[Pastor Ezekiel]

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There is no logical reason why the Bible is not the perfect Word of God. After all, even fallible humans can get things right some of the time, especially if they are supervised by Someone who is infallible.

Christians do not claim that the humans who penned the books of the Bible were always accurate in everything they said or did. We simply believe that the Bible is right when it claims that God guided these men in their task of writing Scripture, in such a way that the result is an infallible book. The apostle Peter undoubtedly said some foolish things during his lifetime, but God did not allow him to clutter up the Bible with any of those blunders.

And yes,2 Timothy 3:16 contains the classic claim that the Bible was produced by God, not just men:

All Scripture is inspired by God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

One standard explanation of the concept of "inspiration" is given by Ryrie:

God's superintendence of the human authors so that, using their own individual personalities, they composed and recorded without error His revelation to man in the words of the original autographs. (Charles Ryrie, A Survey of Bible Doctrine (Chicago: Moody Press, 1972), p. 38)

We do not know exactly how God accomplished His purpose of providing a totally accurate Bible. But 2 Peter 1:21 gives some insight:

No prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.

The word "moved" in this verse is also used in Acts 27:15 to describe the way a great storm blew the apostle Paul's ship off course across the Mediterranean. The people on board could spend the time as they chose (either bailing or wailing!), but the storm determined their destination of Malta. Similarly, God guided the writers of Scripture to produce exactly the message He wanted.

And the Bible clearly tells us that those who doubt it it the Holy Word of God are doomed to hellfire.

Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Matthew 4:4 Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all

You mary worshiping catlicks are guilty of violating nearly every commandment of God. Jesus has reserved a special place in hell for you.

And yes, you can be of further service to me. Stop praying to Jesus' mommy and accept Christ as your Saviour©. Renounce satan and the nazi antichrist you serve in Rome, and join the largest Baptist Church in the world: Landover Baptist Church. Can you do that, jeanie?

[Bub.]

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Please prove that. The Bible clearly states that it was written by God. Go ahead and disprove that. We'll wait.

My friend, please calm down.

2 Timothy 3:16 (King James Version)


All scripture is given
by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness

If you have any more question about theology, the bible, or your relational problems, just call me, my friend, and I'll be pleased to answer to you


Your guttural friend,

Bub

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

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But i want real proof that He is real. Even if i believe He is there, i still want proof. Because that was my question. I want hardcore proof.



I don't have to pick one or the other, it's my personal opinion to believe in both. I don't neccesarily believe in the Bible anyways, but i believe in God, that's for sure.



You didn't prove to me anything, but we can still believe. Religion was created only to explain the unexplainable, like the beginning of life, anyways.

So you're saying that you believe in God, but only those things that make you feel good. Not the literal truth of the Bible, just whatever you think God is, then He is. Are your feet warm yet?

[shaunasaurus]

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Ok, I'll bite....


No one, God always has been and always will be.

But i want real proof that He is real. Even if i believe He is there, i still want proof. Because that was my question. I want hardcore proof.

Pick one or the other! The Bible says that the earth is 6,000 years old. Evolutionary "theory" states that it is a billion gajillion years old.

I don't have to pick one or the other, it's my personal opinion to believe in both. I don't neccesarily believe in the Bible anyways, but i believe in God, that's for sure.

We can believe the One who was there, can we not? And, as I already proved, He always has been and always will be (hence He is called the Alpha and the Omega)

You didn't prove to me anything, but we can still believe. Religion was created only to explain the unexplainable, like the beginning of life, anyways.

[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

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Ok, I'll bite....

Then who created God.

No one, God always has been and always will be.

Of course, i beleive in him, but i also beleive in the evolution theory (which a theory is an idea with proof).

Pick one or the other! The Bible says that the earth is 6,000 years old. Evolutionary "theory" states that it is a billion gajillion years old.

And isn't the "Big Bang Theory" a THEORY? But a lot of people agree and disagree with that, so i'm leaving you to your own beliefs on that one.
But really, neither of us could actually possibly KNOW how life began, who started it, and who created the being that started it.

We can believe the One who was there, can we not? And, as I already proved, He always has been and always will be (hence He is called the Alpha and the Omega)

[shaunasaurus]

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Miss Chu, let me explain something to you pseudo-scientific types. You probably believe the universe was created in a 'Big Bang' from a singularity. If you do, you must realize that the energies and temperatures required for that nonsense to have happened would have been very energetic and millions of degrees, rendering the entire universe sterile. Sterile means no life, no complex molecules, no amino acids. Sterile. GOD is the only way life could have been introduced into a sterile universe. It is a scientific certainty.

Then who created God.

