[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

You didn't answer my question about the moon. How far away is it etc? Please answer this as I feel it would contradict your 'facts' about the suns distance. I would hate for the people at nasa to be put out of a job because you are clearly so unbelivably smart.

I don't know how far away it is. I haven't calculated the distance to the moon yet, and I can't do it instantly on command. The moon isn't even out right now. I could let Google do my thinking for me like some people (you) do, but I prefer empirical methods. That's what science is, not refuting mathematical proofs with sarcasm and name-calling. Oh, but YOU are a "man of science" (your words).

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[praisescience]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

I am a mathematician, not a physicist. But neither are you! You are a man of God who uses science, gets the wrong results and then convinces a group of narrow minded people that his word is gospel! Good luck with your empirical work. The only people you will be able to convince are your small group of followers! I use google because I don't need to calculate these things, they have already been done. You are an idiot. You may have slapped a few formulae down, a few numbers and hey presto, but irrespective they are wrong. You massive dick.

[praisescience]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Woah, guys I've just worked out that the earth is only 25 miles away from from the Moon.

Using Pastor Assholes formula of Bullshit:

The temperature on the equator is 47K and I'm wearing red trousers, there are two consonants in the words red, and divide 47 by two you get approximately 25miles. Praise Jesus, as he has helped me work this out. God be with you.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

I am a mathematician, not a physicist. But neither are you! You are a man of God who uses science, gets the wrong results and then convinces a group of narrow minded people that his word is gospel! Good luck with your empirical work. The only people you will be able to convince are your small group of followers! I use google because I don't need to calculate these things, they have already been done. You are an idiot. You may have slapped a few formulae down, a few numbers and hey presto, but irrespective they are wrong. You massive dick.

How do you know my results are wrong? Just because they disagree with what you have been told to believe?

If you are a mathematician, then answer me this: If we have a right triangle where Θ is 53.6° and the adjacent side is 4052.2, then what is the length of the opposite side?

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[reneding]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

pastor billy ... I think you are the most ignorant person in the world

[praisescience]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

792 round about. If your working was so well founded, why are you the first person to have done it. Why aren't people agreeing with you. You are using the maths in the wrong context and getting the wrong result.

[GOD=life]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

and I can't do it instantly on command

Careful pastor, it always causes atheists to throw a fit when Christians don't do act like the little puppies they kick for fun...

[GOD=life]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

pastor billy ... I think you are the most ignorant person in the world

I think I speak on behalf of all of the 15000+ members of this forum when I say that no one cares what you think. You come here uninvited, unsaved and uneducated. Learn some manners first, child.

[praisescience]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

You're all comletely deluded. I wonder why your Pastor is the only guy to think of this. If god existed, he wouldn't have created such an asshole.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

pastor billy ... I think you are the most ignorant person in the world

Why, because I think for myself instead of automatically and uncritically accepting conventional wisdom?

792 round about.

YOU'RE a MATHEMATICIAN?


Not even close. Does tan(Θ) = opposite / adjacent mean anything to you?

tan(53.6) = Opposite / 4052.2
1.356 = Opposite / 4052.2
Opposite = 5494.8

SOMEBODY (you) really ought to read this whole thread rather than continue to make himself look more and more foolish.

If your working was so well founded, why are you the first person to have done it.

Is it automatically false because it's new?

Why aren't people agreeing with you.

Is truth determined by majority rule?

You are using the maths in the wrong context and getting the wrong result.

So you keep asserting, but a foul-mouthed kid on the internet screaming "YOU'RE WRONG BECAUSE I WAS TOLD TO BELIEVE OTHERWISE" and calling names doesn't disprove anything. Show me where I'm wrong.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Jamesy]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Wein's Displacement Law:
Peak Wavelength in meters = displacement constant / temperature in Kelvin

Okay.

Yellow light has a wavelength between 570nm and 580nm, so we'll solve for 575nm. Since we are working with nanometers rather than meters, we'll simplify the math by multiplying the displacement constant by 10^9.

575 = 2897768.5/T
575 * T = 2897768.5
T = 2897768.5/575
T = 5039.6° K (8611.6° F)

So the sun is about 5039.6° Kelvin.

The sun is roughly 13,600,000, You're doing it wrong because you've got the wrong value for the displacement constant. You really should check these things.

Now, the average temperature of the earth is 59° F, or about 288° K. The mean temperature gradient of the troposphere is 6° K/km, so let's solve for the distance.

d = (5039.6 - 288)/6
d = 791.9 km (491.1 miles)

No... d=(13.6m - 288 /6)
d= 13599712km ( 8 450 469 miles)

Besides, this is not how you work out how far away something is, you mong.

[GOD=life]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Btw, look up what "Poisoning the well" actually means. It is pre-emptive, which does not apply here. The pastor merely asked his accuser for actual proof instead of being referred to authority figures.

Why not tell the bees that according to science, it is aerodynamically impossible for them to fly

Also why not tell Einstein to forget about his theory of relativity because all the scientists at the time thought it was junk.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

The point of the trigonometry lesson was this.

I am at 36.4 N latitude. On noon on the equinox, the sun is directly over the equator due south of me. This means that me, the equator, and the sun form a right triangle, with the line between me and the equator forming the adjacent side, the line between the equator and the sun forming the opposite side, and the line between the sun and me forming the hypotenuse.

At noon on the equinox, the sun shines down into my well at an angle of 53.6° (Θ), and my well is 4052.2km from the equator. Applying the formula tan(Θ) = opposite / adjacent and solving for the opposite side, we see that the line between the sun and the equator is 5494.8km.

Now, how have I used math in the wrong context here?

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Jamesy]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

The point of the trigonometry lesson was this.

I am at 36.4 N latitude. On noon on the equinox, the sun is directly over the equator due south of me. This means that me, the equator, and the sun form a right triangle, with the line between me and the equator forming the adjacent side, the line between the equator and the sun forming the opposite side, and the line between the sun and me forming the hypotenuse.

At noon on the equinox, the sun shines down into my well at an angle of 53.6° (Θ), and my well is 4052.2km from the equator. Applying the formula tan(Θ) = opposite / adjacent and solving for the opposite side, we see that the line between the sun and the equator is 5494.8km.

...I honestly don't know where to start...

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

The sun is roughly 13,600,000, You're doing it wrong because you've got the wrong value for the displacement constant. You really should check these things.

According to NASA,

The part of the sun that we see has a temperature of about 5500 degrees C (10,000 degrees F).

You really should check these things.

This is a long thread and a lot of ground has already been covered. Including your "objection".

Pastor Billy-Reuben