[Cursed]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

@Cursed

If you are dammed to hell for no other reason than the actions of something your couldn't control. why do you have faith in a god the seeks to punish you for not doing anything wrong.

Because I fear Him, that's why! I am so afraid of His wrath, I have no choice but to serve Him, or He will punish me forever!

Sanctify the LORD of hosts himself; and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread.~Isaiah 8:13

You may be a "bastard" that's not your fault you had no control over that situation. So you are being punished for being born. I would understand if you said my father and mother will be punished because they were consulting adults when your conception happened but for you to be punished because you were born is a wild theory in my eyes.

It's not a theory, it's the WORD of GOD!

A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.~Deuteronomy 23:2

Please don't disagree with GOD, He hates that and may kill you or your family or even your whole town or country to teach you a lesson! He is wrathful, watch your tongue, watch what you think!

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;~Romans 1:18

How anyone could look upon this earth and NOT believe in a wrathful GOD of righteous fury is beyond me. It's plain as day.

[Thomas Hannah]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Because I fear Him, that's why! I am so afraid of His wrath, I have no choice but to serve Him, or He will punish me forever!

Sanctify the LORD of hosts himself; and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread.~Isaiah 8:13



It's not a theory, it's the WORD of GOD!

A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.~Deuteronomy 23:2

Please don't disagree with GOD, He hates that and may kill you or your family or even your whole town or country to teach you a lesson! He is wrathful, watch your tongue, watch what you think!

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;~Romans 1:18

How anyone could look upon this earth and NOT believe in a wrathful GOD of righteous fury is beyond me. It's plain as day.

I am sorry if you take offence to this it is not my intention. I would just like to state that it is theory, as is science mostly theory. The reason it is theory is because no one has died as a bastard and came back alive to tell us the result. It cant be proved so unfortunately and as hard as it will be for you to accept it is a theory. Everything is a theory until proven. Unless you know of someone who has died and came back to tell you the results of that it is a theory. Just like evolution cant be proved because no one can die and come back and say btw you were wrong there is a God so evolution is wrong. I dont expect you to believe me but it is theory.

Onto the part about you being scared of gods wrath. according to your scripture you ARE dammed there is nothing you can do to repair that if what your scripture says is true. So I ask again knowing in full that you are going to hell, why bother trying to please your God. This is not me having a crack at you I am just interested.

If God wishes me dead he has only to ask and I will do so. I have been disagreeing with scriptures of Gods for about 8 years and had nothing but joy in my life. So unless the Gods I have been disagreeing with are in fact false Gods then God does not have a problem with debating him otherwise I would have been stuck down by now.

I also have another question. Lucifer being older than the human race and being cast down before we had a chance to assemble holy texts. How do you not know that all the religions were not started by him as way of enslaving the human race to a certain law he found to be funny seeing as the reason he was cast out of Hevan was because of his hatred of humans.

Kind regards,

Thomas Hannah

[Thomas Hannah]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

@Cursed

There is a reason they call it "Having Faith" that reason is because it cant be proven thus it is a theory.

I forgot to add that to my last post so I thought I would just make a new comment.

Kind regards,

Thomas Hannah

[david gabb]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Back to the original question of the sun, maybe the original point has already been disproven in the hundred or so pages that this discussion has extended but i believe it needs reiteration as the fundamental lack of scientific knowledge displayed on this page is quite frankly disturbing. The main error in the calculation arises from the fact that the sun is not actually a yellow body. It radiation profile when viewed from outside the distorting effect of our own atmosphere is actually that of a white body. This means it is so hot that it emits radiowaves, microwaves, infrared rays and the entire visible spectrum (giving the colour white) it even emits UV and probably xrays and gamma rays. In short it is a lot hotter than a coal fire which can glow yellow and even blue given enough oxygen.
The second flaw in the initial argument was assuming that the space between us and the sun has the same permitivity as our upper atmosphere, when in fact space is a vacuum, which doesn't absorb heat at anywhere near the rate that our atmosphere does.
As to the argument that the earth is flat, can you explain to me the origin of the horizon?
I know you will all probably get back to me with inane arguments about how i have never been to space and how do i know it is a vacuum or how do i know the radiation spectrum of the sun. Well the great thing about this is that we arent just taking the words of scientists as gospel. If I (or you) so wanted we could go out and perform experiments that would prove the things i have just said to be true. The same cannot be said for your beloved king james bible, and I am not the kind of man to take an outdated book at its word. What else do we still believe in from that era? witches (i wouldnt actually be surprised if some of you do), the medical procedures from back then?
please, before trying to disprove scientific knowledge that man has struggled for years to prove, go out and do some experiments. Otherwise you are no better than the persecutioners of gallileo, or the people that burned thousands of innocent witches in the name of the "good god"

[Thomas Hannah]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Well done Chris Harper. You got me.

