[Kengen Yo]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

I am sorry, but the sun is much further than that. Have you ever thought that it could be farther away, but also bigger and hotter than you make it out to be? What makes you think that you, a pastor, has over scientists (not just non-christian scientists mind you, but christian ones as well) that have dedicated parts of their lives to researching this?

[GOD=life]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

I am sorry, but the sun is much further than that.

And your proof is... ?

The pastor provided scientific evidence and formulas to back up his position.

Where is your proof?

[Alsnoy]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

And your proof is... ?

The pastor provided scientific evidence and formulas to back up his position.

Where is your proof?

what the pastor said wasn't scientific at all he just used some numbers and exations! 1 counter argument what to CO2 ? just hilarious you guys believe that.

The mean distance of the Sun from the Earth is approximately 149.6 million kilometers (1 AU) At this average distance. light travels from the Sun to the earth in about 8 minutes 19 seconds

quick qalqulation :
499seconds * c(speed of light= 299,792,458m/s) =
149596436542 meters or 150million kilometers

much easier and correct

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

The mean distance of the Sun from the Earth is approximately 149.6 million kilometers (1 AU) At this average distance. light travels from the Sun to the earth in about 8 minutes 19 seconds

quick qalqulation :
499seconds * c(speed of light= 299,792,458m/s) =
149596436542 meters or 150million kilometers

much easier and correct

So you know the sun is 159.6 million kilometers away because it takes light 8 minutes and 19 seconds to travel the distance, and you know that the light 8 minutes and 19 seconds to travel the distance because the sun is 159.6 million kilometers away -- am I understanding you correctly?

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

I am sorry, but the sun is much further than that. Have you ever thought that it could be farther away, but also bigger and hotter than you make it out to be?

If the sun were hotter, it would glow with a different color, because the peak wavelength would be shorter. That's from Wein's displacement law.

Please read the whole thread before making redundant comments. Your question has already been answered several times.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[praisescience]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Hey there. You want some proof that your bullshit theory is wrong. Here we go:

The speed of light is assumed constant-The speed of light (usually denoted c) is a physical constant. Its value is exactly 299,792,458 metres per second,[1][2] often approximated as 300,000 kilometres per second or 186,000 miles per second.

If you don't want to accept that then we can all happily agree that it travels pretty damn quickly. It takes about 8 minutes for the light from the sun to reach the earth. Using a very simple formula learned in high school, speed*time=distance.

In terms of miles using the speed of light and the time taken for the light to get to earth 186,000*8=14,880,000 miles.

Now if this doesn't wash with you morons then, if we assume that the sun is about 600 miles away then using the same formula but working out the speed of light

speed=600/8=75 mph There is no way light travels that slowly! I suggest you recalculate Pastor Dickhead...

[praisescience]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

In my haste to disprove you idiots I made a few mistakes in terms of units...

c= 299,792,458 metres per second,
8 minutes to reach earth 480 seconds
299792458*480=1439900380 KM

remove speed from the eq and we use your 600m as distance then we get 600/480=1.25 metres per second. A small child can run faster than that.

[Kengen Yo]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

If the sun were hotter, it would glow with a different color, because the peak wavelength would be shorter. That's from Wein's displacement law.

Please read the whole thread before making redundant comments. Your question has already been answered several times.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

Please state the law. And you did not answer my question about what makes you more qualified. Do not avoid the heart of my post.

[GOD=life]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

You cannot reach a conclusion based on unproven premises.

1. Light travels at speed X (unproven)
2. Light takes Y minutes to reach the earth (unproven)
3. Thus: the sun is at distance Z.

[praisescience]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

All of the stuff pastor anus uses isn't proven either. He just makes claims. Still, we all know that light travels fast. Regardless of numbers it's faster than 1.25 metres per second.

[quests]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

If you don't want to accept that then we can all happily agree that it travels pretty damn quickly. It takes about 8 minutes for the light from the sun to reach the earth. Using a very simple formula learned in high school, speed*time=distance.

In terms of miles using the speed of light and the time taken for the light to get to earth 186,000*8=14,880,000 miles.

Now if this doesn't wash with you mormons then, if we assume that the sun is about 600 miles away then using the same formula but working out the speed of light

speed=600/8=75 mph There is no way light travels that slowly! I suggest you recalculate Pastor Dickhead...

If we all happily agree that it travels damn quickly without a given specific number, where do you take your 8 minutes from?

[Aristotle]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Hey there. You want some proof that your bullshit theory is wrong. Here we go:

The speed of light is assumed constant-The speed of light (usually denoted c) is a physical constant. Its value is exactly 299,792,458 metres per second,[1][2] often approximated as 300,000 kilometres per second or 186,000 miles per second.

If you don't want to accept that then we can all happily agree that it travels pretty damn quickly. It takes about 8 minutes for the light from the sun to reach the earth. Using a very simple formula learned in high school, speed*time=distance.

In terms of miles using the speed of light and the time taken for the light to get to earth 186,000*8=14,880,000 miles.

Now if this doesn't wash with you mormons then, if we assume that the sun is about 600 miles away then using the same formula but working out the speed of light

speed=600/8=75 mph There is no way light travels that slowly! I suggest you recalculate Pastor Dickhead...

I get my sunlight right away. The sun is shining as soon as it rises in the East, not eight minutes later.

By the way, this is a Christian website. Please watch your language.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

It takes about 8 minutes for the light from the sun to reach the earth.

How do you know how long it takes for light from the sun to reach the Earth?

Now if this doesn't wash with you mormons then, if we assume that the sun is about 600 miles away then using the same formula but working out the speed of light

We did not assume anything about the distance of the sun from the Earth. We started with the observations and worked forward according to established scientific laws.

speed=600/8=75 mph There is no way light travels that slowly! I suggest you recalculate Pastor Dickhead...

I agree that light does not travel that slowly, and that's why I dispute your assertion that light spends a leisurely 8 minutes getting here.

And if you had read the whole thread before making your pointless post, maybe you wouldn't have stuck your foot so far into your mouth.

Please state the law.

If you had paid attention when you read the original post in this thread, you should have been able to infer the law from where I applied it. If you don't have the high school math ability to do that, then I'm not sure that restating it here would help you.

Anyway, Wein's Displacement Law states that the wavelength distribution peaks at a value that is inversely proportional to the temperature:


λ(max) = (2.9 * 10^-3) / T

And you did not answer my question about what makes you more qualified. Do not avoid the heart of my post.

Ideas should be evaluated on their own merits, not based on whatever formal qualifications an idea's presenter might or might not have. If you insist otherwise, then you are engaging in the logical fallacy known as "Argument ad Hominem" -- I'm not a professional scientist, therefore my scientific conclusions are automatically invalid. I suppose doing so anyway makes it much easier for you. You don't have to do the hard work of thinking for yourself if can dismiss my work out of hand without making an effort to understand it.

If THAT was the heart of your post, then your post had no heart.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

remove speed from the eq and we use your 600m as distance then we get 600/480=1.25 metres per second. A small child can run faster than that.

Where did anyone say that the sun was 600 METERS away? I think it's about time for you to put down your crackpipe, friend.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Kengen Yo]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

I get my sunlight right away. The sun is shining as soon as it rises in the East, not eight minutes later.

By the way, this is a Christian website. Please watch your language.

Oh he cannot say damn but one of your pastors can say ass? Does that mean the more spiritual you are the more you can swear?