[Ebenezer Wright]

Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ?

Hitler and the Nazis were 100% Catholic and the Pope was on their side. You make it seem like Catholics stick to rule books or something? Or have some kind of honour?

Hitler fought for his own ends, sure (that is why ww2 is an atheist war), he wanted power, but that is what being a Catholic is about. Backstabbing, spitting at Christ, stealing money/power by promoting whatever falsity fits the current trend.

Take a look at the vatican, at one stage they wanted to latch on to his power, yet now they condemn him.

You should really know this, chief.

Hitler was born into Catholicism and had Catholic ties, but as an adult he rejected and said nasty things about religion and Catholicism.

[Warrior of God]

Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ?

[quote=jessiesue the halfwit;196335]

Um, every non-True Christian war is fought in the name of the devil, be they catholics, muslims or atheists.

your still not answering the question though are you? if you lot want to convert me you need to tell me specifics as i cant think of one war that was started in the name of satan!

Try looking up the Albigensian Crusade. 13 century...
Catholic Church denounced a bunch of other-religionists called the Cathars and demanded they submit to the Catholic take on God.
Cathars refused.
Result an army led by Simon de Montfort slaughtered its way through the Languedoc, southwest France.
Whole cities,men , women and kids offed in their thousands.
Cathars were interesting folk.
What had they done to upset the papists.?
Simple , they denounced the catholic church as fakers, idolators and liars who ruled over a material empire founded on the catholic lies.
The Cathars even pointed out that the papists and their catholic church were so evil and corrupt that they were actually spawned and inspired by the devil. The Cathars denounced the papists god as Satan.
There you have it.
Either way.
The papist crusaders , so-called, went to war for a Pope, using Satan as his power sourse...
or the Cathars went to war to defend a take on God the papists said was actually a heretic faith worshipping satan.

The Cathars were interesting. I am not learned enough to say how right or wrong their reliigion was , but they did reject and denounce all things papist.
They didn't use the KJ Bible, but it hadn't been written yet, then.
But , the Cathars did denounce all the papist idolatory and greed and corruption and perversion.
They did believe in simple values and simple living. They did believe in purity and chastity.
So maybe the Cathars were closer to right, and God , than any papist of the day.
That way, seems they were right.
papists were serving satan, and went to war against the Cathars in Satan's name.

[Warrior of God]

Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ?

Hitler and the Nazis were 100% Catholic and the Pope was on their side. You make it seem like Catholics stick to rule books or something? Or have some kind of honour?

Hitler fought for his own ends, sure (that is why ww2 is an atheist war), he wanted power, but that is what being a Catholic is about. Backstabbing, spitting at Christ, stealing money/power by promoting whatever falsity fits the current trend.

Take a look at the vatican, at one stage they wanted to latch on to his power, yet now they condemn him.

You should really know this, chief.

Hitler was not 100% catholic.
Hitler, censored priests, pressurised priests into reporting on jews, sent some priests to the camps,
Hitler surrounded the vatican and reduced its power base, ordered it about and stripped way some of its assets. He also robbed catholic churhces and churchmen of art treasures, bullion and relics.
If he had been a catholic he would have been scared crapless of being excommunicated by the pope , as under catholic canon law only the Pope had the power to do any of those things.
Hitler didn't give a flying whatever for the pope , excommunication or naffing off any catholic that got in his way.
Thus...he pretended to be a catholic.

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ?

Try looking up the Albigensian Crusade. 13 century...

Thanks for taking us on this fascinating stroll down memory lane.

They didn't use the KJ Bible, but it hadn't been written yet, then.

That's a pretty lame excuse. If they had been worthy of the KJV, God would have delivered it to them.

But , the Cathars did denounce all the papist idolatory and greed and corruption and perversion.

So do the Jews (well, maybe not the greed and corruption and perversion parts), yet you don't see us trying to be like them. But I suppose I have to admit that those Albinogeneses or whatever they called themselves had one or two good ideas.

