[Hydros]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Sorry for calling you a prat, although you personally may not have attempted to insult me, I wish your some of your colleagues would show the same respect.

I don't understand what your issue with a day being a rotation of the earth. A month being a full circuit of the moon around the earth and a year being a whole circuit of the earth around the sun!

Why is that such a hard concept to grasp? And why refute all the proven science?

[Alicia Nowhere]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Why we just can understand the intelligent way that God created all things?? I mean, thats why God gave scientist the information to understan the creations and to explain things, that why God gave the knowledge to the Pastors to interpret the bible and to help us live a good life!!

Also, we are not sure even if the bible is right translated, remember that was written in a death language.

So, just live and let people live!

By the way... I believe in science as a way to understand Gods creation.

[James Hutchins]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Sorry for calling you a prat, although you personally may not have attempted to insult me, I wish your some of your colleagues would show the same respect.

I don't understand what your issue with a day being a rotation of the earth. A month being a full circuit of the moon around the earth and a year being a whole circuit of the earth around the sun!

Why is that such a hard concept to grasp? And why refute all the proven science?

Why do you refuse to accept Gods word. What do you think God would gain by lying? Why do you hate him so feverently?

[Hydros]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Why we just can understand the intelligent way that God created all things?? I mean, thats why God gave scientist the information to understan the creations and to explain things, that why God gave the knowledge to the Pastors to interpret the bible and to help us live a good life!!

Also, we are not sure even if the bible is right translated, remember that was written in a death language.

So, just live and let people live!

By the way... I believe in science as a way to understand Gods creation.

Unfortunately I see that as the easy way out, you can't have your cake and eat it.

You either believe it was the work of god, or the work of nature itself.

[Hydros]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Why do you refuse to accept Gods word. What do you think God would gain by lying? Why do you hate him so feverently?

Have you not listened to a word ive said? I dont hate god! I can't hate something I don't believe to exist! I feel the world is explainable without the need for a supernatural deity to explain it, thats the only difference, its nothing about suppressing my feelings for god or anything like that.

As for what would he gain by lying, again- ask someone in a different religion the same question. What would god gain in lying to them and making them deliberately following the wrong religion? You have to understand that other religions gods are just as powerful and meaningful and real to them as yours is to you.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Have you not listened to a word ive said? I dont hate god! I can't hate something I don't believe to exist!

Thanks for admitting you actually DO believe in God.

You have to understand that other religions gods are just as powerful and meaningful and real to them as yours is to you.

I understand they choose to worship demons instead of Jesus. That will send them to hell.

[Hydros]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Thanks for admitting you actually DO believe in God.

Sorry am I missing something here, how do you come to the conclusion of me believing in a god from me saying '! I can't hate something I don't believe to exist!'

Do you not think that if I believed in god, then I would be PRO religion? Why would I deliberately try to be sent to hell?

I understand they choose to worship demons instead of Jesus. That will send them to hell.

They also understand why you choose to worship demons instead of Allah/Vishnu/Ginesh/Mythra etc that will also send you to hell as you didn't believe as they did. Do you see what im getting at here!! They feel the same way, as they THINK the same way as you, appart from a few name changed and stories!!

What makes yours more believable??

[Hydros]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Sorry, we are getting off topic here, back to my question:


I don't understand what your issue with a day being a rotation of the earth. A month being a full circuit of the moon around the earth and a year being a whole circuit of the earth around the sun!

Why is that such a hard concept to grasp? And why refute all the proven science?

[Meek and Humble]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Sorry am I missing something here, how do you come to the conclusion of me believing in a god from me saying '! I can't hate something I don't believe to exist!'

Do you not think that if I believed in god, then I would be PRO religion? Why would I deliberately try to be sent to hell?

Because you are full of rebellious pride and would rather be punished than worship God.

They also understand why you choose to worship demons instead of Allah/Vishnu/Ginesh/Mythra etc that will also send you to hell as you didn't believe as they did.

