[Honeydew]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

You gauys - especially Pastor Billyy-Reuben - really need a reality check.
While I do agree that science has nothing on the glory of God, you guys really need to keep up and accept some things.
The fact that the we are in a helio-centered system just glorifies creation even more - that God can create such unfathomable things, with ease. Also, that the distances that are dealt with in space are so insane that they also surely prove the existence of a divine creator.
Not trying to offend, just trying to help you along so that yu're not considered bigotted.

[James Hutchins]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

That makes no sense at all.
Why would God use such tremendous distances? Just because He can? Please. He has better things to do than show off.

You think being realistic is bigoted? Are you really that much of a racist that anyone that does not think exactly like you is wrong?

[Thomas Hannah]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Hello,

I would like to start by saying. I am not religious. I feel that its only fair to be honest with your community. When I say I am not religious that means I dont subscribe to any religion on earth. I do believe in a higher power. I just have not been able to commit to a faith. I am a deep thinker and like to debate with many different people and mind sets. I would also like to state i have the utmost respect for religious people and I am not here to try and turn your faith or make fun of your beliefs. That is not the person I am. I believe in equal choice for every man woman and child.

On to the topic at hand.

I have done some research into what you say. Now it is knowen that the moon is 238857miles from the surface of earth. So i am slightly confused as why you would belive that the sun which is much further away from the earth than the moon would only be 500 miles?

We know that the Moon is this distance because we have been there and back. If it was the case that the sun was that close then the astronauts would have been evaporated just outside the orbit of earth no?

I also dont see what benefit the Sun being 500 miles away has to religion. It being millions of miles away does not deny the existence of God. I would argue the it endorses God as to create something of that kind of wonder could only be done by God.

Tell me what you think, I would be very happy to take criticism and vindication on this matter.

Kind regards,

Thomas Hannah

[Xuchilbara]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

HAHAHAH ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED? If the sun is only 500 miles away, we could build a bridge to it, fuck me you guys are stupid.

Also if the sun was only 500 miles away, how the fuck does Mercury, Venus and the moon all fit between the Earth and the sun, without colliding? And don't say thoes planets dont exist, because you can see the moon every night, and you know it comes between the sun and the earth though the solar eclipse, and the moon is far greater than 500 miles big.

I just crashed your logic with science a 8 year old could do.

So fuck you, stop being a fucking moron and get an education you redhead hicks

[James Hutchins]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Hello,

I would like to start by saying. I am not religious. I feel that its only fair to be honest with your community. When I say I am not religious that means I dont subscribe to any religion on earth. I do believe in a higher power. I just have not been able to commit to a faith. I am a deep thinker and like to debate with many different people and mind sets. I would also like to state i have the utmost respect for religious people and I am not here to try and turn your faith or make fun of your beliefs. That is not the person I am. I believe in equal choice for every man woman and child.

On to the topic at hand.

I have done some research into what you say. Now it is knowen that the moon is 238857miles from the surface of earth. So i am slightly confused as why you would belive that the sun which is much further away from the earth than the moon would only be 500 miles?

We know that the Moon is this distance because we have been there and back. If it was the case that the sun was that close then the astronauts would have been evaporated just outside the orbit of earth no?

I also dont see what benefit the Sun being 500 miles away has to religion. It being millions of miles away does not deny the existence of God. I would argue the it endorses God as to create something of that kind of wonder could only be done by God.

Tell me what you think, I would be very happy to take criticism and vindication on this matter.

Kind regards,

Thomas Hannah

Thanks for letting us know you hate God. At least you appear to be honest though misguided.

Tell me Thomas, how did you come up with that distance? Did you measure it with a yard stick? Or did some secular 'scientist' theorize (guess actually) how far it is and you simply plagiarized his bad information?

[Thomas Hannah]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

@Xuchilbara

I find your response to someone's view on a topic to be very uneducated. You were correct in one part of your comment. In that your response was what you could expect from an eight year old. I would say the same to you in relation to getting an education but that in itself is immature. Please try to construct a beneficial response in future.