[Unfalsifiable]

Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ?

Hitler was not 100% catholic.
Hitler, censored priests, pressurised priests into reporting on jews, sent some priests to the camps,
Hitler surrounded the vatican and reduced its power base, ordered it about and stripped way some of its assets. He also robbed catholic churhces and churchmen of art treasures, bullion and relics.
If he had been a catholic he would have been scared crapless of being excommunicated by the pope , as under catholic canon law only the Pope had the power to do any of those things.
Hitler didn't give a flying whatever for the pope , excommunication or naffing off any catholic that got in his way.
Thus...he pretended to be a catholic.

I'd like to see some sources on this stuff, but either way, he was still a Catholic. All you are doing is merely showing how Catholic he was. Backstabbing money grabbing evildoer. The Pope was cowering from HIM, he was a true winner of the Catholic church, for a while. Not many Catholics have been able to control the pope.

And still, the fact that non-religious wars have slaughtered millions upon millions of people more then religious wars remains especially when concerning Christianity. God is such a loving God.

[Warrior of God]

Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ?

I'd like to see some sources on this stuff,

If you don't already know that stuff, you just don't read enough and shouldn't spout off with such a shaky empirical base for your spouting.
If you really want to broaden your knowledge get off your argumentative ass and try a library. Failing that, there is this thing called an internet. It has a search option. I can't abide idleness in anyone, especially someone trying to sound knowledgeable. If you want links try sausages.

but either way, he was still a Catholic. All you are doing is merely showing how Catholic he was. Backstabbing money grabbing evildoer. The Pope was cowering from HIM, he was a true winner of the Catholic church, for a while. Not many Catholics have been able to control the pope.

again, you seem short on knowledge about how the papist church works.
Their mythology is that the pope antichrists is God's representative on earth. His power is absolute and unassailable, at least that's what the catholics cling to, poor heathens.
To say ' not many catholics have been able to control the pope' , is as dumb as dumb gets. Anyone trying to control the pope breaks every heathen catholic law there is. They cease to be a catholic, they are heretic. They defy their own faith, they damn themselves to excommunication. ANY catholic who DEFIES the pope , defies GOD, in the papists eyes. They do that the aren't a catholic. Hitler did that, he was not a catholic in anything but name.

You need to read up on wHAT CONSTITUTES A RELIGION,
Not THE TRUE RELIGION , A RELIGION.
you will find Hitler and his henchmen fit the cultish take on religion to a T'...
The Nazi movement was just as much a religion as the catholic church.
In fact, set them side by side and there isnt a whole lot of difference.

[Unfalsifiable]

Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ?

If you don't already know that stuff, you just don't read enough and shouldn't spout off with such a shaky empirical base for your spouting.
If you really want to broaden your knowledge get off your argumentative ass and try a library. Failing that, there is this thing called an internet. It has a search option. I can't abide idleness in anyone, especially someone trying to sound knowledgeable. If you want links try sausages.

So you aren't going to provide sources.

again, you seem short on knowledge about how the papist church works.
Their mythology is that the pope antichrists is God's representative on earth. His power is absolute and unassailable, at least that's what the catholics cling to, poor heathens.
To say ' not many catholics have been able to control the pope' , is as dumb as dumb gets. Anyone trying to control the pope breaks every heathen catholic law there is. They cease to be a catholic, they are heretic. They defy their own faith, they damn themselves to excommunication. ANY catholic who DEFIES the pope , defies GOD, in the papists eyes. They do that the aren't a catholic. Hitler did that, he was not a catholic in anything but name.

You need to read up on wHAT CONSTITUTES A RELIGION,
Not THE TRUE RELIGION , A RELIGION.
you will find Hitler and his henchmen fit the cultish take on religion to a T'...
The Nazi movement was just as much a religion as the catholic church.
In fact, set them side by side and there isnt a whole lot of difference.

