[JustBeatMe]

Re: Bible Was Written By Men for Men

I'm confused. Can you please explain how you've come to the conclusion that you know better than God Himself about what is right and wrong? Can you share with me the Bible passages that helped you come to this conclusion?

Thank you.

No, I won't, because I was using my head to know that, I don't depend of a book to know what's wrong or right, even when the Bible says in some parts that kill is ok (just like burning a girl alive if she's not virgin when she get married) I know is wrong. I think you depend too much of that book to know what to think and that's dangerous and sad at the same time

[Mary Etheldreda]

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No, I won't, because I was using my head to know that, I don't depend of a book to know what's wrong or right, even when the Bible says in some parts that kill is ok (just like burning a girl alive if she's not virgin when she get married) I know is wrong. I think you depend too much of that book to know what to think and that's dangerous and sad at the same time

No dear, what's dangerous is trying to live in a society without God's morals guiding us. Have you ever read the Holy Bible?

[Didymus Much]

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...the Bible says in some parts that kill is ok (just like burning a girl alive if she's not virgin when she get married)...

It's stoning for that (Deuteronomy 22:21), burning's for witches (I think so, at least; all I can find is "suffer not to live").

[JustBeatMe]

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No dear, what's dangerous is trying to live in a society without God's morals guiding us. Have you ever read the Holy Bible?

Please explain me what have of moral a man abusing of his wife, a child being threated as an object with no feelings, a black person being an slave or a girl being burned alive with no chance of having any help just because the poor thing was no virgin when she get married!

And if you talk about that primitive book again I'm not going to answer you, because you talk like a person who was completely brainwashed by this gross cult

[Seth Campbell]

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No, I won't, because I was using my head to know that, I don't depend of a book to know what's wrong or right, even when the Bible says in some parts that kill is ok (just like burning a girl alive if she's not virgin when she get married) I know is wrong. I think you depend too much of that book to know what to think and that's dangerous and sad at the same time

If you read your Bible you would know that only comes into effect if her and her father lied about her being a virgin.

Oh and Deuteronomy 22:21 says stoning not burning, do try and get something right.

I knew my wife was technically no longer a virgin when I married her, so I cannot use that.

After all, 1st Timothy 5:11-14 would be pretty cruel if we forced widows under 60 to marry and then stoned them to death for not being virgins.

11But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry;
12 Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith.
13 And withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not.
14 I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully.


But of course you know the Bible better than we do, we're only "dum kristans".

Is this what it takes for you to feel superior? To come onto a Christian site and harass True Christians(tm) and accuse them of being stupid for not believing in what you do?

Isaiah 29:14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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Please explain me what have of moral a man abusing of his wife, a child being threated as an object with no feelings, a black person being an slave or a girl being burned alive with no chance of having any help just because the poor thing was no virgin when she get married!

And if you talk about that primitive book again I'm not going to answer you, because you talk like a person who was completely brainwashed by this gross cult

It depends on the circumstances, of course. Discipline ought not be confused with abuse.

Why do you react so angrily when I ask if you've read the Holy Bible? Does the question cause you pain and anguish?

[Seth Campbell]

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Please explain me what have of moral a man abusing of his wife, a child being threated as an object with no feelings, a black person being an slave or a girl being burned alive with no chance of having any help just because the poor thing was no virgin when she get married!

Okay, obviously public school English, but who's being abused? Once again the liberal mindset does not understand the difference between correction, punishment, and abuse. Please go find a dictionary and LOOK THEM UP!

And if you talk about that primitive book again I'm not going to answer you, because you talk like a person who was completely brainwashed by this gross cult

You come onto a Christian board and get upset that people talk about the Bible? Just how stupid are you?

[JustBeatMe]

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If you read your Bible you would know that only comes into effect if her and her father lied about her being a virgin.

Oh and Deuteronomy 22:21 says stoning not burning, do try and get something right.

I knew my wife was technically no longer a virgin when I married her, so I cannot use that.

After all, 1st Timothy 5:11-14 would be pretty cruel if we forced widows under 60 to marry and then stoned them to death for not being virgins.

11But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry;
12 Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith.
13 And withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not.
14 I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully.


But of course you know the Bible better than we do, we're only "dum kristans".

Is this what it takes for you to feel superior? To come onto a Christian site and harass True Christians™ and accuse them of being stupid for not believing in what you do?

Isaiah 29:14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.

Ok, ok, I understand the thing about the girls who are not virgin, but still is not a reason to kill a person. But tell me something, what about a man who is not virgin when he get married? Or are you going to tell me that a man shouldn't be pure in his wedding day?