Kind regards,

Thomas Hannah

[James Hutchins]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

HAHAHAH ARE YOU piffleING RETARDED? If the sun is only 500 miles away, we could build a bridge to it, piffle me you guys are stupid.

A few problems here. First, it is impossible to penetrate the firmament. Secondly, it is a vertical trip, no elevator is that tall nor any free swinging bridge that long. Try again, retard.

Also if the sun was only 500 miles away, how the piffle does Mercury, Venus and the moon all fit between the Earth and the sun, without colliding? And don't say thoes planets dont exist, because you can see the moon every night, and you know it comes between the sun and the earth though the solar eclipse, and the moon is far greater than 500 miles big.

I just crashed your logic with science a 8 year old could do.

They do not collide due to Gods Machinical Order.
You really need to read more of your Bible and other spiritual literature. You come off looking like quite the Godot.

So piffle you, stop being a piffleing mormon and get an education you redhead hicks

Nice mouth. You kiss yrour grandma with that tounge?
Also, we are Christians, not mormons, you moron. Finally, none of us are readheaded gingers.

[Xuchilbara]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

@Xuchilbara

I find your response to someone's view on a topic to be very uneducated. You were correct in one part of your comment. In that your response was what you could expect from an eight year old. I would say the same to you in relation to getting an education but that in itself is immature. Please try to construct a beneficial response in future.

Kind regards,

Thomas Hannah

Ok let me explain this in a way an idiot like you, MIGHT understand, all the planets of our solar systems rotate around the sun.

You're saying the gap between the Earth and The Sun is 500 miles right?

Well the Moon, Mercury and Venus are all easily larger than 500miles wide, so when these planets pass each other when they rotate around the sun, how come theres never been a collision, because I would really like to know how venus can fit in a 500 mile gap.

Sorry, but I think God lied to you, or you've been smoking some awesome crack

[Thomas Hannah]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

@James Hutchins

I am sorry that you feel I hate God. I dont but you are entitled to your opinion.

In relation to the distance from the earth's surface. I have posted a link below where you can work it out for yourself.

http://btc.montana.edu/ceres/Worlds/earthmoon.htm

Kind regards,

Thomas Hannah

[Thomas Hannah]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

@Xuchilbara

I am sorry to find that you are far less clever than first imagined. At first I found you to just be rude. I dont think the sun is 500 miles away. I know that it is millions. it speaks volumes about you not being able to follow a conversation.

I hope you find some smarts before posting your rude dribble on-line. I think you need you to spend sometime educating yourself.

Good luck

Kind regards,

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

HAHAHAH ARE YOU piffleING RETARDED? If the sun is only 500 miles away, we could build a bridge to it, piffle me you guys are stupid.

Also if the sun was only 500 miles away, how the piffle does Mercury, Venus and the moon all fit between the Earth and the sun, without colliding? And don't say thoes planets dont exist, because you can see the moon every night, and you know it comes between the sun and the earth though the solar eclipse, and the moon is far greater than 500 miles big.

I just crashed your logic with science a 8 year old could do.

So piffle you, stop being a piffleing mormon and get an education you redhead hicks

Of course Mercury and Venus exist. I am an amateur astronomer and I have seen them. Mercury, Venus and the Moon are all on circular orbits around the Earth. Their paths do not cross so why would they collide??

Why do you type 'piffle' instead of the nasty word you really mean? God can hear your thoughts and he hears the word you say in your head. Your childish wordplay will not fool God.

[James Hutchins]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

@James Hutchins

I am sorry that you feel I hate God. I dont but you are entitled to your opinion.

In relation to the distance from the earth's surface. I have posted a link below where you can work it out for yourself.

http://btc.montana.edu/ceres/Worlds/earthmoon.htm

Kind regards,

Thomas Hannah

You said you do not beleive in God. So you must hate Him. You make Him cry. :cying:

Now Thomas, do you really think we are that gullible? First off, my JesOS Ver 7.21 anti virus software detected a virus in the website you sent me to, not very nice.

Secondly, after parsing the page and removing the offing code, I found a lot of malarkey. Really, you want people to base calculation s based on photoshopped images? Do you really think these lines|| are a foot apart?