You make the Catholic Church sound like a practise that is based on some kind of honour or rational system. It is about control via the devil, tricking the masses and making money. It seems like you are reading the Catholic "why hitler wasn't really a Catholic and why you should still pay us" manual or something. You sure you aren't in league with the Papsits?

[Warrior of God]

Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ?

So you aren't going to provide sources.?

I already answered that one. To paraphrase my last answer, which bit of get off your lazy butt and research it, did you not understand.

You make the Catholic Church sound like a practise that is based on some kind of honour or rational system. It is about control via the devil, tricking the masses and making money. It seems like you are reading the Catholic "why hitler wasn't really a Catholic and why you should still pay us" manual or something. You sure you aren't in league with the Papsits?

Only if you're stupid.
I make the catholics sound like a bunch of devilspawned blasphemers who club together to make the most of their perversions and thieving ways.

You are just unhappy because I happen to have shown you up as a loose mouthed teenage chin flapper, with a big head, who is trying to sound clever , but really is managing to make some stupid uninformed, over opinionated , statements while he tries to do a
" look I am right, na na na nah naaah happy dance crossed with an adolescent hissy fit...

Catholics didn't need Hitler's help to be satan-scum, just like Hitler didn't need the Catholic's help to be the same ilk of satan-scum.
But... like most satan scum, they both could only see what was best for their own evil and perverted plans.

By the end of you last statement I would assume you are reading some pretty odd literature. You seem to know an awful lot about the papist's internal books of persuasion...
I never heard of that book you spouted about, but you seem pretty familiar with it and its filthy contents.
Next thing you'll be telling us you aren't a filthy homo but your catholic boyfriend is. maybe even he is a lot older too.

Maybe you might benefit from seeking to learn rather than wanting to win out over people.
Proverbs 24:32
I applied my heart to what I observed and learned a lesson from what I saw:

[Unfalsifiable]

Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ?

So you're not going to provide any sources on Hitler not being a Catholic, and you're just going to flame off at me when I mention the fact that Catholics follow no honourable or logical system.

Can you explain why the Catholic Centre party voted Hitler into the Riechstag? Because they wanted the best for the Catholic people. Get a Catholic leader in there. One with enough skill to control the pope.

I'm pretty sure you're a Catholic, champ.

I'm done with you boy, I think it is time for a senior pastor to set this record straight, you're boiling yourself up into a womanly hissyfit.

Here is something I found from a simple search:

. Let me set the record straight...Adolf Hitler was a Roman Catholic, NOT a Christian. Biblically, only those who rely upon Jesus Christ 100% for salvation are Christians. "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." -John 14:6.

So tell me, is Godly Pastor Ezekiel WRONG? Chief?

[Warrior of God]

Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ?

So you're not going to provide any sources on Hitler not being a Catholic, and you're just going to flame off at me when I mention the fact that Catholics follow no honourable or logical system.

Can you explain why the Catholic Centre party voted Hitler into the Riechstag? Because they wanted the best for the Catholic people. Get a Catholic leader in there. One with enough skill to control the pope.

I'm pretty sure you're a Catholic, champ.

I'm done with you boy, I think it is time for a senior pastor to set this record straight, you're boiling yourself up into a womanly hissyfit.

Here is something I found from a simple search:



So tell me, is Godly Pastor Ezekiel WRONG? Chief?

you're getting desperate in that corner you're talking yourself into...
If you want to learn study , you have shown you have no interest in listening.
So look it up and read.
Hard work and sound application is good for the soul...
try some, it may well help.

How dare you hide behind Pastor Ezekiel'swords, trying to use him as a screen behind which you can strut in your childish arrogance.

Pastor Ezekiel said Hitler was a Catholic, not a Christian...
That's just like saying Hitler was a pan-theist. The catholics do not believe in the Trye God so they're just another lump of satanspawn.
I am sure that the Pastor would have said it plain and called Hitler a papist unbeliever if he thought he needed to.
Saying he was a catholic is like saying Hitler was any kind of heretic or
atheists faker.
The pastor was pointing out out Hitler was a backsliiding idolator who did not know the True God. I doubt the Pastor was making any claim that Hitler was legitimate in his religious beliefs , as you seem to be suggesting.