No, not at all. Muslims (Allah worshipers) believe that Christians won't go to hell, they just will enter a lower part of heaven.

Hindus (Vishnu and Ginesh worshipers) believe in reincarnation.

Greek pagans (Mythra worshipers) believe all people, good and evil, descend to Hades, land of the dead.

So I'm not worried.

[whitegirl]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Okay, I'm only replying to the very first post. You said and swore up and down in another post that math is evil.
And then you use math like a Mathematician to prove this crazy theory.

[DoesItReallyMatter]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Pastor Billy-Reuben, I have spent alot of time reading through this thread as you have requested on anyone who wished to respond to your views and "proof" about the sun, its size and its distance from the Earth. I have a few queries for you which I would be interested in hearing your answers if you wouldnt mind, I also would like straight logical answers and not dismiss me with "because the bible says so".

During one of your explanations previously in this thread you directed a poster to a site and asked them to look down the grid to where it indicated the colour of light waves etc. in order to prove to them that the information you provided was correct. On the site that you directed, there were numerous other pages and explanations for the rest of the cosmos including the Earth rotating around the sun. My 1st question is this, how do you explain believing some parts of that site and using that site to back up your "proof" while refuting others? logically, how can you determine which information is correct to use and which isnt. bare in mind you were trying to prove using science about information from the bible, not use the information in the bible to prove your point.

my 2nd question is this; Later in the thread you posted a picture and a link to a website about the belief that the earth is flat - www.theflatearthsociety.org - so clearly you believe what this site proclaims and stand by the "proof" it puts forward for the arguement you were making. Are you aware that this site has claimed to have worked out the distance for the sun to the Earth which is different to the answer you came up with? and if so, are you correct or would their calculations be considered correct?

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Distance+to+the+Sun

According the site and to yourself, you are both true believers of god and Jesus... according to the site and to yourself you are both using scientific means to prove you are both right.... and according to you, this site holds the same beliefs as you. Yet you both have different answers to the same question.

How can you expect anyone to believe your "truth" when clearly even your own followers cant decide what that is?

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

You prat the sun doesn't go around the earth in 24 hours the earth goes around the sun every 365 and a quarter days. The earth SPINS a full rotation on its axis every 24 hours.

Read Joshua 10:12. Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.

13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. [Is] not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

Historical fact!


The Sun stood still just like the Earth does, so the sun must rotate around the Earth! Just read the scripture, there is the proof.


If you seriously have been fooled into believing the Earth spins then for the Sun to have appeared to have stopped the Earth would have stopped. The seas would have flooded the land and everyone would have smashed into walls. Can you please show me the evidence of this happening??

[DoesItReallyMatter]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Read Joshua 10:12. Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.

13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. [Is] not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

Historical fact!


The Sun stood still just like the Earth does, so the sun must rotate around the Earth! Just read the scripture, there is the proof.


If you seriously have been fooled into believing the Earth spins then for the Sun to have appeared to have stopped the Earth would have stopped. The seas would have flooded the land and everyone would have smashed into walls. Can you please show me the evidence of this happening??

According to your fellow believer, Ahimaaz Smith, the Earth does spin but on a different axis:

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=7642&page=17

any chance you can make up your minds on what is the "truth" and what your putting together to argue against reason?
if even the most devout of followers cannot unitedly interpret the "word of god", how do you expect anyone else to even believe you?

[Cursed]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

According to your fellow believer, Ahimaaz Smith, the Earth does spin but on a different axis:

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=7642&page=17

any chance you can make up your minds on what is the "truth" and what your putting together to argue against reason?
if even the most devout of followers cannot unitedly interpret the "word of god", how do you expect anyone else to even believe you?

We have made up our minds, heathen!

The TRUTH is as written in the 1611 King James Bible.

You should read it and save your soul!

[DoesItReallyMatter]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

We have made up our minds, heathen!

The TRUTH is as written in the 1611 King James Bible.

You should read it and save your soul!

Then which is it...? does the Earth spin on an axis or not? which of you is correct??