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  • #46
    Re: Bible Was Written By Men for Men

    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
    That boy is not my president.
    "Boy"? He's older than you, and by the way, sorry if you don't think like him, but, people has rights, and since church and the state are two things apart Obama's going to keep giving those people the rights they deserve, and if you kill some of them you're going right to jail, because nothing is an excuse for murder

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    • #47
      Re: Bible Was Written By Men for Men

      Originally posted by JustBeatMe View Post
      ...nothing is an excuse for murder
      Are you claiming that there is no difference between killing and murder?

      Too bad God (and secular law, too) do not agree with you. What about:

      - defence (of yourself and/or others)
      - law enforcement
      - military
      - diminished capacity

      And those are just the exceptions to your "nothing" that I can come up with off the top of my head.

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      • #48
        Re: Bible Was Written By Men for Men

        Originally posted by Didymus Much View Post
        Are you claiming that there is no difference between killing and murder?

        Too bad God (and secular law, too) do not agree with you. What about:

        - defence (of yourself and/or others)
        - law enforcement
        - military
        - diminished capacity

        And those are just the exceptions to your "nothing" that I can come up with off the top of my head.
        I already say that self and others defence is a good reason, but the other three are simply stupid. If you kill people you don't "enforce" the law, you're just scaring the shit out the people! A person who don't commit a crime just because he's scared to be killed isn't good, because the person hasn't learnt nothing, is simply scared, and any authority that works thanks to fear is... pathetic, worthless and non democratic, just like the nazi germany and some other dictatorships

        "Diminished capacity"? Are you telling me that a person with different capacities must be killed just because that? Now you're talking about genocide, not "God's will". Did you even know that Jesus cured lots of lepers? Exactly, he don't killed them, he cured them. Those people fights everyday to have a place in our society, in fact, here in my country we have the Teleton, which every year (except in years with presidential elections) collect millions of dollars just to help sick and handicaped children and teenagers







        The last time they collected 40 million dollars to all those children

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        • #49
          Re: Bible Was Written By Men for Men

          Originally posted by JustBeatMe View Post
          I already say that self and others defence is a good reason...
          Then you said, "..nothing is an excuse for murder...", so thanks for being consistent.

          ...If you kill people you don't "enforce" the law, you're just scaring the shit out the people! A person who don't commit a crime just because he's scared to be killed isn't good, because the person hasn't learnt nothing, is simply scared, and any authority that works thanks to fear is... pathetic, worthless and non democratic, just like the nazi germany and some other dictatorships...
          And, therefore, by your logic, that list includes the U.S.A., which still executes prisoners. How does it feel to live in a "pathetic, worthless and non democratic" country like the States?

          ..."Diminished capacity"? Are you telling me that a person with different capacities must be killed just because that?...
          Wow. Where did you go to school? Go back and ask them to teach you how to read.

          I said that's a legal defence AGAINST a murder charge (it used to be known as the insanity defence, the phrasing was changed).

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          • #50
            Re: Bible Was Written By Men for Men

            Originally posted by JustBeatMe View Post
            I already say that self and others defence is a good reason, but the other three are simply stupid. If you kill people you don't "enforce" the law, you're just scaring the shit out the people! A person who don't commit a crime just because he's scared to be killed isn't good, because the person hasn't learnt nothing, is simply scared, and any authority that works thanks to fear is... pathetic, worthless and non democratic, just like the nazi germany and some other dictatorships
            So the police should just lay down their arms and let murderers, drug dealers and such kill them? Oh, it's okay that you killed those two police officers because they tried to bust your grow-op, after all, you were just scared.

            Tell that to the Myrol (age 29), Gordon, (28), Johnston, (32) and Schiemann, (25) families. You call them and tell them that you're glad their children are dead because they had no right to kill a crazed drug dealer who was obvioulsy out to kill them. Unfortunately, being Canada, the cops aren't as skilled with weapons as the US police are. But yeah, you go tell their families that their sons were nothing but Nazi's inflicting fear and terror on the poor crazed gunman.

            As for the military, I think you're from England, I assume you're a neo-nazi? Because if Britain hadn't screamed for help from the US military forces you would be a nazi this very moment.

            The way you enjoy violence and death makes me sick. I assume it's all the video games and public brainwashing that you go through.

            "Diminished capacity"? Are you telling me that a person with different capacities must be killed just because that? Now you're talking about genocide, not "God's will".
            Okay, first of all, he's an atheist so no he's not arguing "God's will". Secondly, you have no idea what the legal meaning of diminished capacity is.


            Did you even know that Jesus cured lots of lepers? Exactly, he don't killed them, he cured them. Those people fights everyday to have a place in our society, in fact, here in my country we have the Teleton, which every year (except in years with presidential elections) collect millions of dollars just to help sick and handicaped children and teenagers







            The last time they collected 40 million dollars to all those children
            Ah, so according to you, we should keep them alive because they can be used to make money. Well why didn't you say so? I mean after all, since worshipping the all mighty buck is the way of the sickular world, then of course the retards have more value than someone who can actually perform duties. You can't make money off of people who are capable of living their own lives.