How dare you try to use the Pastor like some big stick that you can beat anyone who opposes you.
You should be ashamed boy.
You can't get your own way so you start throwing accusations of catholic affiliations about.
You seem very keen on the catholics being the centre of your world.

You watch out for your soul son. Your raging pride and arrogance just made you seek to take a pastor's words and twist them to your will...
I am horrified at your presumption and selfish seeking of advantage.

And why German Catholics would have voted for him is plain. he was pretending to be a damned catholic who didn't line up with the protestant and lutheran, and calvinist churches in Germany.

Hellfire boy they would have voted for a donkey if someone had dressed it in yellow and shoved a papal hat on its head , and a crozier up the poor ass....

You mind your step when you take people's learned words and try to bend them to your own will,
that's a treacherous path youre stepping down.
There is something about you feels a little covert and subversive...

[Unfalsifiable]

Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ?

Aahaha! Beautiful! Now you really do sound like a papist! To be more specific: a papist reading the Bible . You can't accept that WORDS MEAN WHAT THEY MEAN!

How, boy, are you going to justify twisting Pastor Ezekiel's words from "HITLER WAS A ROMAN CATHOLIC" to "adolf hilter wasn't a real proper Catholic! only special Catholics are Catholics!!".

True Catholicism? You're an undercover papist dog, or a retard. Wouldn't be surprised to see you hopping into a car with papist Thomas Martin at the end of the day.

Still I am awaiting the Pastor's own words on this very discussion as that will be the end of it.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ?

Aahaha! Beautiful! Now you really do sound like a papist! To be more specific: a papist reading the Bible . You can't accept that WORDS MEAN WHAT THEY MEAN!

How, boy, are you going to justify twisting Pastor Ezekiel's words from "HITLER WAS A ROMAN CATHOLIC" to "adolf hilter wasn't a real proper Catholic! only special Catholics are Catholics!!".

True Catholicism? You're an undercover papist dog, or a retard. Wouldn't be surprised to see you hopping into a car with papist Thomas Martin at the end of the day.

Still I am awaiting the Pastor's own words on this very discussion as that will be the end of it.

Now, now, don't get your Unfalsies in a bunch, friend!

WOG is new to Landover, and only recently Saved©. He hasn't even had the opportunity to attend Landover Baptist University yet, and study True Christian™ History.

We're all on the same side, here . . . God's side. Right?

Let's let Pastor Ezekiel enlighten all of us about Hitler's love of the Roman Catholic Cult. As we ALL know, the RCC does include devil-worship at higher levels, up to and including the Antichrist Pope. Their pantheon of demons is so vast, it would not be difficult to envision Hitler (or Thomas Martian) adding a few to the list, and nobody noticing.

See, you're both right!

[Warrior of God]

Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ?

I need some help and clarification on this post and a response it brought about.
Someone, I don't know who, and I don't know if I am meant to, or am mean to be able to find out, attached a negative'ish attachment /comment to it , saying
I had suggested their was such a thing as a true Catholic.
I honestly can't see where I did , and really would like to understand where that is suggested.
I say this respectfully and in the context of maybe needing to open my eyes wider and learn.
Anyway I will highlight the parts where I express my opinion of catholics, as I am struggling to see where I say anything good about them.
The only way there can be a true catholic is in the sense they would be a true , through and through, unbeliever and idolator.
Surely the expression true catholic has to be a deep insult, as being a catholic is among the lowest of the low, so being a true one is even lower than a catholic's slime crawling belly.
A true catholic, would be nothing like being any kind of true Christian,
well it couldn't be, as the two things are opposite.

you're getting desperate in that corner you're talking yourself into...
If you want to learn study , you have shown you have no interest in listening.
So look it up and read.
Hard work and sound application is good for the soul...
try some, it may well help.