You do realize the moon is not very big, probably no larger than a football field and no more than about 200 miles from Earth, don't you.

You see Thomas, when God created the Heavens, he told His scribes some critical data so we would understand. He told us the Sun was about 500 miles away and that the moon was a lot closer.

[Thomas Hannah]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

@James Hutchins

I am sorry if that site had a virus. I did not check it for that and you have my utmost sincere apology if that is correct.

I am interested to see your documentation supporting this text from which God told us the distance between the Sun and Earth.

I am also baffled as when watching the moon landing you can clearly see that it is far larger than a football pitch.

I dont understand why you seem to be hostile to myself. I mean you no harm or grief, just debate.

Kind regards,

Thomas Hannah

[James Hutchins]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

I have re-arranged some of your post below to simplify my response. No mis-direction intended.

@James Hutchins

I am sorry if that site had a virus. I did not check it for that and you have my utmost sincere apology if that is correct.

I dont understand why you seem to be hostile to myself. I mean you no harm or grief, just debate.

You do not think attacking innocent baby Jesus, the cornerstone of my entire families life caused no harm? Attempting to infect my computer with a virus is not a problem?
You think I should be glad you did these things? Being a True Christian™ has enabled me to move on.

I am interested to see your documentation supporting this text from which God told us the distance between the Sun and Earth.

The KJV 1611 Edition. An online version can be found Here.

I am also baffled as when watching the moon landing you can clearly see that it is far larger than a football pitch.

Kind regards,

Thomas Hannah

You do understand, the 'moon landing' was a college prank/thesis for Spielberg, don't you? Have you ever looked carefully at the original images? Seen the wrong shadows? The waving flag, the microphone boom hanging down? My favorite of all was the one of the guys in the rover and in the corner, there is a stage hand sitting on a crate, eating his lunch. All done on a sound stage in Arizona.

[Hydros]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Well I must congratulate you guys on one thing at least, if it wasn't for this completely ridiculous analogy of the sun being 500 miles away then i'd have never been lead to this site.

YOU GUYS HAVE BECOME INTERNET VIRAL!!!! Well done!

Don't worry, ban me or whatever I won't be around for long, and I don't have much to add to this convo that I'm sure a lot of people haven't already added through the pages of this thread.

Just a few things...

The moon landing was real, all of the 'conspiracies' you have mentioned have been debunked- and were nothing more than ignorance to how physics and astronomy actually work (the flag waving for example).

Secondly i've noticed one of the smileys you have on here is how very, very mature of you.

I honestly don't know if some of you are agreeing with this bullshit purely to troll and get people like me wound up enough to join your forum and rant but come on guys... REALLY???!?!?

It takes one type of leap of faith believing in a deity (for which I can't understand anyway) But its a WHOLE NEXT LEVEL of stupidity to have a leap of faith big enough to believe that our local star is 500 MILES AWAY.

Do you understand how hot the sun is?? Do you understand how big solar flares are?? Don't let the first poster in this thread fool you with all his number crunching and so called 'science', it's not. It's the scribblings of a mad man.

I can think of a million reasons why it is IMPOSSIBLE to make the assumption that the sun is 500 miles away... i'm not gong to go into any of them, for 3 reasons, a) you've probably already been told them before b) even if i did tell you, 99% of you wouldn't listen and c) IT'S ALL AVAILABLE TO READ ABOUT YOURSELVES. (the internet is a wonderful thing )

There are a lot of you out there who will blindly follow the teachings of these nut cases you call pastors, please, please do me a favor and try thinking for yourselves for a bit.... I mean... does it really seem logical to you that the sun is only 500 miles away? Do you have any idea how big the sun is? If the moon is 238857 miles away and significantly smaller than the sun (and i'm sure even the most ignorant amongst you will agree, and the sun is only 500 miles away can you not see the problem here? The sun should cover the entire viewable horizon and completely engulf the sky!! Not to mention completely wipe out any form of life. You wouldn't even be here in the first place if the sun was that close!!

Im rambling now, and I didn't want to get into the many many many reasons why 500 miles is ridiculous so il try and stop myself...

Just please...THINK.

Capisce??