And you think I'm harassing you? Please let me laugh because that's funny.... so, you're the ones who say like 1000 times I'm going to hell, you threat me like a nazi because I'm not a dumb and submissive woman like the ones you like and still you dare to say I'm harassing you because you don't think like me?! I don't care what kind of God you have, there's not excuse to be cynic

[JustBeatMe]

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Okay, obviously public school English, but who's being abused? Once again the liberal mindset does not understand the difference between correction, punishment, and abuse. Please go find a dictionary and LOOK THEM UP!

No, you're the ones who doesn't understand the difference, just look what I find in one of your Facebook profiles, to be specific, in Faith Machine's one



That's "correction", a "punishment" or "discipline" to you? Of course not, that's pure terror and fear, a child who's being abused. Tell me whatever you want, but I remind you that this picture is not mine but of one of your members

You come onto a Christian board and get upset that people talk about the Bible? Just how stupid are you?

If you talk about it with moderation and respect is ok, but if you use it and use the word of our God to attack another people and give excuses to horrid behaviour then is bad, so the stupid people here are you, and you really need somebody to teach you what is wrong or right

[Seth Campbell]

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Ok, ok, I understand the thing about the girls who are not virgin, but still is not a reason to kill a person. But tell me something, what about a man who is not virgin when he get married? Or are you going to tell me that a man shouldn't be pure in his wedding day?

Of course it's important. However, it's obvious that it's more important for the woman to be pure because

1) she's the one who carries the seed
2) The Bible says so
3) God built women with a handy dandy virgin detector called a hymen. Now please explain what possible evolutionary importance the hymen provides if humans are the only ones who have it.

And you think I'm harassing you? Please let me laugh because that's funny.... so, you're the ones who say like 1000 times I'm going to hell, you threat me like a nazi because I'm not a dumb and submissive woman like the ones you like and still you dare to say I'm harassing you because you don't think like me?! I don't care what kind of God you have, there's not excuse to be cynic

I'm sorry, did someone force you to come onto our board? Is someone in your room right now forcing you to read our threads? If you look in the upper right hand corner of your browser, there should be a nice red X, you can click on it and never have to be "abused" by us ever again.

And yes, you're going to Hell. Not our fault, we don't make the rules, we just follow them. Blaming us for you going to hell is like cursing the dark rather than lighting a candle. We've offered you the candle in the form of the KJV Bible, you can crack one open any time.

[Seth Campbell]

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No, you're the ones who doesn't understand the difference, just look what I find in one of your Facebook profiles, to be specific, in Faith Machine's one



That's "correction", a "punishment" or "discipline" to you? Of course not, that's pure terror and fear, a child who's being abused. Tell me whatever you want, but I remind you that this picture is not mine but of one of your members

Actually, looking at the copyright that you so nicely provided, it's the property of Maddox, not ours.

And as far as "abusing" my children. Well at least I know my daughters aren't going to turn into smart mouthed little whores who spend their nights on the internet insulting their betters.

Proverbs 23:13-15 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell. My son, if thine heart be wise, my heart shall rejoice, even mine.

Proverbs 22:15 Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.

Proverbs 29:15 The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame.

I'm sorry that your parents don't love you enough to care about how you will turn out and whether or not your going to be a fool for the rest of your life. But I guess mommy's too busy getting in touch with her inner child to be bothered with the one she spit out.

If you talk about it with moderation and respect is ok, but if you use it and use the word of our God to attack another people and give excuses to horrid behaviour then is bad, so the stupid people here are you, and you really need somebody to teach you what is wrong or right

Can you show me the scripture that says to take it all with moderation and respect? Because that's not what Jesus says.

Luke 11:23 He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

2nd Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
2nd Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Yeah, this isn't sounding like some hippie saying "it's all cool man, whatever".

[JustBeatMe]

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Of course it's important. However, it's obvious that it's more important for the woman to be pure because

1) she's the one who carries the seed
2) The Bible says so
3) God built women with a handy dandy virgin detector called a hymen. Now please explain what possible evolutionary importance the hymen provides if humans are the only ones who have it.

Some girls doesn't have an hymen when they born, and humans are not the only ones who have it, some animals too, like elephants, seals, guinea pigs, bovines, chimpanzees and another species of apes, hyenas and a few more, so we're not the only ones

I'm sorry, did someone force you to come onto our board? Is someone in your room right now forcing you to read our threads? If you look in the upper right hand corner of your browser, there should be a nice red X, you can click on it and never have to be "abused" by us ever again.

No, nobody forced me, I came here because I supposed I would find kind and good people, but instead I just met crazy fanatics who can't even think properly without a 2000 years old book in their hands, but I'm not going to leave until you stop hurting another people

And yes, you're going to Hell. Not our fault, we don't make the rules, we just follow them. Blaming us for you going to hell is like cursing the dark rather than lighting a candle. We've offered you the candle in the form of the KJV Bible, you can crack one open any time.