I am totally cut up now. Everything i have learned has been a lie. Please help me I am totally lost. My world has been brought down. How can I make amens with the lord and saviour Jesus Christ.

I suppose I must go and burn in hell for my heathenish lies. Maybe I can redeem myself on here.

Long live the Lord.

Kind regards,

Thomas Hannah

[david gabb]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

i too admit defeat. I have been peddling these school taught lies for too many years now with no real evidence to back them up. I surrender to your love jesus. I hope it is not too late for me.

[david gabb]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

it isn't actually the sun, it is actually a candle no more than three feet from my eyes. how could i have been so blind.

[Thomas Hannah]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

it isn't actually the sun, it is actually a candle no more than three feet from my eyes. how could i have been so blind.

Amen Brother. United we stand strong.

I have told my wife that she must be an obedient loving wife and not talk back to me seeing as we have converted to God. I suggest you do the same. I am glad we have been able to see the light of God.

Praise Jesus!!

Kind regards,

Thomas Hannah

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

As to the argument that the earth is flat, can you explain to me the origin of the horizon?

I assume you have heard of gravitational lensing of light? Obviously the earth has to be flat. If it was round gravitational lensing would cause the sun's light to bend around the earth and it will be day light all the time.

[Honeydew]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

AMEN BROTHER!!!







There must be a way for these guys to break this shackle of religion and faith and blind stupidity. I don't believe for one minute that it can't be done, I just don't quite know how.

It may be something that only the person themselves can come to realize.

and trust me... if that day happens to you, you will finally understand what it means to be free.

Just so you know Hydros, there are normal Christians out there, like me. I agree that what these guys are saying is complete gash.

@ James Hutchins
What better things does God have to do than show off? HE CREATED PHYSICS! Everything works with brilliant precision because of Him, he doesn't need to keep 'stoking the sun with coal' to keep it going, cos he's made it a neuclear reactor that lasts billions of years!
And really about your remark about me being bigotted - you've got the metaphorical glass house here, and you're definatley throwning stones.

Really can't figure out if this website is real or is it taking the mick.

[Honeydew]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

I assume you have heard of gravitational lensing of light? Obviously the earth has to be flat. If it was round gravitational lensing would cause the sun's light to bend around the earth and it will be day light all the time.

No, the earth isn't big enough for this to happen. Light only bends slightly around the sun. How would it bend around a sphere that's about 1 billion times smaller?

[Cursed]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

No, the earth isn't big enough for this to happen. Light only bends slightly around the sun. How would it bend around a sphere that's about 1 billion times smaller?

Because it doesn't bend around a sphere 1 billion times smaller, that's why!

You proved our point, thank you Ms. Honeydew!

[True Disciple]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Just so you know Hydros, there are normal Christians out there, like me. I agree that what these guys are saying is complete gash.

Obviously, you aren't a True Christian™. If the sun was far away, why would it revolve around the earth? That wouldn't make any sense!

Clearly, a True Christian™ cannot possibly believe in heliocentrism, the vulgar heresy concocted by Copernicus, Galilei and promoted by other mockers of the True Word™ of God, the Bible, which unambiguously states:

Joshua 10:12-13:
Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.
And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

God sets the sun still, meaning that the sun revolves around the earth, which cannot be moved:

Psalm 104:5:
Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.

And you call yourself a Christian? Don't be ridiculous!

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

No, the earth isn't big enough for this to happen. Light only bends slightly around the sun. How would it bend around a sphere that's about 1 billion times smaller?

Yes, light bends slightly around the sun that has a diameter of 32 miles. If the Earth was a sphere it would easily have enough Intelligent Pulling to bend light all the way around it. However as the Earth is flat I just can't see your point you are trying to make.

Jack.

[Honeydew]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Ms Honeydew? Why do I have to be a woman?
It's fairly common knowledge that Galileo was a Christian, only jailed by the Catholic Church because they dissagreed with him.
I am definately not a "true christian". But a Christian - sinner saved by grace.