            I believe you are the sickest, most twisted person that I have ever seen on this board. I mean we get our share of stupid internet trolls, but I don't believe you are one of those. I think you actually believe the garbage you type and enjoy the suffering you cause.

            You're demon infested and you like it.
            Drama queen

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            • #51
              Re: Bible Was Written By Men for Men

              Originally posted by JustBeatMe View Post
              "Diminished capacity"? Are you telling me that a person with different capacities must be killed just because that? Now you're talking about genocide, not "God's will". Did you even know that Jesus cured lots of lepers? Exactly, he don't killed them, he cured them. Those people fights everyday to have a place in our society, in fact, here in my country we have the Teleton, which every year (except in years with presidential elections) collect millions of dollars just to help sick and handicaped children and teenagers







              The last time they collected 40 million dollars to all those children
              But that is God's will that the children are born like that. Don't you think that He would cure them if He wanted to? This is probably the result of there fathers, grandfathers or great grandfathers actions.

              Exodus 34:7
              Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.

              YIC

              Jack
              Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

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              I know God wouldn't let me believe in Him if He didn't exist.

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              • #52
                Re: Bible Was Written By Men for Men

                You simply don't understand me, you don't understand nothing I already said here, so let's do it again, shall we?

                You call them and tell them that you're glad their children are dead because they had no right to kill a crazed drug dealer who was obvioulsy out to kill them.
                That's exactly the opposite of what I said, because I said that nothing is an excuse for murder, but self and others defence is a good reason, so if the cops were going to be murdered then they didn't did nothing wrong, now you understand me or you need apples?

                Okay, first of all, he's an atheist so no he's not arguing "God's will". Secondly, you have no idea what the legal meaning of diminished capacity is.
                Well, if I'm talking with a person in a christian forum what do you want to me to think? But anyway, I'm still learning the english language, by the way I don't live in the USA, so, some concepts are still unknown for me, sorry if I made a mistake, I'm human and foreign

                Ah, so according to you, we should keep them alive because they can be used to make money. Well why didn't you say so? I mean after all, since worshipping the all mighty buck is the way of the sickular world, then of course the retards have more value than someone who can actually perform duties. You can't make money off of people who are capable of living their own lives.
                The money if for them, so they're are the ones who are benefited here, because with it they can have wheelchairs, better therapists, education and much more, nobody gain money but the children, so don't twist my words

                As for the military, I think you're from England, I assume you're a neo-nazi? Because if Britain hadn't screamed for help from the US military forces you would be a nazi this very moment.
                I'm not english and I'm not northamerican, I live in Latin America

                Then you said, "..nothing is an excuse for murder...", so thanks for being consistent.
                I said it in another post

                And, therefore, by your logic, that list includes the U.S.A., which still executes prisoners. How does it feel to live in a "pathetic, worthless and non democratic" country like the States?
                I don't live in the USA so my logic is ok, and by the way, execution had been eliminated in my country more than a decade ago, just like abortion, both of them are illegal now

                Wow. Where did you go to school? Go back and ask them to teach you how to read.

                I said that's a legal defence AGAINST a murder charge (it used to be known as the insanity defence, the phrasing was changed).
                As I already said, I didn't know the concept because of my english and because I don't live in the USA, so the way I read has nothing to do

                Ok, now that I explained all maybe you can stop calling me by that stupid names and sending me to your imaginary hell ¬¬

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                • #53
                  Re: Bible Was Written By Men for Men

                  Excuses, excuses, excuses, it's always excuses with you, isn't it.

                  Cops shouldn't be allowed to kill, cops are scary. But when it's brought up that sometimes cops NEED to kill, all of a sudden your song changes.

                  Do you have any moral compass whatsoever? Or do you just flit around depending on the opinions of those around you?
                  Drama queen

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                  • #54
                    Re: Bible Was Written By Men for Men

                    Originally posted by JustBeatMe View Post
                    I






                    She seems 'armless enough.
                    Isaiah 66:15

                    For behold, the Lord wil come with fire, and with his charets like a whirlewinde, to render his anger with furie, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

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                    • #55
                      Re: Bible Was Written By Men for Men

                      Originally posted by JustBeatMe View Post


                      Ok, now that I explained all maybe you can stop calling me by that stupid names and sending me to your imaginary hell
                      "Imaginary hell"!!

                      Now, there is someone who is in for a BIG surprise.
                      Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.

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                      • #56
                        Re: Bible Was Written By Men for Men

                        Originally posted by JustBeatMe View Post
                        Please explain me what have of moral a man abusing of his wife, a child being treated as an object with no feelings, a black person being an slave or a girl being burned alive with no chance of having any help just because the poor thing was no virgin when she get married!
                        OMG...how many times do we have to go over all this ancient history???

                        We're not going to do your homework for you. Read the book!
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