invented the means and the idea for it, why the hell would he then make his son a boy-butt bothering homo.

That's like ford turning out a whole load of cars and putting a Honda badge on them.

Jesus gay... stupid as stupid gets...

God is infallible, therefore he could not have made Jesus a homo, that would have been a mistake,
and infallible means God doesn't make mistakes.
OK he might work in mysterious ways some times, but keep it real.
Was Jesus gay.
Fool will be asking was Mary a slut next.
Idiot boy questions from provocateurs.
Sort of question a raghead musselman would be asking.