You send to hell to any person you don't like because he or she is not a fanatic as you or had simply made the horrible mistake of not being a white person, and according to your logic, chinese, hispanic, african and aborigen people will going to hell, just like another bunch of innocent people who are not bad or sinners at all. You make God look like an awful being which hate everyone and that's horrible

[JustBeatMe]

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Actually, looking at the copyright that you so nicely provided, it's the property of Maddox, not ours.

And as far as "abusing" my children. Well at least I know my daughters aren't going to turn into smart mouthed little whores who spend their nights on the internet insulting their betters.

Even if it's from Maddox the message is clear and one of your members is supporting it, so since is his profile is 100% responsable of what he puts on it, and about your daughters, I hope they in some future become smart ladies with enough self steem to think by themselves and loving themselves, becoming better people than their father, I really hope so

I'm sorry that your parents don't love you enough to care about how you will turn out and whether or not your going to be a fool for the rest of your life. But I guess mommy's too busy getting in touch with her inner child to be bothered with the one she spit out.

In fact my parents are very proud of me, they often tells me that I'm very smart, organized, clever and in fact tomorrow I'll start college, and I'm going to go to one of the best colleges in my country so when I graduate I'll find a job soon. I could even work in your country, but I prefer to stay in my home country, so all the things you had just told me had no justification

Can you show me the scripture that says to take it all with moderation and respect? Because that's not what Jesus says.

Why you don't show me the scripture that says that if you believe in God you must be an intolerant asshole?

[Seth Campbell]

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Some girls doesn't have an hymen when they born, and humans are not the only ones who have it, some animals too, like elephants, seals, guinea pigs, bovines, chimpanzees and another species of apes, hyenas and a few more, so we're not the only ones

Huh, so they're born whores.

As for the animals, tell me, do you believe everything you read on the internet?

No, nobody forced me, I came here because I supposed I would find kind and good people, but instead I just met crazy fanatics who can't even think properly without a 2000 years old book in their hands, but I'm not going to leave until you stop hurting another people

Who have we hurt? And once again, why do you think we're the only Bible believing Christians on earth?

Why don't you go bother one of the false Christian cults that do harm? Because you don't care because you already know they're hell bound. You're only here to attempt to steal our souls for your father Satan.

You send to hell to any person

Slow down, deep breaths, we don't send anyone to Hell. Way beyond the authority God has given us. All we can do is warn you which direction you're heading.

If you decide to freak out and stamp your feet and hold your breath and generally have a 2-year-old temper tantrum, that's not our fault. God only calls on us to warn you.

Matthew 10:14-16 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city. Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

you don't like because he or she is not a fanatic as you or had simply made the horrible mistake of not being a white person, and according to your logic, chinese, hispanic, african and aborigen people will going to hell, just like another bunch of innocent people who are not bad or sinners at all. You make God look like an awful being which hate everyone and that's horrible

Uh, you do realize we have black and Hispanic members of our church, right? They've just left their lazy Hell bound culture behind and embraced the KJV Bible.

I don't know why you think sitting around on a stoop, smoking crack and downing a 40 is the way to get into Heaven.

[Levi Jones]

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Dear Heathen,
When the creator of the universe, who has been worshiped since the bronze age, says women are of less value than a man, who are you to question Him?

Leviticus 27:4-6 The valuation of a male from twenty years old up to sixty years old shall be fifty shekels of silver, according to the shekel of the sanctuary. 4 If the person is a female, the valuation shall be thirty shekels. 5 If the person is from five years old up to twenty years old, the valuation shall be for a male twenty shekels, and for a female ten shekels. 6 If the person is from a month old up to five years old, the valuation shall be for a male five shekels of silver, and for a female the valuation shall be three shekels of silver. 7 And if the person is sixty years old or over, then the valuation for a male shall be fifteen shekels, and for a female ten shekels.

Why you don't show me the scripture that says that if you believe in God you must be an intolerant asshole?

Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove [them].

2 Timothy 4:1-2 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

Paul is not making a suggestion here.

Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

While we at LBC do our fair share of rebuking, I want you to look at the word "reprove" I left bold for you. In the Greek, the word is used thusly:

a) generally with a suggestion of shame of the person convicted
b) by conviction to bring to the light, to expose
2) to find fault with, correct
a) by word
1) to reprehend severely, chide, admonish, reprove
2) to call to account, show one his fault, demand an explanation
b) by deed
1) to chasten, to punish

2 John 1:10-11
10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

1 Corinthians 5:11
11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.


Deuteronomy 13:6-10
6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.