How dare you hide behind Pastor Ezekiel'swords, trying to use him as a screen behind which you can strut in your childish arrogance.

Pastor Ezekiel said Hitler was a Catholic, not a Christian...
That's just like saying Hitler was a pan-theist. The catholics do not believe in the Trye God so they're just another lump of satanspawn.
I am sure that the Pastor would have said it plain and called Hitler a papist unbeliever if he thought he needed to.
Saying he was a catholic is like saying Hitler was any kind of heretic or atheists faker.
The pastor was pointing out out Hitler was a backsliiding idolator who did not know the True God. I doubt the Pastor was making any claim that Hitler was legitimate in his religious beliefs , as you seem to be suggesting.

How dare you try to use the Pastor like some big stick that you can beat anyone who opposes you.
You should be ashamed boy.
You can't get your own way so you start throwing accusations of catholic affiliations about.
You seem very keen on the catholics being the centre of your world.

You watch out for your soul son. Your raging pride and arrogance just made you seek to take a pastor's words and twist them to your will...
I am horrified at your presumption and selfish seeking of advantage.

And why German Catholics would have voted for him is plain. he was pretending to be a damned catholic who didn't line up with the protestant and lutheran, and calvinist churches in Germany.

Hellfire boy they would have voted for a donkey if someone had dressed it in yellow and shoved a papal hat on its head , and a crozier up the poor ass....

You mind your step when you take people's learned words and try to bend them to your own will,
that's a treacherous path youre stepping down.
There is something about you feels a little covert and subversive...

so respectfully, if a Pastor or anyone else, can point out where that post exalted the catholic heathens as true believers in any way I would be deeply grateful .
Honestly, as far as i can see that post comes down heavy of catholic scum, and near the end their it makes it pretty plain they're not just self serving satanspawn, but pretty stupid and easilly led as well.
Thanks in advance for anyone who helps me out here...

[Warrior of God]

Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ?

Aahaha! Beautiful! Now you really do sound like a papist! To be more specific: a papist reading the Bible . You can't accept that WORDS MEAN WHAT THEY MEAN!

How, boy, are you going to justify twisting Pastor Ezekiel's words from "HITLER WAS A ROMAN CATHOLIC" to "adolf hilter wasn't a real proper Catholic! only special Catholics are Catholics!!".

True Catholicism? You're an undercover papist dog, or a retard. Wouldn't be surprised to see you hopping into a car with papist Thomas Martin at the end of the day.

Still I am awaiting the Pastor's own words on this very discussion as that will be the end of it.

I think, with respect, you need to calm down.
Those words you're crediting to me are lies son.
They stem from your heart, your soul, your mouth,
not mine.
Where I come from you wouldn't be doing that,
and certainly not twice over.
I didn't say the things you are crediting to me,
you are falsifying my words in the name of your own pride.
You seem to be setting yourself and your pride above God's ways and his word.
As God is my witness, I am praying for you son ,
praying hard.



Exodus 23:1
Thou shalt not raise a false report: put not thine hand with the wicked to be an unrighteous witness.

Proverbs 12:17
He that speaketh truth sheweth forth righteousness: but a false witness deceit.

Maybe a little look through the Commandments might help

Exodus 20:16
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

[Unfalsifiable]

Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ?

WOG is new to Landover, and only recently Saved©. He hasn't even had the opportunity to attend Landover Baptist University yet, and study True Christian™ History.

Are you sure he is saved? It doesn't say it by his name, and even the women type more legibly then he does. I'm not seeing the hallmarks of a Saved True Christian anywhere.

And as for you, "WOG" by suggesting Hitler himself was not a Catholic, despite him being a Catholic, and Pastor Ezekiel saying he is a Catholic, you've suggested something along the lines of there being a type of "true Catholicism" as if there is an honourable, above-the-table form of Catholicism. Women read this forum, boy. Think before you type, or even enter posts like this. The reason you said it was because you found yourself disagreeing with the Pastor.

That is why you received negative feedback.