[Didymus Much]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

You are mean and horrifyingly intolerent. How dare you insult other people? Seems satan is YOUR subtle fetish.

Hi, and welcome to Landover!

If you'd use the "Quote" button (at the bottom right of each post), it would be clear just whom you're attempting to harangue.

Thanks!

[queerfreddy]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

Heres the thing:

If you where trying to prove something, you need to cite more than one source. Thats why jury's have multiple people, and why research will draw from several pieces of work. The bible obviously confirms its own belief that god exists, because it was "written" by god. But just because one being deems something as being true doesnt mean that they are right. For example, lets say a crazy dude wrote the bible (not going to be a popular idea around here but what are ya gonna do) just because that crazy person says that the bible is true doesnt mean it is. Essentially the point is that AN ARGUMENT CANNOT BE ITS EVIDENCE. it just doesn't work that way. Im not going to change anyones mind on this forum. but piffle it.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

Heres the thing:

If you where trying to prove something, you need to cite more than one source. Thats why jury's have multiple people, and why research will draw from several pieces of work. The bible obviously confirms its own belief that god exists, because it was "written" by god. But just because one being deems something as being true doesnt mean that they are right. For example, lets say a crazy dude wrote the bible (not going to be a popular idea around here but what are ya gonna do) just because that crazy person says that the bible is true doesnt mean it is. Essentially the point is that AN ARGUMENT CANNOT BE ITS EVIDENCE. it just doesn't work that way. Im not going to change anyones mind on this forum. but piffle it.

That doesn't make any sense, dear. Who can be more right than God? He doesn't need a cheerleading squad to echo Him.

[Marko Loimaan-Aho]

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If I make a vessel of clay, do I need it to prove my own existance?

No, I think not.

Atheists are so stupid that they do not understand this much logic.

[Attila's Wife]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

Heres the thing:

If you where trying to prove something, you need to cite more than one source. Thats why jury's have multiple people

You are very, very confused, aren't you? The part in bold has absolutely nothing to do with citing more than one source. It has to do with more than one person evaluating the evidence.

Juries (note the plural form) have more than one person so that a variety of people can decide on the reliability of the evidence and come to a verdict, either unanimously or by a majority. And they may fail to agree. BUT there may only be a single piece of evidence to evaluate, i.e. one source being cited.

[MitzaLizalor]

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Here's the thing:

research will draw from several pieces of work.

Research is the process by which those pieces of work are originated. Quoting them is just that. A quote.

A quote is not research.

[Scorch]

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This will probably be off-topic, but since I can't create my own threads, I figured I should find an existing one and since this section does talk about science, I think it should be suited for my question.

I've always been curious about the whole Tree of Knowledge thing. The idea is, that Adam ate from the tree and was banished from Eden. However, what I do not understand is, what exactly did he learn?

Sometimes it's mentioned that eating from the tree, allowed Adam to learn about good and evil, though I am not 100% sure if that's true.

Either way, can someone please enlighten me, what kind of knowledge did the tree of knowledge contain?

[MitzaLizalor]

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This will probably be off-topic, but since I can't create my own threads, I figured I should find an existing one and since this section does talk about science, I think it should be suited for my question.

I've always been curious about the whole Tree of Knowledge thing. The idea is, that Adam ate from the tree and was banished from Eden. However, what I do not understand is, what exactly did he learn?

Sometimes it's mentioned that eating from the tree, allowed Adam to learn about good and evil, though I am not 100% sure if that's true.

Either way, can someone please enlighten me, what kind of knowledge did the tree of knowledge contain?

Thank you for your interesting question. We don't get many people from Godless Africa and I am happy to post the Scripture for you.

GENESIS 2
16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
3 4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil...
22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
KJV .. look up

[Scorch]

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Actually, I am from the jungles of africa. My boyfriend is a monkey.
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Anyway, thank you for the answer, but the bible version doesn't really answer it. It grants a rather vague answer.

Isn't there a clearer answer?

(wow, I do like to say "answer" a lot)

Then again, if we do go by the scripture, then Adam learned to tell the difference between good and evil. But isn't that a good thing? To be able to tell when you're doing something evil or good?

[MitzaLizalor]

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Actually, I am from the jungles of africa. My boyfriend is a monkey.
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Anyway, thank you for the answer, but the bible version doesn't really answer it. It grants a rather vague answer.

Isn't there a clearer answer?

(wow, I do like to say "answer" a lot)

Then again, if we do go by the scripture, then Adam learned to tell the difference between good and evil. But isn't that a good thing? To be able to tell when you're doing something evil or good?

No.

[Scorch]

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Why not?

[Didymus Much]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

Why not?

God didn't want it to happen, duh.

You're overthinking this Christianity stuff. It doesn't help.

[Scorch]

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What, was god afraid of something?

I do wonder, however, if it's actually possible to over-think something like this? I mean, Christianity is one of the largest religions on Earth, it has influence much of the Western civilization in various aspects of life. Logic dictates, that something so influential should be ripped apart again and again in our desire to understand it.

It is this desire to know and the need for answers that has resulted in religion giving way to logical thinking and science.

However, I am getting sidetracked. It's just that any sort of knowledge fascinates me. And even if that knowledge comes from ancient legends, I can't help but daydream a little about what kind of knowledge was hidden in the tree of knowledge for god to banish us from Eden just because Adam took a single bite.

[Didymus Much]

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...I can't help but daydream a little about what kind of knowledge was hidden in the tree of knowledge for god to banish us from Eden just because Adam took a single bite.

Christianity does not have the answer you're looking for, because such knowledge is not necessary for your salvation.

Go bother the Gnostics, k?

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

The fact that we are no longer in Eden is proof enough for me.