Of course, i beleive in him, but i also beleive in the evolution theory (which a theory is an idea with proof). And isn't the "Big Bang Theory" a THEORY? But a lot of people agree and disagree with that, so i'm leaving you to your own beliefs on that one.
But really, neither of us could actually possibly KNOW how life began, who started it, and who created the being that started it.

An answer of "He just was there" or "He just IS" or anything like it isn't a logical answer either.

Nobody will really ever know.

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

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you cant prove God exists.

Of course I can. He said He created us and here we are.

you cant. and no matter how many bible verses you give me, you still cant convince me that he exists.

You can't convince me that chinks exist. they are just Japs with odd Epicanthic folds.

and its true that we cant prove he doesnt exist, but the evolution theory is WAY more accurate than "some guy came along and created the entire universe. the end"

Miss Chu, let me explain something to you pseudo-scientific types. You probably believe the universe was created in a 'Big Bang' from a singularity. If you do, you must realize that the energies and temperatures required for that nonsense to have happened would have been very energetic and millions of degrees, rendering the entire universe sterile. Sterile means no life, no complex molecules, no amino acids. Sterile. GOD is the only way life could have been introduced into a sterile universe. It is a scientific certainty.

[mollychu]

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Or Chinese!

like Jesus Hong?

[shaunasaurus]

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So you're saying that cause we cannot prove God. (even though we can)
No matter if you cannot disprove God (which you can't) you can still make a statement stating He doesn't exist?

You people never learned the meaning of the word hypocrite, did you?

You came to our forum, claiming our beliefs are wrong.
You prove your accusations.

The nerve on these harlots.



Millions of "women scientists"?
"Proven" scientifically?

Statistics isn't your strong side, is it?

I never once said he didn't exist, but i did say he MIGHT not, and he MAY exist to. Nobody can prove his existance.
I certainly beleive there is a higher-being though.
But then again, you can't litereally PROVE it. But you can still beleive. That's why i'm saying it's all BELIEF. I never said you people were WRONG, like you tell anyone who thinks different.

How can you prove God exists. Prove it to me, then, if you're so ABLE to prove it.
And i know i can't prove God doesn't exist, but i can't prove he DOES either. God might even be a she! Or an IT! Or black! Or Muslim! Or Jewish! Or Chinese!
There's many possibilities because you've NEVER seen him/her/it for yourself.

And yes i'm sure there is millions of women scientists, just as many men scientists to. I'm only estimating.

[mollychu]

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So you're saying that cause we cannot prove God. (even though we can)

you cant prove God exists.


you cant. and no matter how many bible verses you give me, you still cant convince me that he exists.


and its true that we cant prove he doesnt exist, but the evolution theory is WAY more accurate than "some guy came along and created the entire universe. the end"

[SalvationSeeker]

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So you're saying that cause we cannot prove God. (even though we can)
No matter if you cannot disprove God (which you can't) you can still make a statement stating He doesn't exist?

You people never learned the meaning of the word hypocrite, did you?

You came to our forum, claiming our beliefs are wrong.
You prove your accusations.

The nerve on these harlots.

So tell me, have you ever invented something or proven something scientifically like millions of women scientists have?

Millions of "women scientists"?
"Proven" scientifically?

Statistics isn't your strong side, is it?

[shaunasaurus]

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Exactly, good Pastor.

Not to mention, how could some dimwitted little woman ever know that?
Do you claim you were there when He wrote it, molly?

This is what happens when feminazism is allowed to run rampant through society, the women get all uppity and lose track of their place in life.

Yes i know that once a boy hits puberty that their brain might go straight to their balls, but that doesn't make them smarter than women. Having a penis doesn't make you neccesarily smarter than a woman.

So tell me, have you ever invented something or proven something scientifically like millions of women scientists have?

Nope.

You've only proven ...oh wait, you haven't proven one thing at all. You're just trying to shove your beleifs down my throat.

And do YOU claim you were there when he wrote it? How do you even know he exists? Tell me that! Please! I'd love to know! I want proof!

[shaunasaurus]

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Please prove that. The Bible clearly states that it was written by God. Go ahead and disprove that. We'll wait.

Please prove that God exists. Go ahead and prove that.

I'll wait, and so will over half of the world.

[mollychu]

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Please prove that. The Bible clearly states that it was written by God. Go ahead and disprove that. We'll wait.

why dont you prove that it was written by God?



the book of Job was written by Job, not God.

the book oh John was written by, gasp, John!

and so on

[SalvationSeeker]

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Please prove that. The Bible clearly states that it was written by God. Go ahead and disprove that. We'll wait.

Exactly, good Pastor.

Not to mention, how could some dimwitted little woman ever know that?
Do you claim you were there when He wrote it, molly?

This is what happens when feminazism is allowed to run rampant through society, the women get all uppity and lose track of their place in life.